Firaxius

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It is, essentially, gentrification that many real cities go through -- developers are buying out houses in poor districts, ramp up rents to force out old tenants, do some renovations and then rent these properties to rich corpo rats. Since there's far less houses than people, it doesn't really matter that the rich upper class is relatively limited in numbers, it leads to high profits and fucked up situation for everyone who can't afford it.
But eventualy those premises will all end up empty and not rented, because when you renovate the place and put all top notch quality in them, the rent will automatic also be insane to pay, and there aren't just not that many rich people, so in the long run it is a failure. I studied economics and basicly I disagree with a lot in it, like the index adjustments are in a long run becoming a failure too, how many countries already had to freeze the index increases to avoid disaster. If the rich keep increasing prices in the end common folks and poor folks just wont buy anymore and then the rich will suffer.
 

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I never understood Seymour, he literaly buys every single house, apartment, workplaces up, then he turns up all the rent to impossible to pay for everyone on top all the workplaces he own you have to work at low rate payments, that somehow feels to me a disaster for him, because noone would be able to live in his town Baluart and he should then name the town Failurart.
For me, Seymour is a rich and sophisticated person who, being practically the owner of the city, still needs to satisfy his appetite for control and domination in different ways and that is where Lena comes in. How far he goes will depend on the options we are given. And if we use her during the story, it depends on how far she goes with Lena, she could lose the feelings she has for Ian and start having feelings for Seymour, could it be? :unsure: :unsure:
 

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But eventualy those premises will all end up empty and not rented, because when you renovate the place and put all top notch quality in them, the rent will automatic also be insane to pay
The rent won't be insane to pay -- it will be affordable for people with good, regular jobs, and not people like Lena or Emma who are working partially and hold low-end jobs like waitressing. It's also not going to be all top notch quality, just reasonable, mid level stuff.

If the rich keep increasing prices in the end common folks and poor folks just wont buy anymore and then the rich will suffer.
That's true, but the catch here is the rich don't really do things with long-term goal in mind. The capitalist model is based on maximizing short-term [increase of] profits due to fixation with the share value, which is tied to it.

(and even if things do eventually reach such point, that's of little concern for people with literal billions in the bank. They've got theirs, and fuck everyone else)
 
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The rent won't be insane to pay -- it will be affordable for people with good, regular jobs, and not people like Lena or Emma who are working partially and hold low-end jobs like waitressing. It's also not going to be all top notch quality, just reasonable, mid level stuff.
Well I already see it here in Belgium rents already becoming in range you pay a whole earning on it, so you are forced to live with a roommate or just have a partner that earns as much to survive. It just becoming a problem in real too, yesterday I went buying some stuff for xmas and saw several people who barely could pay their stuff, I give food to food sharity and the last 2 years more and more people come for food there, it becoming a real problem.
 

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Well I already see it here in Belgium rents already becoming in range you pay a whole earning on it, so you are forced to live with a roommate or just have a partner that earns as much to survive. It just becoming a problem in real too, yesterday I went buying some stuff for xmas and saw several people who barely could pay their stuff, I give food to food sharity and the last 2 years more and more people come for food there, it becoming a real problem.
Oh, it absolutely is, and it has been a problem from the very beginning. It's just reaching more people now, including the ones who didn't care before because it didn't affect them (yet).

But like i said, it's not really a problem from those who have already made mint on it and keep making it. Given the relative shortage the property market is still one where demand far exceeds the supply. And even if at some point things start reversing it's not like the millions accumulated already will disappear due to it.
 

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Oh, it absolutely is, and it has been a problem from the very beginning. It's just reaching more people now, including the ones who didn't care before because it didn't affect them (yet).

But like i said, it's not really a problem from those who have already made mint on it and keep making it. Given the relative shortage the property market is still one where demand far exceeds the supply. And even if at some point things start reversing it's not like the millions accumulated already will disappear due to it.
I just compare Seymour to another rich guy I knew here, he did practicaly the same as Seymour, but geuss where he is now?

Yes he is poor and ruined, because another rich guy fucked him over and does things right with his riches, ok Seymour can feel the power and is addicted to it, but eventualy it a recipe for disaster and there always be other rich people fucking them over.
 
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I just compare Seymour to another rich guy I knew here, he did practicaly the same as Seymour, but geuss where he is now?

Yes he is poor and ruined, because another rich guy fucked him over and does things right with his riches, ok Seymour can feel the power and is addicted to it, but eventualy it a recipe for disaster and there always be other rich people fucking them over.
I'd guess the guy you know is more of the ruined bum Lena encounters, and Seymour is the guy who has fucked him over.
 

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I'd guess the guy you know is more of the ruined bum Lena encounters, and Seymour is the guy who has fucked him over.
Not really he is still well off, but lost a lot of fortune though, trying rip of an American company and had some foots in soccer teams but it all bit him in his rare and he had to pay a lot damage, that Bum was only a employee from Seymour that Seymour fucked over. But yea being rich and feeling all powerfull is a bad way to go, you should know there are sleeping rich people who controle the world and when those kind like Seymour become a thorn in their back they just make sure Seymour would lose everything, that happens in real when some rich people abuse to much of their power.

One of those sleeping rich people fortune been estimated if giver everyone on the world a piece of it we would all had 10 mil $ on our bank account, doubt Seymour is that Rich, because those kind of rich people keep them behind the scenes and not come out they have that much and is only know on certain channels.
 

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I would only amend that to say Holly belongs to Lena....and by extension....to Seymour....eventually.
Merry Christmas and I hope you are having a happy time with your loved ones. :love:
It seems that in 2024 we are going to be rivals for Holly's heart and body, unless we reach an agreement where Seymour trained Holly in bdsm and the safe word is chosen by Ian, which would be: EsgibtkeinsicheresWort :unsure::ROFLMAO::LOL:
 

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It is, essentially, gentrification that many real cities go through -- developers are buying out houses in poor districts, ramp up rents to force out old tenants, do some renovations and then rent these properties to rich corpo rats. Since there's far less houses than people, it doesn't really matter that the rich upper class is relatively limited in numbers, it leads to high profits and fucked up situation for everyone who can't afford it.
Happens in more than just poor districts now. Corporations - some foreign, some domestic - buy up entire streets, entire blocks even, of brand new housing developments and rent - not sell - them out at exorbitant rates, further inorganically raising the price of real estate in the few properties left for purchase & basically eliminating the middle class or any notion of ever owning property other than a shitty condo with monthly HOA fees. It's criminal, though unfortunately legal, in most if not all western countries. Ramped up tremendously in 2009 after the 08 housing crisis, with full permission of our elected leaders. I'm for temporarily bringing back cannibalism and eating all these motherfuckers. They (or their help) shop at Wholefoods and only eat organic so you know it's high quality meat.
 
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Plot twist, onec Cindy disclose to Axel " babe, you are going to be a daddy, I am pregnant", he kicked her out.

Reason? Axel knew that he fires blank and can't naturally gets girl pregnant
I wouldn't be surprised that Axel shoots blank, being always so aggresive and acting 100% of the day as a loser douch, his body can't produce healthy proteins.
He doesn't shoot blanks. He just wants to impregnate Lena. But only when he's absolutely certain that she's his once again. Cindy's just a trophy for him to win. "A pussy for him to crush" as Jeremy would say. I cringed as I wrote that last part.

I never understood Seymour, he literaly buys every single house, apartment, workplaces up, then he turns up all the rent to impossible to pay for everyone on top all the workplaces he own you have to work at low rate payments, that somehow feels to me a disaster for him, because noone would be able to live in his town Baluart and he should then name the town Failurart.
Capitalist parasite profiting from the average Joe's misery. Nothing new here. He'll ruin anyone and everyone's life just because he thinks he can.
 
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Lola's approval is the most satisfying thing in this game for me and I just recently figured how to gain it. In all my prior playthroughs, I always went for Cindy but in this one I tried to help Wade out. It seems Lola could always sense my treacherous nature before but not this time. Lola>Cindy. Lola is best girl! She is so goddamn cute!
 

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Lola's approval is the most satisfying thing in this game for me and I just recently figured how to gain it. In all my prior playthroughs, I always went for Cindy but in this one I tried to help Wade out. It seems Lola could always sense my treacherous nature before but not this time. Lola>Cindy. Lola is best girl! She is so goddamn cute!
Super tight too.
 

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Lola's approval is the most satisfying thing in this game for me and I just recently figured how to gain it. In all my prior playthroughs, I always went for Cindy but in this one I tried to help Wade out. It seems Lola could always sense my treacherous nature before but not this time. Lola>Cindy. Lola is best girl! She is so goddamn cute!
I don't think it's specific to Cindy tho, If Ian is a cheater Lola is going to hate him.
Also she dislikes Lena for hooking up with Robert.
 

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i just speed run ORS from the beginning and it takes around 45 minutes+ to do it. That's way longer than i thought.
 

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I don't think it's specific to Cindy tho, If Ian is a cheater Lola is going to hate him.
Also she dislikes Lena for hooking up with Robert.
Yea Lola likes only a relation if it build on trust, Robert wants Lena only for the sex, even he propose to do something romantic, he always include, but we can also go directly to the main course, bet Ian she likes aslong Ian show signs of trust, like no cheating with other girls and such.
 

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Holly belongs to everyone,the public bicycle of Baluart.
Would be nice if Seymour taps that nerd ass.
I know Holly is bi-sexual, as she loves Ian and Lena, but I wonder what happens beyond closed doors with Minerva, after Ian gone over to Seymour to work, it felt somewhat weird when Minerva called Holly in private, which made me think what if Minerva always liked Holly because Holly gave her something naughty and made Minerva felt somewhat loved.
 
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