Badboll

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I don't get why some people are upset with Gillian's return. "Drama for drama's sake" Drama is the point. There are a lot of scenes here that progressed into sex quickly. Would you listen to someone complaining, "Porn for porn's sake"? Unlike other games, ORS actually has good character development and drama. Ian is already recovering, and depending on your choices, could be starting to get into a committed relationship. This will lead to better story arcs. Instead of your typical, "Heartbroken person lost trust but found the right person to love again" trope (more common with female protagonist finding the right man in romance stories), this could lead to more heartaches and send Ian spiralling back, or make proud proclamations of "I have moved on and I am happy" to the person who broke Ian's trust. This could also lead to wild plots like Ian's voyeurism that was explored with Allison or Lena's Stalkfap. Not having Gillian return would be a missed opportunity for the story, especially since this is an interactive fiction where you can choose decisions for characters, and not a novel or TV show.
I will say this though, I wish Gillian's return wasn't so early. There are a lot of subplots where their conflicts are increasing and becoming more tense. Having yet another major conflict introduced so quickly can be disorienting. I wish Ian's relationships were deeper and progressed further before Gillian returned. This way, the "will he or won't he go back" question is much harder to answer.
if people were not complaining about it I wouldn't even know it was happening, my save file has nothing with her in it. I assume you need to be playing a certain way for her to appear in the chapter 11 prologue?
I don't disagree that her return is unnecessary, but you raise a lot of good points.
This game really needs to move faster, and by faster I don't mean story wise or anything, the work on the game needs to be faster and we need to get a chapter monthly. Now that is probably not possible, but this game really takes a long time and there needs to be a whole lot more of it and I don't really want to wait 2-3 years, but I obviously will wait.
There is so much game here so much possibility and so many routes and so many different things that can and can't happen that should be able to happen. There just isn't enough of EvaKiss to create everything. Where is that cloning technology when you need it.
 
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Badboll

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I mean we all have multiple saves,right?
Saves where Ian and Lena fuck around,saves where they are pure to each other,etc.
oh I did start playing the game that way, but saves broke at some point during the development so I only have 1 or 2 different saves at this point.
I will play the game like that when it's done though.
 

Badboll

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Thats a hell of a pipe dream dude.
The reality is, you are going to get an update every 11 months at best.
I would appreciate if you didn't take 1 snippet of my comment and make it look like I am saying something that I am not.
Please finish reading a comment before replying.
 

LordofEntropy

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How did you get this talk? I cant find it in my playthroughs. Thanks in advance!
I don't remember all of the conditions of this save. You do have to be able to choose Ian to take the nudes photos of Lena. Then she basically masturbates in front of Ian, and then when the option comes up to either fuck him or deny him, do deny. After a couple other scenes, another Lena x Ian scene will come up. This time you can make Lena sit on Ian's face, very dommy mommy like, and starts talking about fucking other dicks and how he likes it, and tells him about Robert filling her up with cum. That sorta thing.

I guess the main things are that Lena is a ho, she's fucking Jeremy(also did threesome with Louise), Axel, Mike, and obviously is also banging Ian. I think other submissive things happen before then because there are some scenes where she's only giving him handjobs.
 
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Akkarin69

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I'm also not upset with Gillian's return. C'mon, she was introduced as the ex-girlfriend right at the beginning of the game, not only as a one sentence backstory note but even with pictures and options how to react to her memories/pictures back then. So it was pretty obvious from the get-go that she would show up along the road again.
 

saltynip

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The post title didnt mention alpha beta or final, is this the final maybe only version of the ch11 prologue?
 

Chuck_Bass

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The post title didnt mention alpha beta or final, is this the final maybe only version of the ch11 prologue?
It's available right now for $20 patrons so it's probably the alpha. Eva mentioned it's going to be released in similar fashion like the full chapter releases but faster because the update is tiny.
 

Tulrek

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It's available right now for $20 patrons so it's probably the alpha. Eva mentioned it's going to be released in similar fashion like the full chapter releases but faster because the update is tiny.
Yeah I jumped on it too early. They are still bugs in it. Should have wait the final release.
 

Samuel Hidayat

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Well, he was a creep from the start. Spying on Lena while she was "intimate" and jerking off to her pictures. Do you think Axel is jerking off to Cindy's pictures like that?
A creep whom Lena can turn to be a better person. My problem with Remastered Stan is Lena needs to be completely involved in his route to create the biggest impact. Back then, you can defend Stan from Louise's accusation just by being friendly with him. Now, you have to agree to be his model to do that. Being a good listener and a sympathetic friend aren't enough for some reason.
 
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