VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 FULL] [Eva Kiss]

[SerHawkes]

Did EK ever mentioned how many chapters she has planned beforehand? Did EK even planned out ahead? I dont think so anymore.

Originally- 20+ chapters possible.
Semi recently- 16 chapters. (Then backlash happened)
Now- 20+ chapters again, patent pending.

 

[Firaxius]

I kinda struggle a bit with the game lately.

Cause i cant really picture anymore where this thing is heading.

There are so many different paths, characters and things going on. EK cant even continue the plots each update, not even half of them... like this, the game needs to get at least 30 chapters or something like that... with maybe 2 chapters a year (at best) the whole game needs another 15 years until its finished yeah no, dont think so...

Did EK ever mentioned how many chapters she has planned beforehand? Did EK even planned out ahead? I dont think so anymore.

I like the game, but i really cant see the "light at the end of the tunnle", at chapter 8/9 you can start a "serious" relationship with either Lena/Ian or Holly/ian and i thaught "ok, the end is not that far anymore, maybe 4-5 chapters to go and then 1 or 2 more chapters for the finish-line" But now it seems like the game is just starting.

The thing with such complex games is... at some point its not possible anymore to wrap everything up to get it complete in a satisfying way. And to me it feels like we are past that point... EK needs to cut things out instead of adding more. Hopefully EK has most of the game planned out, but honestly? It doesnt feels like it anymore... more like EK winged everything and thats the reason why every chapter adds more to it without continuing existing plots. Hopefully iam wrong about it... but with each update my doubts became bigger and bigger.

From what I understand EK tried to make a game with hardships, if you want to be succesfull then you have to be nasty, if you want to take the hard path then you will have to overcome being poor and find other ways. Its a bit a dark story, but eventualy you can get through it. In long line the game is liniar all the events will happen, no matter in what relation you are, it just small derive paths like Alison will go for Jeremy, Cindy for Axel and such if you neglect them as Ian, while Lena has options with Seymour, Robert, her ex shitty Axel, Mike, Jeremy and many other guys. Just play how you like it, if want to have both faithfull then keep it that way, if want to see all sex scenes then play a few times and don't be faithfull.

 

[Hahn1900]

From what I understand EK tried to make a game with hardships, if you want to be succesfull then you have to be nasty, if you want to take the hard path then you will have to overcome being poor and find other ways. Its a bit a dark story, but eventualy you can get through it. In long line the game is liniar all the events will happen, no matter in what relation you are, it just small derive paths like Alison will go for Jeremy, Cindy for Axel and such if you neglect them as Ian, while Lena has options with Seymour, Robert, her ex shitty Axel, Mike, Jeremy and many other guys. Just play how you like it, if want to have both faithfull then keep it that way, if want to see all sex scenes then play a few times and don't be faithfull.

I dont think you got my message and why i struggle with the game... cause what you mentioned here isnt my point in any way...

But i admit, my phrasing is not that good, and english is not my native language. So its kinda difficult to point out what exactly i mean, but yeah... you are far off the topic i was going for, no offense, probably my fault, cause of bad writing/phrasing i guess.

 

[Firaxius]

Not correct.

A little later they talk that out and can be together again. "Just the kiss" is not enough for a permanent breakup, its only a breakup for one chapter (or was it two chapters?)

There are some more decisions like that where Lena and Ian kinda "break up" but are getting together again if "you" want and made some other correct choices. They dont throw the relationship away that easily if you were serious most the time with it.

Thats something that is really awesome about ORS... the "status quo" changes a lot. Relationships of any kind arent stable the whole time, they struggle, have up and lows, and ORS managed it to show those struggles in a good way. The kiss with Holly is one of those obstacles, but its not an ultimate breaking point. Of course... hit to many "bumps in the road" and thats it... but just the one kiss isnt serious enough at that point.

I didn't knew that, I told her and she told him she sounded like any break up at that moment, so yea I rolled immediatly back to an older save as I didn't wanted to be broken up with her.

 

[Hahn1900]

I didn't knew that, I told her and she told him she sounded like any break up at that moment, so yea I rolled immediatly back to an older save as I didn't wanted to be broken up with her.

yeah a little later there are similar scenes. Like when you say as Ian that you dont like that Lena is sharing herself with other guys via stalkafap... her reaction is pretty harsh, even way more harsh than the "Holly Kiss" incident... but it can be patched up again. Those scenes are not that often, but there are some of them (i think i saw about 3 of those scenes already)... you have to make some more wrong turns for a permanent breakup, even though sometimes it seems like its "done for"... the realtionship between LEna and Ian isnt very stable... it takes time... so about chapter 12 they kinda found "each other" for real i think, even with some obstacles here and there (my ian kissed Holly too, and isnt fond of stalkafap, but yet they are deeply in love now) if you didnt go a cheating route that is.

Its never a "smooth sailing" in a relationship... EK managed to get that good into the game. Not for every relationship, but for Lena/Ian, or Ian/Cindy for example.

 

[Leongen43]

I didn't knew that, I told her and she told him she sounded like any break up at that moment, so yea I rolled immediatly back to an older save as I didn't wanted to be broken up with her.

I didn't know either, always to be with Holly I try to have zero closeness with Lena to avoid conflicts between them and I can have a relationship with Holly, then I might try

 

[ffive]

As for being the most interesting character... idk, she strikes me as Ashley 2.0.

So what you're saying is, Cindy is the real protagonist of the story.

 

[Leongen43]

So what you're saying is, Cindy is the real protagonist of the story.:sneaks:

You don't get the feeling that Cindy sometimes acts as if she were Lena's antagonist because of that level of rejection that grows in the story, especially if you choose for Ian to have sex with both of them.

 

[2016er]

I am a Cindy fan, I believe she is the most interesting character in the game. She is much more appealing than any other character and I really wanted to see her, at least as one of the MCs. I think she is the most real one among them and her struggles make her the deepest character in the game but I don't see any reasonable way her relationship would work with Ian. Every relation has power dynamic within and in the love path, Ian has zero power in the relationship. He has to sacrifice too much also. He will lose Wade and Perry as a friend, has to miss to have deeper relationship either as a friend or a lover of Holly, he will probably lose Emma and most likely lose Alison too. He has to give up Lena and even if he drags it has to break up with Cherry eventually. He has to jeopardise his dream to become an author too because he cannot go to book fair. I think he will probably miss any chance to get closer to Ivy, because looks like even though she try to not show it she finds loyalty important. What he gets in return, becoming second choice at best. He always has to agree with her if not their relationship gets huge hit. Also she is ready to switch other options. She holds Ian as a safety net. Also Ian cannot give the glamorous life she is wanting and always has to keep up at his best. Relationships always have ups and downs, even if Ian overcomes everything Cindy throws at him when he eventually stumbles she won't hesitate to seek for better options. I noticed Ian can collect relationship points with Cindy and I can see dev gonna use that for Cindy's decision between Axel and Ian but even that should be huge red flag for Ian. Cindy's options are reciprocate Ian's feeling whom sacrificing everything he has or becoming a play thing of Axel for a while. All in all, I think Ian should stay clear of Cindy but I'll probably dedicate one maybe more saves for Cindy path because I find her journey highly interesting.

That's why I canonically not in "love" path with Cindy, just screwing her, coercing her to cheat on Wade.
What I want with Cindy is to Procreate, I want her genes in my bloodline,
1)if she gets prego with my(Ian) seed and could pass it off as Wade's, then it's a good ending for me.
2) Other good ending is her becoming a single mom with me just being baby daddy, nothing else.

 

[Firaxius]

yeah a little later there are similar scenes. Like when you say as Ian that you dont like that Lena is sharing herself with other guys via stalkafap... her reaction is pretty harsh, even way more harsh than the "Holly Kiss" incident... but it can be patched up again. Those scenes are not that often, but there are some of them (i think i saw about 3 of those scenes already)... you have to make some more wrong turns for a permanent breakup, even though sometimes it seems like its "done for"... the realtionship between LEna and Ian isnt very stable... it takes time... so about chapter 12 they kinda found "each other" for real i think, even with some obstacles here and there (my ian kissed Holly too, and isnt fond of stalkafap, but yet they are deeply in love now) if you didnt go a cheating route that is.

Its never a "smooth sailing" in a relationship... EK managed to get that good into the game. Not for every relationship, but for Lena/Ian, or Ian/Cindy for example.

Is there a way also that Ian accept her more naughty stalkfap stuff? Because personaly I would never be jealous if my girl did that, least more acceptable then that she would fuck around with other guys, showing her body and being naughty, doesn't bother me in fact I would even help her with some sex scenes lol.

 

[Firaxius]

That's why I canonically not in "love" path with Cindy, just screwing her, coercing her to cheat on Wade.
What I want with Cindy is to Procreate, I want her genes in my bloodline,
1)if she gets prego with my(Ian) seed and could pass it off as Wade's, then it's a good ending for me.
2) Other good ending is her becoming a single mom with me just being baby daddy, nothing else.

If you want such scene play "Simple days", there mc get helped by his best friend and his gf to get him a girl and few days later he impregnate his best friend gf along side many other girls.

 

[ffive]

Is there a way also that Ian accept her more naughty stalkfap stuff?

Only EK really knows at this point. It seems that in the most recent update Ian can potentially discover the new stuff Lena has been making (private requests etc) and get bothered by it, but any discussion between Ian and Lena regarding this, and how it's resolved, remains to be seen.

(if you're asking about the first instance of Ian discovering Lena's Stalkfap then yes, Ian can be accepting of it and help Lena take some pictures for her subscribers)

 

[GokutheG]

Is there a way also that Ian accept her more naughty stalkfap stuff? Because personaly I would never be jealous if my girl did that, least more acceptable then that she would fuck around with other guys, showing her body and being naughty, doesn't bother me in fact I would even help her with some sex scenes lol.

I believe the conversation path can go that Ian is either upset over it, he can be uncomfortable or he can say it turns him on. In the case of the last 2 i believe that leads to them filming content together.

 

[Leongen43]

That's why I canonically not in "love" path with Cindy, just screwing her, coercing her to cheat on Wade.
What I want with Cindy is to Procreate, I want her genes in my bloodline,
1)if she gets prego with my(Ian) seed and could pass it off as Wade's, then it's a good ending for me.
2) Other good ending is her becoming a single mom with me just being baby daddy, nothing else.

I would like Cindy to break up with Wade where Ian gets her pregnant and she starts a relationship with Axel where he believes that the child Cindy is expecting is his, they believe that Ian can get her pregnant several more times so that they can be one big happy family and Would that be a happy ending too?

 

[Leongen43]

Is there a way also that Ian accept her more naughty stalkfap stuff? Because personaly I would never be jealous if my girl did that, least more acceptable then that she would fuck around with other guys, showing her body and being naughty, doesn't bother me in fact I would even help her with some sex scenes lol.

So what type of relationship would you like for them: a swinger relationship, an open relationship, Ian be a Alpha-cuck or beta-cuck?
Personally, I would like Ian and Lena to have a swinger relationship with a high level of exhibitionism where they like to try others to look at them and desire them to have sex.

 

[Swordsman83]

Ian X Ivy when ?

 

[varpep]

Is Nat going to a future love interest or was she cut entirely? Those freckles drive me crazy

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Never go Cinders path. Logic is simple. She's a taken woman. Better to try mend their relationship and see how Cuntxel fucks things over and see if Cinders truly is faithful to our best bro Wade or will she be a tempted stupid cunt that she probably is.

Best to just endure the 4+ year blue balling for Ian-Ivy. Or stick your dick in Emma.

 

[2016er]

Ian X Ivy when ?

No pre marital sex for Ivy it seems

 

[2016er]

I would like Cindy to break up with Wade where Ian gets her pregnant and she starts a relationship with Axel where he believes that the child Cindy is expecting is his, they believe that Ian can get her pregnant several more times so that they can be one big happy family and Would that be a happy ending too?

Plot twist, onec Cindy disclose to Axel " babe, you are going to be a daddy, I am pregnant", he kicked her out.

Reason? Axel knew that he fires blank and can't naturally gets girl pregnant