doctor13

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I kinda knew creepy was the wrong word but went with it. The phrase I'm looking for has completely escaped me. More innocuous, maybe?
 
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Tallyhoe

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I think Lena porn route is likely but will probably be more in line of having sex along the way but unknowingly filmed and released without permission and she finds out later or something, like castingcounch.

that or maybe simply just premium escort service because money.
 

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I have problem with the 7.1 version... The 7.0 was perfect. I can't load alle the saves from 7.0 but only fews :-(
 

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I think some of her stalkfap subscribers will ask her for sex for money. It looks like Ivy already does such things with her subscribers. That way she could afford a new car.
Not sex. Private videos likely masturbating and or using dildos since she works alone. Guess it should be a bit similar to chaturbate.
 
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i'm not so sure on the porn route. i mean, i really would like the porn route, as i like the prostitute theme as well. although for the latter i havn't seen a game that made it right (or at least "right for my taste"). repeating the same elements might not be the best course of action, but what made GGGB's end so cartoonish was the airheaded way Ashley easily joined. with Lena this could be made way more serious. besides she already does stalkfap, which is pretty much a copy paste of Ashley's streaming and also kind of porn-y on it's own. considering the photo shoot with Axel and Lena, all that was left for it to become porn, was insertion.
so even though a porn route might not be that new and exciting, EK can still do another spin on it for the story to be still interesting and enjoyable. anyway old is not immediately bad.
 

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I understand not wanting to declare that porn route is a definite outcome yet, or how specifically it will come to pass, I am still waiting to see where the Billy thing goes until I decide what to predict.

GGGB was in many ways more extreme in its character changes and narrative tropes, not just the porn route either, for example Eva becoming a bbc slut after her first time trying, disregarding any supposed romantic feelings she'd previously expressed towards Ashley if you were attempting that relationship, not to mention both of their thug routes.

Still, I feel it's almost a must for a game of this nature and with 12+ chapters left and Lena on the borderline of being able to be a camgirl by now, I feel like it has a good chance of turning into either porn or VIP escorting, keep in mind Lena's money woes. The game is partly framed around this concept of how far Lena is willing to go to keep an income.

I think it will be more gradual than Ashley's porn route. Eva seems to be trying to make the character developments in this game more evenly paced.
 

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GGGB was in many ways more extreme in its character changes and narrative tropes, not just the porn route either, for example Eva becoming a bbc slut after her first time trying, disregarding any supposed romantic feelings she'd previously expressed towards Ashley if you were attempting that relationship, not to mention both of their thug routes.
Fun fact, there is inaccessible content in GGGB for an "open relationship" with Eva, similar to what Bimbo Ash can have with Eric or Dave. In it Eva and Ash would maintain that they have romantic feelings for each other, but neither of them is ready to give up on dick, so they would agree to keep being lovers but open their relationship.

The reason why the content is inaccessible is because the way the code is structured, Eva needs to be craving bbc and still be Ash's girlfriend to trigger the "open relationship" scene, but if she is craving bbc after getting gangbanged in Tyrone's party then she always breaks up with Ash before the "open relationship" resolution has a chance to trigger (she breaks up with Ash and they agree to be "sex buddies" instead of lovers). There is a chance it might be intentional since maybe EvaKiss felt the "open relationship" and "sexfriends" routes were too similar, but I think it is a coding mishap that never got officially patched.

But regarding a porn route in ORS, I think it will definitely be an endgame for a super corrupted Lena. I think Billy's content will be for now only erotic modelling and softcore stuff (not much different from what she can already be doing with Seymour, but with even less of an artistic cover to it), then I think eventually Ivy will introduce Lena to escorting (yeah no way she's making THAT much money just from stalkfap), and then finally both of those things will eventually culminate into Lena becoming a porn actress. I do wonder if such a route will go for a more "broken" tone (troubled girl is forced to give up on all her artistic aspirations and becomes just a sex object for an exploitative industry) or if it will give it an "empowering" spin (Lena finds in her lust the passion she had been seeking all this time, and embraces porn acting as performance art, the form of expression that finally clicks with her life).
 
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I hope a potential porn route can include a Lena who still has some agency and independence without being reduced to a similar plastic bimbo version as Ashley in GGGB. A "I'm a cock loving whore and I need you to fill all my holes" Lena would, at least for me, take away a lot of the value of the game's more nuanced storytelling.

Maybe having high wits could lead to a route where she and Ivy simply decides to make their own porn company, or something along those lines? And then maxing her lust stat could lead to a more conventional porn route.
 

BlandChili

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Maybe having high wits could lead to a route where she and Ivy simply decides to make their own porn company, or something along those lines? And then maxing her lust stat could lead to a more conventional porn route.
Not a bad idea. Actually, wits does represent Lena's creative side so something that could be really interesting might be if Lena could become a porn director, only featuring herself when she wants but otherwise wanting to create porn that attempts to make some sort of statement; artistic, social, political etc. an extension of Lena's views on nude modeling if you will.

It would also be an interesting way to take the "empowering" theme, that you don't necessarily have to be the person in front of the camera. You can be the one in control from behind it.
 

BlandChili

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Yeah, sure, I just doubt that detail would be decisive to a porn/escort route. At least not in this stage of the story.
 

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The problem with a 'porn route' is that it is boring. ORS is about relationships not random sex. Porn (and prostitution, for that matter) are not about that, it is just sex without any meaning. It is OK for an ending, like in GGGB but I don't believe there will be regular porn-scenes.
The Stalkfap route seem to be mostly about Stan. Ed is there, too. Ian also can join up and who knows who else is following her already.
 

BlandChili

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The problem with a 'porn route' is that it is boring. ORS is about relationships not random sex. Porn (and prostitution, for that matter) are not about that, it is just sex without any meaning. It is OK for an ending, like in GGGB but I don't believe there will be regular porn-scenes.
While I do agree personally, some users like sex without any deeper meaning and Eva has a history of not having a problem with supplying that sort of material too. I don't think the substance, if you will, will be deciding.
The Stalkfap route seem to be mostly about Stan. Ed is there, too. Ian also can join up and who knows who else is following her already.
I'm pretty sure it's going to have some sort of impact that doesn't include any characters though, but I suppose we'll see. If Lena agrees with Ivy about what direction to take it she will always include Stan I think and Ed so far is his own actor.
You can use stalkfap in a less explicit fashion that doesn't include either Stan or Ian, dunno what'll happen with Ed in that case, but I can't imagine it will just be something Lena can keep up without any reactions for the whole game.
 

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I hope a potential porn route can include a Lena who still has some agency and independence without being reduced to a similar plastic bimbo version as Ashley in GGGB. A "I'm a cock loving whore and I need you to fill all my holes" Lena would, at least for me, take away a lot of the value of the game's more nuanced storytelling.

Maybe having high wits could lead to a route where she and Ivy simply decides to make their own porn company, or something along those lines? And then maxing her lust stat could lead to a more conventional porn route.
I feel the same way. Althought many people may think otherwise, not all pornstars are dumb bimbos. There are some extremely intelligent women in this line of work. There's a youtube channel where Holly Randall (Holly Randall Unfiltered) interviews regularly several people from the sex industry (mainly pornstars, but also directors, escorts, cam girls, therapeuts, activists, etc), and you can see that many people in this line of work are actually incredibly smart. A few interviews came to mind as extremely good examples of this, such as Kate Kennedy, Lena Paul, Sasha Grey, Asa Akira, Alina Lopez, Abigail Mac, Tori Black, Jenna Haze, etc. Another good example is her interview with Amy Taylor, a professional escort.

This doesn't mean that the porn dumb bimbo stereotype is a myth, but it can actually be a bit less generalized than many people think.

That being said, I also hope that there can be one (or several) path(s) where a sex positive and adventurous Lena can still be a smart and reliable girl and not just get turned into a "mindless cum dump". That would be an extremely disappointing path in my opinion. I did really like GGGB for the most part, but to be honest the last updates and the endings did disappoint me a bit.

In terms of narrative ORS seems a much more developped story and I hope it can offer some alternative paths that are less cliché then GGGB further down the line. I confess I'm a bit fearful that may not be the case, since I quite liked Ivy so far, because until recently she seemed like a fun, strong, independent and no bullshit type of girl who isn't affraid of her sexuality, but in this last update she started to sound more like the Jessica we knew from GGGB, which I considered to be the bimbo type...
 
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