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I said it COULD influence the cuck route, not that it necessarily will. For that to be influential in theory, Ian has to have clear interest in Alison. Being a voyeur is not enough on its own, because Ian can give 0 crap about Alison, give his complete blessing to Jeremy, and then just enjoy the porn and even score with her. He can have a complete porn set of Alison, but it doesn't impact his performance during the threesome in the slightest. He could jerk off to her pics to pump himself up and then vastly outperform Jeremy, with Alison even begging Ian to "scoop his cum out and plant your baby inside me".

If underperforming and voyeurism implied cuckoldry, then Jeremy would be a potential cuck as well, since he enjoys the pics that Ian took of Alison and then can watch how "his Alison" (the one that never had sex with Ian) would basically say how she constantly fantasized about Ian fucking her boobs.

So, the only branches where Ian's history with Alison could plausibly impact his cuck path with Lena would be:

1) Ian is serious about Lena
- Ian was interested in Alison but lost to Jeremy or screwed up by fucking Emma (ian_alison_interest > 1 and ian_alison_sex == False / ian_emma_sex)
- Ian is a voyeur with Alison (alison_voyeur)
- Ian acted insecure about Lena's past lovers (ian_cuck = 1)

2) Ian is casual about Lena
- All of the above + an alternative where Ian never lost Alison to Jeremy and instead decided to share her willingly because it's her fantasy
- Ian not being able to get it up during the threesome with Alison and Jeremy.

As you can see, these are very narrow conditions which could be very problematic from the game design perspective. So, it's unlikely that Eva will make them impact Ian's cuckold relationship with Lena to a great degree. At most, it could play a role in him being open to having a MMF threesome (threesome experience) or eventually Lena sending Ian sexy pics of her with other guys (voyeur history).
 
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If i go to Allison's trip than i got casual relationship with Lena right? and i can keep screwing Alisson? Anyone played this?
 

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There's plenty of jerk-off material other than Jeremy doing Alison: Cindy's pics that she sends Ian, Holly's selfies, Lena's stalkfap / selfies.
Naturally, Jeremy wouldn't be able to send anything because after Ian starts dating Alison she becomes loyal to him. Jeremy is her plan B if Ian is not interested. It might change after the threesome outcome, who knows.
She's not his girlfriend otherwise Jeremy wouldn't bang her.
Hi! Well, it is possible to get the early pic of Alison, even if you take her as your girlfriend later on. Likewise it is possible to have the threesome with Jeremy, even if Alison is Ian´s girlfriend by that time, as long as you choose specific options. But Alison indeed does become loyal to Ian once he starts showing interest in her and the threesome then is just for fun experimentation. So if you play Ian as a normal or studly guy, who performs well at the threesome, everything is ok. But I know you know it already, this is just for the other players.

I have to say I find it a bit funny that ORS which is a rather vanilla game kinkwise, has such a massive fanbase of wannabe cucks or better wanna be cheated ons, since what they want to see has less to do with cucking, which is something done by both partners together, and more with cheating and being treated like a doormat.
Nearly every page of the thread contains posts which want to know how to best treat Ian like a doormat or how the girls can cheat on him as soon as possible. What the hell is going on here? There are games on F95 with special NTR modes and even these games have a less high percentage of self-flaggelants!
 

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If i go to Allison's trip than i got casual relationship with Lena right? and i can keep screwing Alisson? Anyone played this?
Going on a trip alone doesn't impact Ian's relationship with Lena. They can still have a talk and Ian can confess his feelings / ask for a relationship. What prevents Ian from starting a serious relationship with Lena is them not falling ln love with each other (ian_lena_love = False or lena_ian_love = False) and optionally triggering the love route with Alison. This way you can keep hooking up with Lena and Alison. Otherwise, Ian will break up with Alison if he's serious with Lena.
 
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I have to say I find it a bit funny that ORS which is a rather vanilla game kinkwise, has such a massive fanbase of wannabe cucks or better wanna be cheated ons
I think it's more of the case there's mommysboiii who champions the cuck cause with wild abandon, and a lot of people who absolutely can't stand this idea and express their disapproval for it energetically. /s
 
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I have to say I find it a bit funny that ORS which is a rather vanilla game kinkwise, has such a massive fanbase of wannabe cucks or better wanna be cheated ons, since what they want to see has less to do with cucking, which is something done by both partners together, and more with cheating and being treated like a doormat.
Nearly every page of the thread contains posts which want to know how to best treat Ian like a doormat or how the girls can cheat on him as soon as possible. What the hell is going on here? There are games on F95 with special NTR modes and even these games have a less high percentage of self-flaggelants!
GGGB started it, people are just expecting to do the same here I guess. Ashley could absolutely destroy Eric's masculinity, I can't enjoy that route at all, it was just too brutal.

Personally, I'd love to see the inclusion of a cuckquean path for Lena. Her cuckqueaning Louise is too easy. But if somehow she realized that her intense hatred of Axel was triggered by a repressed sense of shame caused by arousal from Axel's insatiable sexuality and potential of complete domination... She can have a sex slave fantasy, and a slave can't demand from her master who he can or can't fuck, she's only there to bring him pleasure by any means necessary. And if he wants to get laid with other girls, it is her duty to provide help and support. That said, I'd prefer something mild, her just enjoying watching or helping out during sort-of-threesomes. It was hot when Ivy could seduce Holly despite Lena's protests and introduce her to lesbian sex right in front of Lena. Hopefully something like that would also be possible with Ian (watching him do Emma for example or better yet, Bad Jess).
 
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(ian_lena_love = False or lena_ian_love = False)
So if (Lena_ian_love = True) meaning Lena loves Ian but Ian doesn't do they don't get serious. Also (ian_lena_love) is only true or false depends on ian and Jeremy talk in club right?
 
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I said it COULD influence the cuck route, not that it necessarily will. For that to be influential in theory, Ian has to have clear interest in Alison. Being a voyeur is not enough on its own, because Ian can give 0 crap about Alison, give his complete blessing to Jeremy, and then just enjoy the porn and even score with her. He can have a complete porn set of Alison, but it doesn't impact his performance during the threesome in the slightest. He could jerk off to her pics to pump himself up and then vastly outperform Jeremy, with Alison even begging Ian to "scoop his cum out and plant your baby inside me".

If underperforming and voyeurism implied cuckoldry, then Jeremy would be a potential cuck as well, since he enjoys the pics that Ian took of Alison and then can watch how "his Alison" (the one that never had sex with Ian) would basically say how she constantly fantasized about Ian fucking her boobs.

So, the only branches where Ian's history with Alison could plausibly impact his cuck path with Lena would be:

1) Ian is serious about Lena
- Ian was interested in Alison but lost to Jeremy or screwed up by fucking Emma (ian_alison_interest > 1 and ian_alison_sex == False / ian_emma_sex)
- Ian is a voyeur with Alison (alison_voyeur)
- Ian acted insecure about Lena's past lovers (ian_cuck = 1)

2) Ian is casual about Lena
- All of the above + an alternative where Ian never lost Alison to Jeremy and instead decided to share her willingly because it's her fantasy
- Ian not being able to get it up during the threesome with Alison and Jeremy.

As you can see, these are very narrow conditions which could be very problematic from the game design perspective. So, it's unlikely that Eva will make them impact Ian's cuckold relationship with Lena to a great degree. At most, it could play a role in him being open to having a MMF threesome (threesome experience) or eventually Lena sending Ian sexy pics of her with other guys (voyeur history).
And I said it clearly WILL influence it, not that it already does. What it does influence, currently, is the dialogue during the threesome which clearly shows Ian is liking the live performance he is seeing.

But tell me, what DO you think the end-goal with Ian jerking off to Jeremy fucking his crush is going to be? It's very similar to the actual thing that Ian does on a "cuck route" with Lena's stalksap and saying it turns him on that people are jerking off to his gf?
 
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You're right, and it's a fair complaint to make; but it seems the cuck route for Ian will be an option only if he's in relationship with Lena. Maybe Eva will add such options for the other routes as they develop further, but to be honest i wouldn't hold my breath.
but than again we already know that there will be scenes between cindy/axel , holly corruption scenes,........ this scenes will be drawn anyway from eva thats my point that she would not need to draw new scens for that because this kinky corruption scenes will already exist in the future anyway(at least on ian/lena single routes)

so it should not be that hard to have some viable in earlygame or something that effect writting and if you wanna see this scenes in a realtionship with corruption if you play lena ian a certain way.
 

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I have to say I find it a bit funny that ORS which is a rather vanilla game kinkwise, has such a massive fanbase of wannabe cucks or better wanna be cheated ons, since what they want to see has less to do with cucking, which is something done by both partners together, and more with cheating and being treated like a doormat.
Nearly every page of the thread contains posts which want to know how to best treat Ian like a doormat or how the girls can cheat on him as soon as possible. What the hell is going on here? There are games on F95 with special NTR modes and even these games have a less high percentage of self-flaggelants!
I mean we are only halfway through and GGGB was a very kinky game and these things are highly
implied in the writting axel cindy photoshoot text??? holly corruption text??? holly bouncer text?? gillian writting if you dont throw the pics away???jeremy sending pics?? alison threesome ian compare his seize to jeremy??? the underperformance?? jeremy cums inside alison??the lena deniel route?? there are alot of text that implie insecurity or some kind of downfall for a specific girl so it dosent come out of the blue.If it will happens in the future we will see but at least it is implied
 
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but than again we already know that there will be scenes between cindy/axel , holly corruption scenes,........ this scenes will be drawn anyway from eva thats my point that she would not need to draw new scens for that because this kinky corruption scenes will already exist in the future anyway(at least on ian/lena single routes)

so it should not be that hard to have some viable in earlygame or something that effect writting and if you wanna see this scenes in a realtionship with corruption if you play lena ian a certain way.
My take: Ian can become the cuck with Lena because they reached a stage where they could fully commit to each other. None of the other girls in Ian's life have reached the same status yet. Even with Holly, she clearly expressed that she doesn't want to pressure him into anything and is happy to go one step at a time. It's hard to be a cuck in a casual relationship because there are no obligations on anybody aside from maybe difference in expectations. Alison, despite being the first hookup Ian could have, is still beating around the bush and isn't ready to ask Ian about a serious relationship (I'm guessing she wants to explore her fantasies first).

As soon as another girl will be ready for a serious relationship (official relationship status), I don't doubt there will be various challenges introduced that might shaken up the dynamic in one way or another. Not every girl needs to have a cuck path with Ian, some girls are just not into being shared and equate it to lack of love / respect.
 

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But tell me, what DO you think the end-goal with Ian jerking off to Jeremy fucking his crush is going to be? It's very similar to the actual thing that Ian does on a "cuck route" with Lena's stalksap and saying it turns him on that people are jerking off to his gf?
It might unlock the cuck path with Alison in the future and have nothing to do with Lena. Or it might not affect anything and Ian who didn't get laid with Alison will just be able to live out his sexual fantasies vicariously through Jeremy. After all, he could end up being single and not date anybody. Just like Stan can jerk off to Lena's pics and not have any sexual relationship with her. Or Perry who has an attraction to Cherry and claims that he doesn't want to fuck her but is happy scrolling through her censored nudes and would probably jerk off listening to Ian doing her on the other side of the wall.
 
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I think it's more of the case there's mommysboiii who champions the cuck cause with wild abandon, and a lot of people who absolutely can't stand this idea and express their disapproval for it energetically. /s
no i think there are alot of people that only play there route not everything and never encounter this writting and think this writting dosent exist because they dont play this route or they dont like it and dont want that this writting exist because they are scared it takes away from their vanilla route (which still dosent change the fact that this game is in the first place a corruption game like GGGD which alot of people still denie and think it is some standart vanilla/fuckfest romance novel)
 
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Just like Stan can jerk off to Lena's pics and not have any sexual relationship with her. Or Perry who has an attraction to Cherry and claims that he doesn't want to fuck her but is happy scrolling through her censored nudes and would probably jerk off listening to Ian doing her on the other side of the wall.
Huh? What does this have to do with Ian? Why are we derailing the conversation?

Anyway, this is clearly going to have some payoff so it's up to you to you if you are willing to accept that or not. I honestly don't see how this doesn't feed into Ian's "cuck tendency" considering it's such a cliche but alright.
 
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