VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Prokopije]

Slutty Holly route, you get her into pole dancing, let Ivy play with her, and can encourage her to release her inner slut. She can't be dating Ian.

Ok, thanks. Will try that road.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Because of double standards, what I just wrote and what you recognized yourself? I don't understand the complaint.

Yeah my bad,i read your post wrong
Ivy a shit.

 

[Hungover00]

Yeah my bad,i read your post wrong
Ivy a shit.

I want to know how deep the hole goes!

 

[Blurpee69]

This will probably get patched but as of now it is possible for Ian to participate in every threesome including the upcoming MMF threesome with Lena even after having the threesome with Holly. I was able to achieve this with a Lena on the slutty path. She had the threesome with Jeremy and Louise, the threesome with Ian and Louise and finally the threesome with Holly an Ian. Ian are FWB until chapter 12 where they enter into a throuple with Holly. But they still have the MMF threesome talks and can pick Jeremy as an option. Holly has the glory hole scene. So it's most likely an oversight by Eva that will get patched.

I mean I have a playthrough now where both Ian and Lena can participate in every threesome available to them. I know it's been patched already, but I just so happened to thread the needle between updates with how I saved that game.

I was just thinking it should be possible for Ian to participate in the Allison / Jeremy, Lena / Louise, Lena / Emma, Lena / Eli, and MMF threesomes without there actually being any conflicts. At least I haven't noticed any at least if Ian drops Allison and then commits to Lena. Lena just needs to flirt with every girl available to her, while commiting to ian. Lena / Holly might even still be on the table, just not the throuple threesomes, if the conversations are played right. I had a playthrough in which Lena protected Holly until the very last second before the beach trip and the subsequent conversation Ian has with her seemed to hint that there is interest from all three members, just not in a loving way.

I'm just looking for an orgy 3 people at a time here

 

[varpep]

Guys...I think I broke my Lena...

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[Eleanorduval]

I think is ch12,ian/lena can ask to be in open relation.Is there any consequences or not yet? i like if relation ian/lena/holly continu in the future

 

[Hungover00]

I think is ch12,ian/lena can ask to be in open relation.Is there any consequences or not yet? i like if relation ian/lena/holly continu in the future

I don't think the Holly Trinity is supposed to be compatible with the true open relationship, but it may be possible with older saves.

And I don't know if Ian/Lena can get Holly without it being the Trinity, though they definitely can both have her separately for slutty Holly, though it's tricky.

 

[Eleanorduval]

I don't think the Holly Trinity is supposed to be compatible with the true open relationship, but it may be possible with older saves.

And I don't know if Ian/Lena can get Holly without it being the Trinity, though they definitely can both have her separately for slutty Holly, though it's tricky.

when i was talking about open relationship,i was speaking in generally. Before if ian have sex with other than lena,she will tell him cheated. I dunno if after they are in open relationship they can fuck with anothers peoples,without consequences.

 

[Hungover00]

when i was talking about open relationship,i was speaking in generally. Before if ian have sex with other than lena,she will tell him cheated. I dunno if after they are in open relationship they can fuck with anothers peoples,without consequences.

Yes, that seems to be what I called the 'true' open relationship, because they stop thinking about it as cheating. There's a couple moments in late chapter 13 where that seems clear.

The first open relationship tag is more of a swinging/getting the occasional third (with big blind spots for how Lena recruits the women thirds).

 

[Eleanorduval]

Yes, that seems to be what I called the 'true' open relationship, because they stop thinking about it as cheating. There's a couple moments in late chapter 13 where that seems clear.

The first open relationship tag is more of a swinging/getting the occasional third (with big blind spots for how Lena recruits the women thirds).

but we was able before choice ian/lena open relationship? i remember ian saying they experience things,in earlies chapters.

 

[ffive]

Imagine if Mark, Marcel or Mike sent Lena the video, gloating how slutty Holly is. As mentioned, its the rape ugly bastard corruption, but meh, the rapist gets a freepass if they are hot.

We have Jeremy sending Ian videos of fucking Alison, but no one is crying how Jeremy is corrupting Alison into having wild BBC sex, potentially with his friend. And where the heck does the whole rape aspect come from here? As far as i can tell people are presuming that Ivy is drugging Holly without her knowledge and running with that, when there's literally zero evidence that Holly isn't taking the drugs willingly? (if she was even drugged)

And let's not forget that Holly fucks other guys like Clark on her own, and willingly sends pictures from these hookups to Ivy. And if given a chance, will jump on Ian as soon as opportunity appears. Are we going to clutch pearls that Ivy clearly must've drugged Holly in these instances, too?

 

[ffive]

Guys...I think I broke my Lena...

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IDK, that looks like regular Lena to me.

 

[Gicoo]

We have Jeremy sending Ian videos of fucking Alison, but no one is crying how Jeremy is corrupting Alison into having wild BBC sex, potentially with his friend.

There is a difference in accountability between two friends fucking and a person in a glory hole under drugs.

And where the heck does the whole rape aspect come from here?

Rape isn't merely defined by nonconsent, it can also happen if a person is forcefully pushed to sexual acts. Its ambigious, how far Holly wants to go, is aware of the consequences or in a aware state at all. Just silently obeying to everything Lena and Ivy command her, doesn't make their orders right by default. For whats worth, it is a moraly grey area and people may disagree on who is responsible to which extent.

Calling out that it is potentially rape and a crime that can mess up Holly is fair, just as enjoying this uglier storyline. Most people here a desensitized or rather play the game with a desensitized mindset, since porn often accomodates towards taboos and crimes, especially in the corruption genre.

 

[BlandChili]

We have Jeremy sending Ian videos of fucking Alison, but no one is crying how Jeremy is corrupting Alison into having wild BBC sex, potentially with his friend. And where the heck does the whole rape aspect come from here? As far as i can tell people are presuming that Ivy is drugging Holly without her knowledge and running with that, when there's literally zero evidence that Holly isn't taking the drugs willingly? (if she was even drugged)

And let's not forget that Holly fucks other guys like Clark on her own, and willingly sends pictures from these hookups to Ivy. And if given a chance, will jump on Ian as soon as opportunity appears. Are we going to clutch pearls that Ivy clearly must've drugged Holly in these instances, too?

I'll just add too, going off that one picture alone, of her beeing loopy-eyed after some BBC, that it could just as well be a lack of oxygen.

This might be a presumption of mine, but I imagine not too many of the men posting here knows what it's like to throat a cock, so just take me at my word when I say that light-headedness isn't too uncommon. Especially if the fella insists on releasing inside! It takes practice to be good at having your face fucked. Practice I assume Holly is still lacking, even with a variable labelling her as a "slut"

 

[Hungover00]

We have Jeremy sending Ian videos of fucking Alison, but no one is crying how Jeremy is corrupting Alison into having wild BBC sex, potentially with his friend. And where the heck does the whole rape aspect come from here? As far as i can tell people are presuming that Ivy is drugging Holly without her knowledge and running with that, when there's literally zero evidence that Holly isn't taking the drugs willingly? (if she was even drugged)

And let's not forget that Holly fucks other guys like Clark on her own, and willingly sends pictures from these hookups to Ivy. And if given a chance, will jump on Ian as soon as opportunity appears. Are we going to clutch pearls that Ivy clearly must've drugged Holly in these instances, too?

I know the drugging part hasn't been confirmed, but even Lena calls it out in dialogue, and Ivy is also the one that gives/offers Lena drugs at least twice. So it's a pretty safe assumption that's part of what's going on.

But also, I completely agree with you, Holly does seem to be consenting to everything up to that point, even if Ivy and Lena need to pressure her to get there. It does make it a bit murky if it's a healthy relationship, or a toxic one, but rape seems too far in everything we see before the gloryhole. Exploitation might be more accurate. But the gloryhole may have been more coercive, it's hard to tell yet, since Ivy did it without Lena around. More sneakiness and deniability?

I'll just add too, going off that one picture alone, of her beeing loopy-eyed after some BBC, that it could just as well be a lack of oxygen.

This might be a presumption of mine, but I imagine not too many of the men posting here knows what it's like to throat a cock, so just take me at my word when I say that light-headedness isn't too uncommon. Especially if the fella insists on releasing inside! It takes practice to be good at having your face fucked. Practice I assume Holly is still lacking, even with a variable labelling her as a "slut"

I'mma bet it's a combination of drugs and being face fucked.

 

[BlandChili]

I'mma bet it's a combination of drugs and being face fucked.

That's of course an option as well. It could also be a picture taken of her during motion and therefore not mean anything at all lol. I don't think anyone looks good retching after a deepthroat. I mean, unless you're into gagging I guess.

 

[Hungover00]

That's of course an option as well. It could also be a picture taken of her during motion and therefore not mean anything at all lol. I don't think anyone looks good retching after a deepthroat. I mean, unless you're into gagging I guess.

The fucking conversations on this platform it's absurd at times.

But not bad.

 

[Xupuzulla]

That poor girl from GOD was not high on cock.
Stop giving a pass to Ivy FUCKING Feynman

 

[ffive]

There is a difference in accountability between two friends fucking and a person in a glory hole under drugs.

Who is to say Alison wasn't drugged and that she normally wouldn't participate in such sex? That Jeremy isn't "corrupting her" behind the scenes? There's more than one time where Ian notes that Alison acts surprisingly uninhibited and in a manner he'd never think her to act. And she also keeps escalating her wild behavior.

(this is of course just playing devil's advocate, but the point is, we have zero information in both cases. But in one we choose to jump to conclusions, and in other it doesn't even occur to make such conclusions to some people. One could very well say that's just more of those supposed double standards)

Rape isn't merely defined by nonconsent, it can also happen if a person is forcefully pushed to sexual acts. Its ambigious, how far Holly wants to go, is aware of the consequences or in a aware state at all.

Right, precisely: it's ambiguous, if you want to be nice about it. Or a pure conjecture in terms of what we know, if one wants to be blunt.

Claiming that Holly got raped and that Ivy is a rapist "but she gets a pass" as if this is some sort of established fact instead of nothing but a wild fan theory, that's presumptuous, as best. It goes quite beyond calling it out as a potential rape.

edit: Also, it may be worth to remember this game doesn't have rape tag. I really doubt EK is developing a "Ivy is raping Holly" storyline here.

 

[El_Magnifico]

That poor girl from GOD was not high on cock.
Stop giving a pass to Ivy FUCKING Feynman

I thought I hated some ponytail bitch in another game but I was wrong. When I see you shit on Ivy every week, I realize what's real hate feels like.