Zara Scarlet

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Enough time ? By the time EK took to write almost twelve chapters of a porn game, Tolstoi had written both War and Peace and Anna Karenin. True story.
People in the 19th Century didn't have anywhere near as many distractions as we do. Keeping focussed these days, requires a lot more discipline. Tolstoy wouldn't have to ignore phone calls, texts, emails, alerts or have the constant temptation of news updates, games, tv shows, films, music and about a billion other things, literally at his fingertips.

The other thing you need to consider, is that maybe EK has a life outside creating these games? You mentioned Kafka, who was a tortured individual with very low self-esteem. Writing was virtually the only thing that brought him any joy, and consequently he devoted virtually all his free time to it.
 
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People in the 19th Century didn't have anywhere near as many distractions as we do. Keeping focussed these days, requires a lot more discipline. Tolstoy wouldn't have to ignore phone calls, texts, emails, alerts or have the constant temptation of news updates, games, tv shows, films, music and about a billion other things, literally at his fingertips.

The other thing you need to consider, is that maybe EK has a life outside creating these games? You mentioned Kafka, who was a tortured individual with very low self-esteem. Writing was virtually the only thing that brought him any joy, and consequently he devoted virtually all his free time to it.
So we are waiting six months for short updates because EK is too busy on Peoplegram and WhatsApp ? Lol.
 
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Pfft, but how many porn visual novels did Kafka publish in that time? I'll tell you: a big, fat, zero.

Thus we can conclude EK is a more prolific creator than Kafka, qed.
Hold on a sec, you are not seriously saying that it takes more time to write a porn game than a masterpiece of classic litterature right ?
 

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Hold on a sec, you are not seriously saying that it takes more time to write a porn game than a masterpiece of classic litterature right ?
Not seriously, no. But i am sort of making a point that you're comparing apples to oranges -- it's a very different thing to write a completely linear regular novel, and to write a story which is effectively a dozen of different potential plots at once rolled into one, accompanied with special code to handle these variants, and to produce associated artwork.
 

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Not seriously, no. But i am sort of making a point that you're comparing apples to oranges -- it's a very different thing to write a completely linear regular novel, and to write a story which is effectively a dozen of different potential plots at once rolled into one, accompanied with special code to handle these variants, and to produce associated artwork.
I would take your point if we were at a stage of the story with the level of complexity of GGGB at the very end. Five years later we are not, far from it. Only two FFM, one MFM without one of the main protagonist, no swinging, not one single orgy, and the cuck route is still at "does it turn you on" (for the last year and a half). EK is fooling everyone.
 

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There would also need to be a counter for this for people who reject Seymour's influence. For Ian this could be Victor/Minerva helping him if he wins the book contest honestly. For Lena I can see Seymour's route will impact her modeling side so I can see either Billy's route(with the right stats for a positive outcome) or if she sent her parents money then it turns out that
Seymour already has impeded Lena's modelling career, by persuading local photographers and the art gallery, not to employ her. But his threat to ban her from Peoplegram never materialised. How would he have done that anyway? If we assume that Peoplegram is just an alternative name for Instagram, how would someone like Seymour be able to get anyone banned from it? He may have quite a bit of power in Baluart, but does that extend internationally, as it would have to, in order to achieve that? It always seemed a pretty lame threat to me, that Lena would see through immediately. And the fact that she was later employed by a visiting photographer from another city, demonstrates pretty clearly that Seymour's influence doesn't extend far beyond the boundaries of Baluart.

Lena has a lot of potential options, that Seymour can't interfere with. She can carry on working at the cafe (which her efforts can make a lot more successful), she has her budding music career, she'll possibly be able to work as a bar tender or gogo dancer at Blazer, and of course as a model for out of town photographers, Billy and even Stan. And that doesn't include Stalkfap and whatever that might lead to in the future. So although Seymour can initially make things difficult for her, once she's weathered the storm, the prospects for her, are not as bleak as she might have believed

I think if Ian and Lena are together, the biggest threat from Seymour, is what he can do to Ian's aspirations. He can seriously impede Ian's writing ambitions, because he's a major player in publishing. New authors need all the luck they can get, and making an enemy like Seymour, is the last thing an aspiring writer would want. So I reckon, Seymour will use that, as a last resort to persuade Lena to give in to his demands. No doubt he'll threaten to destroy Ian, if she doesn't. In that case, as you suggest, it will probably depend on what kind of relationship Ian has with Minerva and Victor. My guess is, Seymour believes that Minerva is in his pocket, but if Ian and her have previously had a relationship, she may not vote the way he expects. And if Ian has started writing a column in Victor's literary magazine, I assume that will lead to him helping Ian establishing himself as a writer.
 
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I would take your point if we were at a stage of the story with the level of complexity of GGGB at the very end.
I have seen the game script for both ORS and GGGB.

GGGB doesn't hold candle to what ORS script is like at this point, in terms of complexity. Two independent agents with freedom of choice make considerable difference.
 

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Seymour already has impeded Lena's modelling career, by persuading local photographers and the art gallery, not to employ her. But his threat to ban her from Peoplegram never materialised. How would he have done that anyway? If we assume that Peoplegram is just an alternative name for Instagram, how would someone like Seymour be able to get anyone banned from it? He may have quite a bit of power in Baluart, but does that extend internationally, as it would have to, in order to achieve that? It always seemed a pretty lame threat to me, that Lena would see through immediately. And the fact that she was later employed by a visiting photographer from another city, demonstrates pretty clearly that Seymour's influence doesn't extend far beyond the boundaries of Baluart.

Lena has a lot of potential options, that Seymour can't interfere with. She can carry on working at the cafe (which her efforts can make a lot more successful), she has her budding music career, she'll possibly be able to work as a bar tender or gogo dancer at Blazer, and of course as a model for out of town photographers, Billy and even Stan. And that doesn't include Stalkfap and whatever that might lead to in the future. So although Seymour can initially make things difficult for her, once she's weathered the storm, the prospects for her, are not as bleak as she might have believed

I think if Ian and Lena are together, the biggest threat from Seymour, is what he can do to Ian's asperations. He can seriously impede Ian's writing ambitions, because he's a major player in publishing. New authors need all the luck they can get, and making an enemy like Seymour, is the last thing an aspiring writer would want. So I reckon, Seymour will use that, as a last resort to persuade Lena to give in to his demands. No doubt he'll threaten to destroy Ian, if she doesn't. In that case, as you suggest, it will probably depend on what kind of relationship Ian has with Minerva and Victor. My guess is, Seymour believes that Minerva is in his pocket, but if Ian and her have previously had a relationship, she may not vote the way he expects. And if Ian has started writing a column in Victor's literary magazine, I assume that will lead to him helping Ian establishing himself as a writer.
Good thing my Lena doesn't need to worry about Ian since they aren't dating. But on a serious note I was just talking about countering Seymour for players who either want to focus on Lena's modeling or for players who want to get off his route once on it.

The way I can see Seymour going after her online presence would be to try and hit her with something like false DMCA on the site or something like that. Like he can either buy the copyright from a professional photographer or lie and say he was the one who took the photos and try to bleed her with some bs like that.

Realisticly I just don't think the dev was ever going to actually make it so that Seymour would completely block a career path for either mc if they didn't follow his route. That only downplays his "villain" role in the story since there needs to be alternatives for player who have absolutely no interest in interacting with the character. The only way for him to be seen as the big imposing threat that he's supposed to be would have been to actually do that tho until he was able to be exposed but that wouldn't have been fun for the players.
 
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My last comment made me think about sth so I have checked: ORS has been going on for five years. Twelve chapters. EK doesn't seem to do anything else.
For the same amount of time, Kafka, from 1915 to 1920, wrote and published his most famous novels, Die Verwandlung 1915, 1919 In der Strafkolonie, 1920 Ein Landarzt Kleine Erzählungen.
May I add that he was a full time insurance sales agent writing on his free time, and was employee of the month and top biller every single month.
Anyone still paying EK is either in love with her or next of kin.
Please you dont you ever compare "MUH ALPHA COCK" Evakiss to Kafka ever again:HideThePain:
 
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