The problem is there no "neutral" way of seeing how things play out because everyone is emotional about the characters in this thread.
As I said, Ian and Lena interfer extremely often with the other characters. This by design and part of the game.
No. You can always hide it from her but you can't always tell her. Lena's friendship to Louise is optional (at least the extent of it). If she is a loose friend, then you don't interfer in her business.
No. If he stays with Perry and Cherry to not be a dick to them, Alison already enjoys Jeremys affection. And getting it back requieres high charisma.
Because its not the default option. It requires higher friendship points with Louise. Not telling her is the standard "so nothing and let things play out and let them make their own decisions".
Yes, Louise comes home, tells Lena about it, cries and even makes a move on her if she has high friendship with her.
No, Ian doesn't allow Jeremy to do so. He merely informs him. Jeremy simply never considered Emma and Ians encouragement gave him he idea. Then he approached Emma and she agreed on it wholeheartily. This is much different than Ivy asking Ian and Lena. Emma (and Alison and Louise) find Jeremy attractive and valuable for a fuck.
It's a roleplaying game, I don't really see the point in arguing for neutrality anyway. We play the characters in the way we like, right?
Elaborate, what is that proof of?
I don't really see why this is an interesting exercise though, Ian and Lena are the game after all.
Sure, but doesn't the other option have a requirment as well? Last time I played that bit it had a lust icon, but that might just have been because that Lena focused on Jeremy's cock earlier.
Fair enough, maybe they aren't always close. Regardless of how close I am to someone I'd always tell them if I knew their partner was cheating on them, but I guess Lena is different when it comes to that.
I'd argue you have to be an overly cautious friend to see yourself as being a dick for not babysitting someone else through a social interaction. Wouldn't it be player interference too not to let Perry sail his own boat?
I think it's pretty viable -- out of them two it's not Ian but Jeremy who first sees Alison as someone to have sex with and not just a platonic friend. (and brings it to Ian's attention) Ian can potentially disagree, but Jeremy always has this mindset and will hit on Alison unless Ian asks him to stay away.
And thus "player interference" to change Ian's mind, huh?
Yup, you'd have the cries of "unavoidable NTR" pretty much guaranteed. I mean, we already get a slight taste with all the freaking out over Cindy possibly fucking Axel no matter what.
It's extremely useful if we want to nail down the characters and consider what they are the most likeliest to do.
Alison is eager for attention and stress relieve. Quickly after her break up she contacted the two guys she would hit it off. She even contacted Jeremy earlier. If Ian wasn't there, Jeremy and Alison would text more, then meet up and fuck.
I don't recall that, but thats interesting. Isn't the above choice still dependant on her friendship with Louise? One of the two choices has to be default, else the player would be stuck.
If she really wanted to focus on Ian, she wouldn't let him touch her. Ian really has to show interest, or else she shifts to Jeremy without hesitation. Because Jeremy makes her move on her and she likes that in general.
Jeremy sees a girl, he just wants to fuck her and the cycle continues. That's Jeremy's life and mindset.
Than what's the point of having choices if everything leads to "Unavoidable NTR"Yup, you'd have the cries of "unavoidable NTR" pretty much guaranteed. I mean, we already get a slight taste with all the freaking out over Cindy possibly fucking Axel no matter what.
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Thats the thing,we all perceive this game in different ways,we all have differents morals so what is neutral to you is not going to neutral to others.
It's True How the Players Play and Choose the Option it will Lead them to the Characters and their final part. Now Look at Lena She is Struggling from the Very Beginning
Even more so since Alison is framed as the first girl Ian can have sex scenes with. Imagine if it was actually hard to get!Yup, you'd have the cries of "unavoidable NTR" pretty much guaranteed. I mean, we already get a slight taste with all the freaking out over Cindy possibly fucking Axel no matter what.
Well, I said interesting not useful
But Ian is there. My point was that we can't remove him because the possibilities become endless.
Can you explain this more? My Ian has no problem getting with any of the girls he wants at this point in the story, Alison doesn't go away from him unless he goes for Emma down the line.
I think it's just an indicator. I tried playing through it just now where I didn't gain any friendship with Louise but wasn't interested in Jeremy either, the option had no lust icon. In my old save it still had it though.
Eh, keep in mind that Alison's crush is an old and unfulfilled one, it's not that weird that she's receptive towards someone who shows their desires more candidly.
We don't, I abhor designations of "canonical" events. It's why I dislike the GGGB cameos so much.
It's an old game by now, I think many people here have at least tried it.
Fine, Ian doesn't need to go as far as being exclusive, but as long as Ian gives her attention, she stays loyal to him. Doesn't matter regarding your original claim that Alison only goes for Jeremy because Ian arranged a meeting.
I never claimed Alison only goes for Jeremy because Ian arranges a meeting, what?
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Again, Alison already contacted Jeremy and teased him. They would 100% meet and fuck, even more so if Ian was out of the picture. He is the only person that can prevent this.
Oh that.
So the point I was making wasn't "Alison and Jeremy would never have had sex without Ian" and more that "It makes no sense to remove Ian because you could make any argument if you change the circumstances."
The game gives the option to remove Ian and Lena quite often (e.g. if they don't follow a path or give no or dismissive answers) and it shows how the characters progress "normally" without the player interfering. So its not "any" argument but a valuable one supported by the game. We can ascertain fairly easily how the characters would behave and develop without Ian and Lena, because its half done already. E.g. Wade and Cindy normally falling apart since Wade is clueless and unempathic about relationship and his partners perspective, Cindy distancing herself from Wade because she is unable to communicate her stance etc.
Futaba reminds of Holly,geek characters who need to get a grip and a bath ASAP.It's True How the Players Play and Choose the Option it will Lead them to the Characters and their final part. Now Look at Lena She is Struggling from the Very Beginning
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