VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Yougiblack]

Sharing/NTS path has it been updated ?

 

[stuffygames]

Why do you bring sophistry into this? It doesn't matter what it means to you. What matters is that its one of the most basic narrative tools implemented in the majority of games to great effect. Why do you think most people watch porn if not to associate themselves to the fucking characters on one way or another?

Yeah, not everyone of us mouth breathers has your esteemed taste.

Dude, why are you singling out harem? It's just a variation. There is also collection and conquest, the former which this game goes a bit. The appeal of this game is that Ian has not one, but several love interests which he can pursue depending on the players choice. Whenever one appears, he can potentially bond with them. That has nothing to do with harem.

Holy hell, snowflake mode on eh? You are taking a storytelling theory stance on a simple issue. Not everyone plays games the same way is my whole point, regardless of what you think. If I'm getting this right, you think I shouldn't play any way but the way you think I should, or how the storytelling gods say, and not self-inserting is the wrong way? I'm not ignorant to how storytelling works, but that was never the issue. I'm sure I have self-inserted in my life, but I don't play this or any game I can remember like that, just like I don't watch a movie or play mmos like that, does that make me an enemy of the media state?

My "esteemed taste", wtf does that even mean? Are you telling me that trying to clarify my personal life experience in gaming and vocabulary with my friends and aquaintances is making you feel, what? I have no idea here. You can play whatever and however you want, I believe in you do you.

I didn't compare ORS to a harem game or single it out just because. I was admitting I am not with the majority about that type of game, and illustrating why I don't like harem games, subjectively. I have played them and they are not for me. Futher, the vitriol I have witnessed from the loud, possibly minorty portion of the harem game player base that freaks out when there is even the slightest chance another npc might touch a LI, is strange to me, in a scary way. You cannot be blind to that happening can you? I actually worry about how those people deal with real life issues, like relationships, working, stress, etc. These types of attitudes lead to a number of serious social issues for those individuals and the people around them, and I'm serious here, not making fun.

I am done trying to express a viewpoint on this issue, take from this what you will.

 

[stuffygames]

Sharing/NTS path has it been updated ?

Not sure it ever existed to be updated. No consenual sharing/swinging I could find.

 

[GibboBtw]

It seems that in the future games with male protagonist played by men will be rare and female protagonist games played by men will be common. There's a poll on this site that shows female protagonist games supassed male protagonist by votes. https://f95zone.to/threads/female-protagonist-vs-male-protagonist.23832/ It's peculiar to me because when I was a little girl boys mocked girls for playing with Barbie dolls. Today, men transition into women more via sex change. Times really changed.

I really don't think looking at two different polls, with one having 762 votes and the other having 3500 votes. Is something you should then take as gospel, that FMC games are surpassing MMC games or anything like that, now or in the future.

I mean all you have to do to counter that IMO. Is go and check the "Latest Updates" page on this website, and then arrange it on all time with either Likes, Weighted Ratings or even Views, whatever you like. And then count how many of them are MMC games vs FMC games. It's not even close, MMC games dominate...And as far as I'm aware, will continue to dominate for the forseeable future.

FMC players have always just been a very vocal minority IMO. Just like FemShep players vs BroShep players in Mass Effect. 32% to 68%. And yet, you would have 0 idea that's the case if you browse the internet with how many FemShep stans exist.

 

[Yougiblack]

Not sure it ever existed to be updated. No consenual sharing/swinging I could find.

Hmmm Eric hasnt accepted/enjoyed Lena cucking him ?

 

[link18]

Not sure it ever existed to be updated. No consenual sharing/swinging I could find.

there is the open relationship path and 2 diffrent cuck paths 1 were Ian and Lena are a couple so no Jeremy the other is where Lena is draging Ian along hoes being hoes

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[Gicoo]

Man, if Ivy was a guy, people would despise her.

 

[Yougiblack]

there is the open relationship path and 2 diffrent cuck paths 1 were Ian and Lena are a couple so no Jeremy the other is where Lena is draging Ian along hoes being hoes

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Yeah were they updated and how to navigate them ? Shits too confusing at this point

 

[stuffygames]

there is the open relationship path and 2 diffrent cuck paths 1 were Ian and Lena are a couple so no Jeremy the other is where Lena is draging Ian along hoes being hoes

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Consensual, nothing about the cuck path seems consensual in this! Plus 2 mff 3somes and a teased mmf doesn't make much of a sharing route.

You can get coupled cucked Ian and Lena/Jeremy at Billies if Jeremy hates you! Just can't have Lena/Jeremy before beach episodes.

 

[Tvrzvn]

we ever getting Lena and her dad? like in GGG

 

[stuffygames]

Man, if Ivy was a guy, people would despise her.

She is already kinda despicable, no gender change needed!

 

[link18]

Yeah were they updated and how to navigate them ? Shits too confusing at this point

check the walkthrough in op

we ever getting Lena and her dad? like in GGG

Not happening things have changed a lot over the last decade since GGGB came out. Just a reminder to sign this petition.

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[Gicoo]

She is already kinda despicable, no gender change needed!

Nonsense, she is one of the most popular characters with very dedicated fans, whether to see her with Ian or more lesbian debauchery with Lena and Holly.

 

[stuffygames]

Nonsense, she is one of the most popular characters with very dedicated fans, whether to see her with Ian or more lesbian debauchery with Lena and Holly.

I just don't like her. Cardashians have a huge fanbase, not a fan of them either.

If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say EK's milktruck is piloted by Ivy.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

we ever getting Lena and her dad? like in GGG

Yes, inshallah it is planned for next chapter

 

[Blurpee69]

Man, if Ivy was a guy, people would despise her.

I've despised her since the rework, but I've also despised most of Lena's cast since the rework as well. So whatever I guess.

My attitude towards this game has shifted a lot since the rework in all honesty. I used to like Lena's half of the story and her cast of characters far more. Sure, they all had their faults, but I could at least see a direction that they could have gone.

• Stan being more traditionally nerdy with a potential glow up rather than a simp or incel.
• Louise playing a role similar to Eva from GGGB the "good" lesbian interest or the one you could either corrupt / strengthen her existing relationship,
• Ivy being a slutty party girl archetype; but genuinely caring about Lena, seeing the best in Wade, and having a soft spot for Perry's stutter.
• Axel being similar to Jack / Tyrone aka the key to Lena's fame, just with a darker history to be wary of. I suppose he can still be this, but at this point meh.
• Robert existed. I guess he still does. Actually I think he's the one that improved the most, only because Lena is willing to turn him into a punching bag too now.

I didn't particularly care for Ian or his updates. I found his cast more annoying with less potential. I guess I was closed minded about them, or EK just really stepped up their game, because I find them all to be far more well rounded characters now whereas Lena's cast are much more firmly just tropes.

BlandChili said something in a prior discussion with her that has stuck with me. That Lena's cast is there for the sex while Ian's cast is there more for the romance. Or something to similar effect. I don't believe that is an incorrect assessment, but Ian can slut it up just as much as Lena, if not more. So, this has all been a very long winded way of saying all the potential I saw in Lena's first few chapters has been largely squandered and flanderized down to making them 2D cutouts rather than interesting characters. Whereas Ian's cast had had an opposite journey and have grown into much more 3 dimensional characters.

I won't repeat my thoughts on the ongoing event at Billy's mansion, but it's been lackluster in my opinion outside of the nuclear slut, QoS (not unrelated), and Jess hooking up with Ian options. Which doesn't compare to the beach house. I'll just hold out hope that day 3 will wow me and bring back in.

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

I've despised her since the rework, but I've also despised most of Lena's cast since the rework as well. So whatever I guess.

My attitude towards this game has shifted a lot since the rework in all honesty. I used to like Lena's half of the story and her cast of characters far more. Sure, they all had their faults, but I could at least see a direction that they could have gone.

• Stan being more traditionally nerdy with a potential glow up rather than a simp or incel.
• Louise playing a role similar to Eva from GGGB the "good" lesbian interest or the one you could either corrupt / strengthen her existing relationship,
• Ivy being a slutty party girl archetype; but genuinely caring about Lena, seeing the best in Wade, and having a soft spot for Perry's stutter.
• Axel being similar to Jack / Tyrone aka the key to Lena's fame, just with a darker history to be wary of. I suppose he can still be this, but at this point meh.
• Robert existed. I guess he still does. Actually I think he's the one that improved the most, only because Lena is willing to turn him into a punching bag too now.

I didn't particularly care for Ian or his updates. I found his cast more annoying with less potential. I guess I was closed minded about them, or EK just really stepped up their game, because I find them all to be far more well rounded characters now whereas Lena's cast are much more firmly just tropes.

BlandChili said something in a prior discussion with her that has stuck with me. That Lena's cast is there for the sex while Ian's cast is there more for the romance. Or something to similar effect. I don't believe that is an incorrect assessment, but Ian can slut it up just as much as Lena, if not more. So, this has all been a very long winded way of saying all the potential I saw in Lena's first few chapters has been largely squandered and flanderized down to making them 2D cutouts rather than interesting characters. Whereas Ian's cast had had an opposite journey and have grown into much more 3 dimensional characters.

I won't repeat my thoughts on the ongoing event at Billy's mansion, but it's been lackluster in my opinion outside of the nuclear slut, QoS (not unrelated), and Jess hooking up with Ian options. Which doesn't compare to the beach house. I'll just hold out hope that day 3 will wow me and bring back in.

I will say that Lena's cast of characters don't seem very good. I mean sure there's Holly but that's also an Ian one too. Then there's the possessive redhead, but she's a bit too clingy for a lot of people. And...That's basically it. Every other path is either fucking around, slutting it up or a combination of both.

Ian's paths...Every. Single. One. Has a romance-driven path to go with. Even Miranda who you start off with in a cold war can get more loving and romantic...Jesus!

Ian's able to pursue a more romantic relationship with ALMOST every female character he's introduced! Even with Louise, somehow! I don't know what it is but, I feel like Eva has some sort of bias. Ian gets all the babes, Lena gets all the assholes.

Am I dreaming or does anyone else see it like this?

 

[dolfe67]

Lena's side might be more porny but she can also romance characters even though you may despise them: Axel can be romanced and will have a redemption arc imo, same with (simp) Seymour, Jeremy's is more late and shallower but still, probably Robert too although it must be bland af (never played his route). And there is also Holly.

Needless to say the relationship dynamics for an average guy and for a model chick are quite different

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

Lena's side might be more porny but she can also romance characters even though you may despise them: Axel can be romanced and will have a redemption arc imo, same with (simp) Seymour, Jeremy's is more late and shallower but still, probably Robert too although it must be bland af (never played his route). And there is also Holly.

Needless to say the relationship dynamics for an average guy and for a model chick are quite different

Jeremy's is meant to be shallow, since he's a shallow guy. He's a "I'm fucking around and not gonna settle anytime soon because there's hot babes everywhere" guy. I personally thought that was reflected well, but what do I know.

 

[GibboBtw]

I will say that Lena's cast of characters don't seem very good. I mean sure there's Holly but that's also an Ian one too. Then there's the possessive redhead, but she's a bit too clingy for a lot of people. And...That's basically it. Every other path is either fucking around, slutting it up or a combination of both.

Ian's paths...Every. Single. One. Has a romance-driven path to go with. Even Miranda who you start off with in a cold war can get more loving and romantic...Jesus!

Ian's able to pursue a more romantic relationship with ALMOST every female character he's introduced! Even with Louise, somehow! I don't know what it is but, I feel like Eva has some sort of bias. Ian gets all the babes, Lena gets all the assholes.

Am I dreaming or does anyone else see it like this?

Nah, I agree with you 100%

I genuinely, usually have no idea who to pair Lena with during the playthroughs where I'm trying the other paths for Ian. Like, Cindy/Emma/Allison/Minerva etc etc. It almost entirely ends up being the Holly endgame for Lena, as I find pretty much all of her other options to be rather lacking...

Genuine question for people here. Who do you typically pair her with? If not Ian. Am I just being too harsh on some of these or what?