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Regarding Stalkfap, she automatically picks the photos she wants to post at one point, at least that's what happened to me. It's one thing to have X and Y picture, it's another to post them. But I guess that's the way Eva decided to pull off these scenes. Now I know what I can change and how in my next playthrough. Kind of the same thing with Seymour, there's moments when the game just takes your hand off it based on previous choices in a particular moment, once again, it's how Eva chose to go ahead with things. I was already surprised at the start with the amount of agency this game has when compared to others, so I was even more surprised when the game assumed things for you. It's fine tho, it's how it is built. Now that I have a larger understanding of how the game works, I'll do what I intend the most in the future.
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It's best when it's both, but I'm definitely an assman, haha.
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Using the butplug is another similar situation. You never get to pick if you want to explore things further or not. Also, you can't create a scenario in which Lena is more vanilla, she sees Ian as a potential long term partner so she refrains from showing a kinkier side until they are in a relationship. Sometimes girls do that, they don't want to put themself in a potential bad light. Oh, I barely met her and she already let's me sleep with her without a condom and I can also have her ass. She probably did this with a lot of guys. I will have my fun with her, but certainly she's not "wife material".
I have a play through where Ian was shy and Lena didn't push things in any way. They went on a few dates, they kissed, Ian got a bj from Lena when she visited his room and in ch7 (i think) they had sex for the first time ... without a condom. Another date and Lena goes: hey, do you want to try my ass.
Now imagine how this scenario would play out if each sex scene would be placed in a separate file. You could just pick to show the scene from ch 3 or 4, sometime in chapter 7. The art would fit the scene better and probably the text would too. Of course, you will have to hide some things that maybe were already discussed. But in the same time, you would work less when you write the scenes found in ch5,6,7. There is no need to think, what if this is their first time, let me write a few lines for that in order to cover that scenario.
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She'd dodge a bullet if the guy with that mentality leaves her. One controlling asshole with insecurities was enough, no more, so better test his reaction right away. A girl is allowed to be experienced in sex and to have preferences and kinks. If the dude can't handle it, he can find girls that like to act demure. Emma is saying right away that she loves anal. Would my Ian still date her seriously? Absolutely, because she's a good friend and is fun to be around, and it's a very good start for a healthy relationship. Does it matter if she did it with a lot of guys? As long as she's clean and is not cheating during relationship, nope.
Lena only needed the condoms because she wasn't on the pill. After Chapter 5 she started taking them, so there's no point for her to need condoms anymore. But you do have a point, Ian should still bring it up (if he doesn't) because he has no idea if she's on the pill or not.
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There still is a point, because a condom is not useful only to avoid a pregnancy. Until you get to know someone, if you value your health, you better use one. But let's say that by the time you get to chapter 7, Ian knows enough about Lena and Lena knows enough about Ian that it is not needed anymore. So I agree, Ian bringing it up just to make sure that there is no risk to have a child is enough.
Man, I need to be more careful with what words I use to describe something, because you picked up exactly what was the least important. Mr Prime mentioned how "the game just takes your hand off it based on previous choices in a particular moment". I just wanted to offer another example. The discussion was more about how many scenarios you can create using the game choices.
Probably I should have not written "fun" in the paragraph that you selected, but even so, there are multiple ways in which you can think about it.
Is this girl clean? I don't know her, I don't know with how many people she's been with. Maybe she thinks she's clean, but if she let's everyone sleep with her without a condom, is there a way to know if that is actually true? Does she value her health at all? Does she care that she could get pregnant? Does she use any form of birth control? Maybe she is pregnant already and wants to find a dad. Does sex means anything to her or is it just physical? Maybe this is not the kind of person that I want to spend my life with. This are thoughts that can cross someone mind and are not "insecurities". Using the big head, instead of the small one, is not a bad thing. Maybe he is the one that dodged a bullet.
Can a girl have kinks and enjoy sex with multiple partners? Sure she can. Is a man, that had only two long term relationships his entire life, an insecure asshole for not viewing a women that slept with 50+ men "wife material"? No he is not. They are not compatible and that's it.
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The thing is that Alison can be several things in game. She can be a deeply loyal girlfriend (some members here seem to totally forget that all(!) Jeremy content can be stopped well before it happens or is talked about) or a loyal friend with benefits. She can also be a slutty, experiment-happy girlfriend (if we want that and AStech gave an example of how to do it), wihich would not be cuckolding, but hotwife sharing. And she can be a slutty friend with benefits.
As among others BloodyMares mentioned, no matter the path we take with Alison, she has deep feelings for Ian and prefers if their relationship transforms towards full couple. If Ian shows interest in deepening their relationship, even the "slutty" Alison variant shelves Jeremy real quick (outside some possible fun romps on the way, but that depends how Ian and Alison decide together). Jeremy is not the one she wants for longer, but he is a nice lay.
Considering her former boyfriend was a rivet in bed, it is no surprise that Alison is curious to experiment with new things.
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That's true, but the only one who said something about physical abuses here is Canto AI™ and no one pays attention to what they writes and... Well, I better shut up before I say something unnecessary and break forum rules, but I think you get the point.
That Lena has a BDSM kink is obvious and is emphasized even in the rather vanilla scenes with Ian. Lena likes it better when Ian shows the dominant and assertive side.
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I would not be so black and white on their general compability. The bed is part of the equation, not everything. There is the old bonmot about "Good guys need bad girls", but beyond that there are several variants which could still lead to happy, compatible couples.
Yes, this game is awesome.
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that's the hypocrisy in the world ,if a man has sex with different partners everyone immediately thinks he is great,a woman does the same,she is immediately called a slut
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damm so proud I am the main cheracter in the new jeremy show directed by CoalPhelps Tarantino I am the star of the show
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Yes yes, a key that unlocks many doors is a master key, but a lock that can be opened with any key is a bad lock. Probably everyone heard this things at least once in their life. There are people that think this is true and some that don't. It's not a black and white thing, just like Turret said. And let's stop it here, because this is a never ending debate.
They dev is an amazing writer and I can’t wait for more.
I think the problem with the VN genre is it appeals to people who want to live a fantasy where they can enjoy idyllic romances in the safety of a harem full of women who look good but lack agency and personality. When I look back at the games I used to play back in 2003, we have come a long long long way. At least with western writers.
All those otaku types were ready to launch pitchfork mobs at any author who dared break the mould and make a non-virgin heroine. It was super controversial.
I think a woman who’s slept with a lot of guys before she started dating you isn’t a slut or whore or whatever. I think what matters more is taking a hard look at WHY she slept with that many people.
If she’s got ongoing issues where she needs sex to feel loved/validated and she has to constantly get it, then that’s a problem. Even if she doesn’t cheat on you she’ll be needy and if you’re more independently minded that’s gonna be an emotional drain.
See: Louise.
If she just fucked around because she liked sex and wanted to try it with different people I think that’s fine. Guys do it too. We can’t expect women to be chaste virgins while we want to go around having all kinds of experiences. We’re more alike with women than we think.
All that matters to me is if the girl who fucked 30+ partners is capable of being independent, kept clean so I don’t catch anything and isn’t reckless enough to randomly get pregnant and keep it when she isn’t ready.
A woman who has self respect, healthy boundaries and a solid set of ethics can fuck whoever she wants and I’d still be down for her.
I think the problem with the VN genre is it appeals to people who want to live a fantasy where they can enjoy idyllic romances in the safety of a harem full of women who look good but lack agency and personality. When I look back at the games I used to play back in 2003, we have come a long long long way. At least with western writers.
All those otaku types were ready to launch pitchfork mobs at any author who dared break the mould and make a non-virgin heroine. It was super controversial.
I think a woman who’s slept with a lot of guys before she started dating you isn’t a slut or whore or whatever. I think what matters more is taking a hard look at WHY she slept with that many people.
If she’s got ongoing issues where she needs sex to feel loved/validated and she has to constantly get it, then that’s a problem. Even if she doesn’t cheat on you she’ll be needy and if you’re more independently minded that’s gonna be an emotional drain.
See: Louise.
If she just fucked around because she liked sex and wanted to try it with different people I think that’s fine. Guys do it too. We can’t expect women to be chaste virgins while we want to go around having all kinds of experiences. We’re more alike with women than we think.
All that matters to me is if the girl who fucked 30+ partners is capable of being independent, kept clean so I don’t catch anything and isn’t reckless enough to randomly get pregnant and keep it when she isn’t ready.
A woman who has self respect, healthy boundaries and a solid set of ethics can fuck whoever she wants and I’d still be down for her.
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i completely agree with you here,everyone has their needs and past ,not everyone is like in some games waiting as the knight in white to the eternal virgin,that's not real life!!
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Valid concern for real life, but it looks like STDs are not a thing in ORS / GGGB, because it's referenced only as birth control, instantly rendered needless once the girl starts taking pills. At least Alison somewhat keeps things closer to reality due to her bad reaction to the pills. Sucks for her, but there are indeed girls with that problem in real life, and it's great that the game is representing that part of reality. Would it be cathartic if Jeremy got an STI? Yes. Would it suck for Lena who sleeps around indiscriminantly? Sure thing. But with such interconnected possible relationships, I don't even think STIs would be possible to track. Who had that originally? Did Jeremy get something? Will he spread it to Alison / Louise / Lena / Ivy, or will he get healed by the time Lena gets to have sex with him? If he gets Lena infected, she can spread the decease onto the whole game. And suddenly ORS turns into Plague Inc, where everyone dies in the end.