Maviarab

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EK and other VN creators have always been known to delay releases. And that’s one of the reasons I think the patreon business model doesn’t work. I was a patreon until late last year as well and I gave up on it. There’s just no accountability on the creator’s side. To me, it would be nicer if the funds would just be released to them after certain milestones to be reached, but that would require Patreon to actually give a fuck about the content in their platform.
So just sub per update and then immediately cancel?
 

Salazarmorph

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So just sub per update and then immediately cancel?
I think it could work if Patreon withheld a percentage of their funds until a milestone was achieved. Of course, that would require a regulator in charge, and patreon has thousands of creators which could potentially make the whole process slower.
 

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I think it could work if Patreon withheld a percentage of their funds until a milestone was achieved. Of course, that would require a regulator in charge, and patreon has thousands of creators which could potentially make the whole process slower.
People can already do it by stopping their subscription. The "witheld percentage" is proportional to how many supporters feel this way.
 
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The update definitely wasn't close to being done at the beginning of the month and she probably knew several weeks before that it would not be. It's wild how docile patrons are.
Yeah that's true but there are a lot of worse Developers though dog. Eva doesn't stick to deadlines but she is definitely better than most devs and doesn't take advantage of the fans of her games as she does produce content alot more frequently than other devs like pink cakes milking ass.
 

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Yeah that's true but there are a lot of worse Developers though dog. Eva doesn't stick to deadlines but she is definitely better than most devs and doesn't take advantage of the fans of her games as she does produce content alot more frequently than other devs like pink cakes milking ass.
I agree. The only other game I've played here is Something Unlimited and EvaKiss absolutely blows him out of the water in both productivity and quality.

But getting bullshited is still annoying and what's truly irritating is seeing patrons eating it up with a "CaN't RuSh QuALiTy!!!" as they go 3 weeks without a status report only to get squeezed an extra month of money for a two weeks delay that turns into a 3 weeks delay. No matter the game, those fools stay the same.
 

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I could never be a developer. If you consistently release an update every month it's "never enough" or "low quality." If you consistently release an update every three - four months, to focus on quality, it's never enough content. If you put out a product only when it's ready you're just "milking" your patrons. Any delay, regardless of truth, is always considered milking.

I'd just set up a Patreon and then never communicate again and just release my game there knowing full well it would be stolen.
 

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What is variable for which Louise ask Ian to be his gf. I am playing route where i romance alison but also want to include emma and louise. I know emma is not possible but i just used URM to make it happen. So wondering what is variable for louise. coulnt seem to find it?
 
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I think it could work if Patreon withheld a percentage of their funds until a milestone was achieved. Of course, that would require a regulator in charge, and patreon has thousands of creators which could potentially make the whole process slower.
Patreon isn't really a thing for just game devs though. In fact, I'd argue that the model doesn't really suit it. Since visual artists, podcasters and even journos are on there too.

I'm curious whether other content creators have the same issues though.
 

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How to get Cindy route?
Ian becomes interested in her, accompanies her to Blazer, encourages her, goes to the gallery and shoot with her, goes to Wades birthday (NOT Hollys book fair), pursues and kisses her, accompanies her to the second shoot, takes the love (mustn't be too interested in Lena or Alison) or lust path. To maintain it, usually pick love options, but in chapter 12 pick the wits option over the love option.

In general, Cindy has a lot of wrong choices and she can easily get turned off, so better save scum. Ian can't be too aggressive, but not too passive, either.
 
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Yeah that's true but there are a lot of worse Developers though dog. Eva doesn't stick to deadlines but she is definitely better than most devs and doesn't take advantage of the fans of her games as she does produce content alot more frequently than other devs like pink cakes milking ass.
It's idiotic to set expectation based on "there are worse cases" lol. It's a bottomless pit, based on that we should be content with every damn thing a dev says or does? lol Eva knew beforehand she wouldn't fit the schedule and she still ran with it, it's shady regardless of whether there are "worse devs". Yall gotta stop coddling her.
 
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