VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[John Doe Jr.]

Not the greatest of arguments tbh. You can even find pedo porn as well. Just because some people are capable of doing some crazy shit doesn't mean it's healthy and should be included in the game with a very grounded atmosphere that tries to be relatable and deep. You need to be mindful of the genre first and foremost. You wouldn't include campy over the top stuff in The Dark Knight or Daredevil but it would work just fine in The Mask or Deadpool. Same here. ORS is definitely not the genre for these kinds of weird things. Given that it's a porn game that tries to be serious, there's definitely going to be some porn logic involved, featuring some of the biggest genres and fetishes of the mainstream porn. Hoping for anything extra bizarre would be like expecting famous A-list movie actors starring in movies with a real graphic depiction of unsimulated sex.

I'm not saying that such a thing should be added to the game, I'm trying to understand the counter argument people are using for the game being realistic. Does realistic mean things that are possible in the real world or things that are already done in the real world? Does it mean things that are accepted as ok in society?

 

[John Doe Jr.]

In my opinion, I think that using more “taboo” fetishes would do this project an injustice as they are considered off limits by general society That being said, currently the game follows a certain mainstream narrative and if it continues down on that path, then kinks such as incest and beastiality would be a bit of a shit stain on white linen, as they are considered “wrong” in many most countries and cultures (especially western culture, which is what this game is based on)

If the dev chooses to follow a more taboo route, I would not be horribly upset (if there is enough reason behind it), but as it stands I think doing so would cause harm to a brilliantly started narrative.

There was many things in her previous game that would be considered morally wrong by the mainstream. Granted, this is a different game

 

[Fatqat123]

Great, you are not into kink shaming, I really appreciate this But okay, beastiality is one of those trigger words amongst others in every thread even if it's just a simple option in a list what some players would like to see. Discussions will arise.

Kink shaming aside, think of it as people who are more passionate about adherent and plausible plot development rather than smashing in a bunch kinks to get their rocks off.

 

[Deleted member 69963]

it means that no sane person would indulge in sick fetishes like bestiality

You think bestiality is a sick fetish (which I agree) but you're fine with incest ? Pal, I think we're both sick in the head haha

 

[Fatqat123]

There was many things in her previous game that would be considered morally wrong by the mainstream. Granted, this is a different game

I completely agree there, and if you chose to follow them then they were rather satisfactory. Like I said, any kink or fetish is welcome if the narrative calls for it. At the moment there is no call hopefully if something taboo happens, it’s justifiable.

 

[Deleted member 69963]

Kink shaming aside, think of it as people who are more passionate about adherent and plausible plot development rather than smashing in a bunch kinks to get their rocks off.

Yeah I agree, to be honest, I don't mind at all if the game doesn't have any of those crazy kinks, I'll be happy with what the game has to offer at the end of the day. Hell, I already love it right now with barely any sex. I just thought that it would a + to me if it more kinks were added

 

[Fatqat123]

Yeah I agree, to be honest, I don't mind at all if the game doesn't have any of those crazy kinks, I'll be happy with what the game has to offer at the end of the day. Hell, I already love it right now with barely any sex. I just thought that it would a + to me if it more kinks were added

We’ll have to wait and see! Either way we can both agree this game is going to be amazing.

 

[Deleted member 69963]

We’ll have to wait and see! Either way we can both agree this game is going to be amazing.

One thing is sure, I'll definitely go for a Holly best waifu run , you can count on me (I can't wait)

 

[patriotslove]

wowww I was a really big fan of GGGB, and I just tried this one last night, and what I can say, the beginning of this one is amazing. Can't wait to play the next update, this game just caught me...
there will be a monthly uptade ??

By the way, I don't know if you share the same way than me guys, but I really have no interest to get Ian and Lena closer, I hope we won't be forced by the game because it seems so obvious between them. I'm not attrated by this relationship at all... I wish to see Lena fucked by Ed and Stan (and hope to see some old dude going after her). and Ian on his side fucking cindy and others girls.
What do you think ?

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Kink shaming aside, think of it as people who are more passionate about adherent and plausible plot development rather than smashing in a bunch kinks to get their rocks off.

Why not both? I'm not sure good plot development/good writing and kinks have to be an either or.

 

[mehGusta]

Hey guys, what kind of fetishes would you like to see added to the game ? It can be old ones from GGGB, new ones, reworked or expanded, etc you name it.
What I'd really like to see, I'd say (order isn't relevant) :
1. Traps / Sissification that would lead to shemale (But I think none of the current male characters would fit for this)
2. Shemales (Not like Jasmin in GGGB, I didn't like her. I'd say more like Aubrey Kate, Sarina Valentina, Mia Isabella, etc )
3. Incest (Brother/Sister, Mother/son, cousin, uncle, aunt)
4. Bestiality (I'd be surprised if it is added)
5. Bimbofication
6. Interracial (I'd like a more Expanded IR experience rather than just typical bbc or black/white. Like east and south Asians, native Americans, middle east, etc. Yes, Cherry is a hottie <3 )
7. Group sex (Orgies/gangbangs/MMF/FFM/FFMM (I'm pretty sure it's gonna be added like it was in GGGB))
8. Grannies ? (Not sure about this one but I wouldn't mind a GILF)
9. Pregnancy

God, I hate it when trans women are regarded as "fetishes". Smh. Would I like to see a trans character in ORS? Yes, but not as a girl with a dick but as another interesting character that has their dreams, relations to others, interesting personality, maybe an exotic lifestyle. If this character has nothing to offer other than just being a girl with a dick, then it's not worth it. Although if Jeremy tries hitting on her and ends up getting fucked in the ass by a girlcock I'd laugh so hard.
And regarding the zoo shit - wrong game, wrong author. Not happening.

1. Personally I'd like to see some femdom, especially from the queen Lena. I didn't enjoy that Ashley could only show some teeth in the Gangster route or dominate her cuck Eric. I would love to see a proper femdom where Lena can grab all the assholes around her by their balls and show them who's boss.
2. Also polyamory. So many games have group sex and swinging but not enough actually care to include actual group relationships. Ian, Lena and Holly would totally work as a poly-threesome.
3. And just for Minerva - golden showers. Let Ian piss on her. She desperately needs to experience the ultimate humiliation.

Number 5 is definitely on my list.
Number 6 if it's really more like how you say it, then of course i'd want that.
Number 7 is a given. i really doubt that's not gonna happen.
Number 9 can be really hot, i just doubt we'll get more than 1 scene of it.

and BloodyMares Number 2: oh yes! that really needs to be a thing. i don't know why there aren't any games that cater to that kind of storyline. it's either a couple with a sex friend, or it instantly flips towards a harem. but anyway, as soon as i saw the scene in the café with holly, lena and ian i knew they'll get a threesome, i'm betting you. would be really great if that became a threeway relationship, too.

i would also like to add full-blown Prostitution. in GGGB we barely got 2 scenes, one to get information out of norman and the other to get drugs from thugs. i'd rather would want something like lena quitting her jobs because she sees prostitution as a favourable way of earning money, since you mostly did whore-choices, instead of situation-related one-time chances or she is semi forced to do it.
and my biggest wish cuckquean. cuckold or swing, would be great too. it just has to be non-humiliating. cuck-eric was a big disappointment in that regard. i have more fun when both partners enjoy the adultery.

What male characters other than Ian you think would deserve Lena? Or, if there was an option to have MFM threesome with Lena and Ian, who would you pick as the third person?

sadly, there is not a lot of options for me. robert is an manipulative dick. axel is a psycho. wade is a slob. perry is a self-centred idiot. stan is a creep. danny is gay (what a shame, i really like him). maybe ed and so far i'm totally excited for seymour content, but i can hardly see them in a threesome with ian and lena. the only real option for me is jeremy, although he doesn't know when to quit, even when alison made it obvious she wants to go with ian. however i was lenient with jack in GGGB to some of his antics, so maybe i really should see this as jeremy actually wanting alison instead of just wanting to score, for whatever reason that may be.
i hope there are going to be more pleasant male characters in the future, so jeremy isn't the only option for a fmm threesome.

 

[afc2112]

Non consent / blackmail. We know Eva can go dark if she wants to.

 

[riot21]

Hey guys, what kind of fetishes would you like to see added to the game ? It can be old ones from GGGB, new ones, reworked or expanded, etc you name it.
What I'd really like to see, I'd say (order isn't relevant) :
1. Traps / Sissification that would lead to shemale (But I think none of the current male characters would fit for this)
2. Shemales (Not like Jasmin in GGGB, I didn't like her. I'd say more like Aubrey Kate, Sarina Valentina, Mia Isabella, etc )
3. Incest (Brother/Sister, Mother/son, cousin, uncle, aunt)
4. Bestiality (I'd be surprised if it is added)
5. Bimbofication
6. Interracial (I'd like a more Expanded IR experience rather than just typical bbc or black/white. Like east and south Asians, native Americans, middle east, etc. Yes, Cherry is a hottie <3 )
7. Group sex (Orgies/gangbangs/MMF/FFM/FFMM (I'm pretty sure it's gonna be added like it was in GGGB))
8. Grannies ? (Not sure about this one but I wouldn't mind a GILF)
9. Pregnancy

I'm defs hoping for 5, 7, and some sort of fucked up 9

 

[tehcatsmiaw]

such an underrated dev. so much better than many of the popular devs out there ... cough cough MrDots cough

 

[NaillMcDracken]

Shared Android port

 

[Creeping Death]

Kink shaming aside, think of it as people who are more passionate about adherent and plausible plot development rather than smashing in a bunch kinks to get their rocks off.

I completely agree there, and if you chose to follow them then they were rather satisfactory. Like I said, any kink or fetish is welcome if the narrative calls for it. At the moment there is no call hopefully if something taboo happens, it’s justifiable.

Why do you imply implementing more extreme kinks would lead to a brainless fuckfest? Aside I don't want this either! As shown in GGGB there can be a very hot (fetish) incest arc over many, many updates which was wonderfully integrated in the game!

Same could be achieved (I mean this will not happen) with something like K9. Decisions matter in EvaKiss' games and paths are sometimes tricky to find and mostly still abortable if you are already on it.

Sill this specific fetish will never be implemented. As far as I remember in the beginnings of GGGB there were questions about that topic and she had said, no way. I don't think anything changed since then (except she owns a dog now ). And on the other hand, she will not risk it, in any way, to get banned by patreon morale police.

 

[BloodyMares]

You think bestiality is a sick fetish (which I agree) but you're fine with incest ? Pal, I think we're both sick in the head haha

I am personally not fine with incest (I don't have any desire to fuck my relatives). But to be fair incest is only taboo because of the pregnancy. Otherwise, consenting adults can do whatever they want. If it's not molesting, then it's morally ambiguous (a victimless crime). For a long time, incest between cousins was widely accepted, often even resulting in marriage. And nowadays incest is probably one of the most popular kinks out there, just look up the amount of porn that is centered around the "step-" fantasy scenarios. I guess that's why to me it's easier to imagine incest to happen in a narrative-heavy game than bestiality. Because bestiality is pretty much universally considered to be animal abuse. And because Eva Kiss already included incest in GGGB, so it's not far-fetched to assume that it could be featured in ORS as well, while bestiality was not even mentioned or teased in that game so I suspect that she's not into writing it. Still, I don't think that Eva will want to risk her Patreon account by including another incest. I believe Patreon is already well-aware that incest is featured in GGGB, but because it isn't the focus of the game (selling point), they let it slide just this once. However, I imagine from now on Patreon will watch Eva's games closely so she needs to keep a low profile when it comes to writing.

Why do you imply implementing more extreme kinks would lead to a brainless fuckfest? Aside I don't want this either! As shown in GGGB there can be a very hot (fetish) incest arc over many, many updates which was wonderfully integrated in the game!

You need to consider that ORS is not as over-the-top as GGGB was, despite Eva Kiss making both. ORS is much more grounded and character-focused, as it was demonstrated with these 2 chapters. And to be honest, closer to the ending of GGGB, it turned into a brainless smutty fuckfest, especially on the Bad Girl path (Bimbo Ash gets bombarded with shallow sex scenes). Eva wants to avoid this exact thing with this game and decided to go for down-to-earth erotic (melo?)drama. Extreme kinks won't go well with this new approach unless she decides to include some dark kinks such as rape, prostitution, and things like that with the heavy focus on drama and shock value.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

DC gettn real competition here

 

[Jamina]

Hey guys, what kind of fetishes would you like to see added to the game ? It can be old ones from GGGB, new ones, reworked or expanded, etc you name it.
What I'd really like to see, I'd say (order isn't relevant) :
1. Traps / Sissification that would lead to shemale (But I think none of the current male characters would fit for this)
2. Shemales (Not like Jasmin in GGGB, I didn't like her. I'd say more like Aubrey Kate, Sarina Valentina, Mia Isabella, etc )
3. Incest (Brother/Sister, Mother/son, cousin, uncle, aunt)
4. Bestiality (I'd be surprised if it is added)
5. Bimbofication
6. Interracial (I'd like a more Expanded IR experience rather than just typical bbc or black/white. Like east and south Asians, native Americans, middle east, etc. Yes, Cherry is a hottie <3 )
7. Group sex (Orgies/gangbangs/MMF/FFM/FFMM (I'm pretty sure it's gonna be added like it was in GGGB))
8. Grannies ? (Not sure about this one but I wouldn't mind a GILF)
9. Pregnancy

Not many of these really fit into the setting I guess. Maybe 6 and 7. I am afraid Bimbofication could find it's way. I mean, I am fine with people liking it, but it really annoyed me the way it was implemented in GGGB. I was locked out from the pornstar route, without getting fake boobs - so I had to leave it out in the end.

I'd really like to see some additional sexworking-paths for Lena: Running down from poledancing, to strip club, to escorting or prostitution. Could be combined with some sort of blackmailing or not.
Minerva has great potential for Ian. "Oh you want to keep this job? I guess you'll have to show some extra devotion then later on my desk...". I mean, why is it only us girls should be semi-forced into sex for job opportunities?

Apart from that I am really happy with the game, the characters and how believable they are. It is well written, great replayability... so right now extraordinary sex fetishes are really more of the cherry on top for me at the moment.

 

[B0SS_LADY]

Lena will be a classy slut model too