VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[BloodyMares]

Man that luxury boutique came out of seemingly no where. I wasn't expecting it during my first playthrough and when it was introduced thought I would have a bit more time to purchase something from there. Turns out... Nope. I'm just poor, unless you're on the Seymour route, or never send money to your parents (you monster)

Yup, Lena's budget is very unbalanced. After being fired from the restaurant there simply is not enough money available. She earns 2 Money from the Cafe (if you decided to help Molly and Ed) but has to spend 3 Money (+1 if you want to help your parents). Even with Stalkfap you still can't really buy much. I only had money to buy 1 outfit and 2 sex toys (dildo and collar). And that leaves you with 2 money which you need for rent. Lena really needs to look for a second gig ASAP especially if she's not doing stalkfap (or it has been unsuccessful) otherwise she'll just never be able to buy anything.

Meanwhile Ian not only could move up the ladder thanks to Seymour but also was reinstated full-time with Minerva (if he's still her intern). And he doesn't have much opportunities to spend money aside from the outfits.
Here's my balance both for Ian and Lena:

Ian: 6 (was delivering food and later reinstated by Minerva + had max allowance from dad) - bought 2 outfits and spent the weekend with Alison

Lena: 2 (helped save the cafe, does spicy stalkfap without custom content, was fired from the restaurant in Ch 3) - bought the collar and 2 outfits, no piercings, no tattoos. If my Lena didn't do Stalkfap I don't think she'd be able to afford to buy anything at all with all the money she sent to her parents.

 

[fatpussy123]

Yup, Lena's budget is very unbalanced. After being fired from the restaurant there simply is not enough money available. She earns 2 Money from the Cafe (if you decided to help Molly and Ed) but has to spend 3 Money (+1 if you want to help your parents). Even with Stalkfap you still can't really buy much. I only had money to buy 1 outfit and 2 sex toys (dildo and collar). And that leaves you with 2 money which you need for rent. Lena really needs to look for a second gig ASAP especially if she's not doing stalkfap (or it has been unsuccessful) otherwise she'll just never be able to buy anything.

Meanwhile Ian not only could move up the ladder thanks to Seymour but also was reinstated full-time with Minerva (if he's still her intern). And he doesn't have much opportunities to spend money aside from the outfits.
Here's my balance both for Ian and Lena:

Ian: 6 (was delivering food and later reinstated by Minerva + had max allowance from dad) - bought 2 outfits and spent the weekend with Alison

Lena: 2 (helped save the cafe, does spicy stalkfap without custom content, was fired from the restaurant in Ch 3) - bought the collar and 2 outfits, no piercings, no tattoos. If my Lena didn't do Stalkfap I don't think she'd be able to afford to buy anything at all with all the money she sent to her parents.

The I've been doing Lena's finances is as you've said, but also going to Seymour's photoshoot. At the chapter 9 special contract I add the extra clause and refuse the vibrator bit. You still get paid, but I wonder what consequences that might bring later.

 

[KingNtr++]

slowly update.... milky dev

 

[Flowing Thought]

Yup, Lena's budget is very unbalanced. After being fired from the restaurant there simply is not enough money available. She earns 2 Money from the Cafe (if you decided to help Molly and Ed) but has to spend 3 Money (+1 if you want to help your parents). Even with Stalkfap you still can't really buy much. I only had money to buy 1 outfit and 2 sex toys (dildo and collar). And that leaves you with 2 money which you need for rent. Lena really needs to look for a second gig ASAP especially if she's not doing stalkfap (or it has been unsuccessful) otherwise she'll just never be able to buy anything.

Meanwhile Ian not only could move up the ladder thanks to Seymour but also was reinstated full-time with Minerva (if he's still her intern). And he doesn't have much opportunities to spend money aside from the outfits.
Here's my balance both for Ian and Lena:

Ian: 6 (was delivering food and later reinstated by Minerva + had max allowance from dad) - bought 2 outfits and spent the weekend with Alison

Lena: 2 (helped save the cafe, does spicy stalkfap without custom content, was fired from the restaurant in Ch 3) - bought the collar and 2 outfits, no piercings, no tattoos. If my Lena didn't do Stalkfap I don't think she'd be able to afford to buy anything at all with all the money she sent to her parents.

I think this is good storytelling. Lena's finances if you side with Seymour and go into Stalkfap big time are amazing. She is overflowing with money. However if you try to walk the path of opposing Seymour he uses his influence to try to ruin you financially like cutting off your modeling gigs and your life drawing events and kicked out of the restaurant if you are still there by that point. The gameplay and the narrative are tied together into a cohesive whole.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Man that luxury boutique came out of seemingly no where. I wasn't expecting it during my first playthrough and when it was introduced thought I would have a bit more time to purchase something from there. Turns out... Nope. I'm just poor, unless you're on the Seymour route, or never send money to your parents (you monster)

Yup, Lena's budget is very unbalanced. After being fired from the restaurant there simply is not enough money available. She earns 2 Money from the Cafe (if you decided to help Molly and Ed) but has to spend 3 Money (+1 if you want to help your parents). Even with Stalkfap you still can't really buy much. I only had money to buy 1 outfit and 2 sex toys (dildo and collar). And that leaves you with 2 money which you need for rent. Lena really needs to look for a second gig ASAP especially if she's not doing stalkfap (or it has been unsuccessful) otherwise she'll just never be able to buy anything.

Meanwhile Ian not only could move up the ladder thanks to Seymour but also was reinstated full-time with Minerva (if he's still her intern). And he doesn't have much opportunities to spend money aside from the outfits.
Here's my balance both for Ian and Lena:

Ian: 6 (was delivering food and later reinstated by Minerva + had max allowance from dad) - bought 2 outfits and spent the weekend with Alison

Lena: 2 (helped save the cafe, does spicy stalkfap without custom content, was fired from the restaurant in Ch 3) - bought the collar and 2 outfits, no piercings, no tattoos. If my Lena didn't do Stalkfap I don't think she'd be able to afford to buy anything at all with all the money she sent to her parents.

I had an idea that if this is Eva's original plan. Lena is in a difficult financial situation due to sick parents, low-paid work. Plus, girls have needs and are very costly.
Eva pushes players down the path of corruption by offering a simple and quick solution to make money.
I have a "good Lena" route where Robert was fuck off, Stalkfap is not used in "total slut" mode. And of course Seymour was refused.
I didn't use cheat mode. I realized how difficult the financial situation is Lena, got a complete immersion.

 

[Simponia]

This game is Disco Elysium of adult visual novels.

 

[ArcherHades46]

So.. any news? Update dating?

 

[fatpussy123]

So.. any news? Update dating?

Yes the game will be updated.

 

[Simponia]

path of corruption

I wouldn't call Lena's choices a 'corruption' at all. In GGGB, yeah, there was a real corruption. Compared to mugging. selling drugs, Tyrone's pool party and Arthur's quest, Lena sleeping with manager to keep a job and making erotic photos for rich old man is nothing.

 

[mommysboiii]

I wouldn't call Lena's choices a 'corruption' at all. In GGGB, yeah, there was a real corruption. Compared to mugging. selling drugs, Tyrone's pool party and Arthur's quest, Lena sleeping with manager to keep a job and making erotic photos for rich old man is nothing.

dude this game is half way done eva cant give everything away so fast I am 100% sure there will be way more corruption and options even if in a relationship with cindy,alison,holly,lena,gillian... but this need build up I am pretty sure the things that you expect will probably happen between cheapter 15-20.

the game needs a fundation and proper build up first which happend until now GGGB was already done at this point because it was lees complex, less content.

 

[fatpussy123]

dude this game is half way done eva cant give everything away so fast I am 100% sure there will be way more corruption and options even if in a relationship with cindy,alison,holly,lena,gillian... but this need build up I am pretty sure the things that you expect will probably happen between cheapter 15-20.

the game needs a fundation and proper build up first which happend until now GGGB was already done at this point because it was lees complex, less content.

The cheating from Lena is absolutely corruption. Seymour's route can be corruption if Lena is dating Ian, otherwise it depends if you see being blackmailed as Lena being corrupt, maybe it depends if she begins to enjoy it. If she's into Seymour from the start maybe it's not corruption, but if she reluctantly agrees to it then I guess it counts. GGGB was all about corruption tho it literally says in the title.

 

[ArcherHades46]

Yes the game will be updated.

It's obvious, but when?

 

[dolfe67]

It's obvious, but when?

When it's ready obviously

 

[JohnnyKiss]

When it rains, it pours. Not only was one of the games I have been following for a long time been abandoned but now, ORS has had a 2 week long delay. There is also a game I have been following where the author hasn't made any progress in a month because they decided to add animations, a game where the author hasn't communicated with the players in 2 months and a game that is seemingly just getting endlessly rendered XD

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I wouldn't call Lena's choices a 'corruption' at all. In GGGB, yeah, there was a real corruption. Compared to mugging. selling drugs, Tyrone's pool party and Arthur's quest, Lena sleeping with manager to keep a job and making erotic photos for rich old man is nothing.

Lena is not as shy and prude as basic Ashley, but it's still corruption. At the moment it's a lighter version than GGGB, but we've only covered half of the game. Stalkfap, cheating, sex with everything that moves, become Axel's slave again or go under a perverted oligarch, as for me, this fits the definition of corruption.

 

[lipe2410]

When it rains, it pours. Not only was one of the games I have been following for a long time been abandoned but now, ORS has had a 2 week long delay. There is also a game I have been following where the author hasn't made any progress in a month because they decided to add animations, a game where the author hasn't communicated with the players in 2 months and a game that is seemingly just getting endlessly rendered XD

So, just another tuesday in porn game community

 

[Turret]

Lena is not as shy and prude as basic Ashley, but it's still corruption. At the moment it's a lighter version than GGGB, but we've only covered half of the game. Stalkfap, cheating, sex with everything that moves, become Axel's slave again or go under a perverted oligarch, as for me, this fits the definition of corruption.

Considering some of your other posts, this view does not surprise me in the least, still it is black and white on several points, when the world is shades of grey. While cheating or going back to an asshole like Axel most definitely is corrupt or self-forgetting, your other points are very much a choice of what you do and not corrupt on their own.
Stalkfap is as corrupt as far as you decide to go and the "corruption grade" hinges very much why and what you do with it. Posting some "risk" bikini pics or artsy nudes on your own decision is about as corrupt as buying a packet of chewing gum!

"Having sex with anything that moves" might not be as squeaky clean as some people will want to, but a single or FwB Lena is not corrupt simply by the number of her sex partners. There is more to it than just this.

"Go under a perverted oligarch" is simply metagaming, since Eva "cast" Seymour as the main antagonist of the game, which he does not have to be. He could simply be a bored rich man dabbling in a new hobby and simping on Lena, as some paths of the game very much insinuate. Even Seymour and Lena hitting off from early on does not make her corrupt just so.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Considering some of your other posts, this view does not surprise me in the least, still it is black and white on several points, when the world is shades of grey. While cheating or going back to an asshole like Axel most definitely is corrupt or self-forgetting, your other points are very much a choice of what you do and not corrupt on their own.
Stalkfap is as corrupt as far as you decide to go and the "corruption grade" hinges very much why and what you do with it. Posting some "risk" bikini pics or artsy nudes on your own decision is about as corrupt as buying a packet of chewing gum!

"Having sex with anything that moves" might not be as squeaky clean as some people will want to, but a single or FwB Lena is not corrupt simply by the number of her sex partners. There is more to it than just this.

About Stalkfap, this is nothing more than a clarification, the player himself decides how much to corrupt Lena in this role. But more involvement in Stalkfap brings more easy money, especially exclusive requests, which are more perverted - you can't argue with that. When you play as "good Lena", you always face this temptation - "Wouldn't it all go to hell?" Because there simply isn't enough money.
Well, look, Lena. who went from being in a relationship with a guy, starts sleeping with a lot of guys. In terms of game mechanics in AVN, this can be called corruption. Of course I'm not judging, I myself have 3 such runs.

"Go under a perverted oligarch" is simply metagaming, since Eva "cast" Seymour as the main antagonist of the game, which he does not have to be. He could simply be a bored rich man dabbling in a new hobby and simping on Lena, as some paths of the game very much insinuate. Even Seymour and Lena hitting off from early on does not make her corrupt just so.

Based on some of your previous posts, these views don't surprise me at all. Yes - yes, good, innocent, slandered Seymour. I've heard this tale before. I won't fall for it a second time, I have more important things to do.

 

[fatpussy123]

Considering some of your other posts, this view does not surprise me in the least, still it is black and white on several points, when the world is shades of grey. While cheating or going back to an asshole like Axel most definitely is corrupt or self-forgetting, your other points are very much a choice of what you do and not corrupt on their own.
Stalkfap is as corrupt as far as you decide to go and the "corruption grade" hinges very much why and what you do with it. Posting some "risk" bikini pics or artsy nudes on your own decision is about as corrupt as buying a packet of chewing gum!

"Having sex with anything that moves" might not be as squeaky clean as some people will want to, but a single or FwB Lena is not corrupt simply by the number of her sex partners. There is more to it than just this.

"Go under a perverted oligarch" is simply metagaming, since Eva "cast" Seymour as the main antagonist of the game, which he does not have to be. He could simply be a bored rich man dabbling in a new hobby and simping on Lena, as some paths of the game very much insinuate. Even Seymour and Lena hitting off from early on does not make her corrupt just so.

I think for something to be considered corruption in porn terms, 3 things broadly need to be met.
First: The character needs to undergo some sort of shift at the hands of some outside force. Of course the result will be sexual in nature.
Second: the character needs to initially believe what the end result to be as being bad. For example Lena initially thinks cheating on Ian is bad, but though the outside influence of Axel's wondercock, she does it anyways. At the end she may or may not feel bad about it, maybe she justifies it to herself.
Third: The player must believe the final result to being a bad outcome for the character or for characters affected by the actions. If the player doesn't see anything wrong with the final result of the corruption, then they won't perceive it as being corruption. For example if Lena decides to make a very slutty stalkfap because of he bad finances, a player who sees stalkfap/onlyfans as being a bad path for women to go down, for whatever reason, will see Lena as being corrupted. But if a different player doesn't see anything wrong with making a stalkfap/onlyfans and just sees it as female empowerment, then he won't see it as being corruption.

This line of reasoning is in an earlier message I said Seymour's path could considered corruption if he went down the blackmail path, but not necessarily if Lena was down with him from the start. Obviously I see one as being very bad and the other not really bad unless you want

 

[manscout]

Regardless of how the player feels IRL about the themes used in Lena's corruption, it is still important to emphasize that Lena's character already starts with an established value that artistic modelling should not devolve into sex work, and both StalkFap and Seymour's route tempt Lena into selling out and to betray that value as they both start under the prerrogative of just being alternative ways of promoting and developing her modelling career.

Had both of those routes been presented as sex work from the start, perhaps the player could have explored them as a way of tailoring how Lena's character feels about sex work without it necessarily being "corruption", but the fact they are both about perverting her initial artistic values makes the corruption tropes pretty evident, regardless of if the player is having their Lena enjoy herself and dive headfirst, or if they are having her begrudgingly dragged into it.