VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[DatGuy20]

Yes, the sex is generally worth their crazy antics.



Ah yes, a pool party occurs, with the set up of helping the main character enter the industry, there is sex. Both allude to porn industry.

Literally the same set up in both GGGB and ORS here.

Wow, so much different.

Why yes if you remove quite literally all the important details from something that has similarities you can make 2 things sound the same.

You're so intelligent and not at all disingenuous.

If you're wondering why I'm calling him out, here's an example of his logic: if I can describe almost every fruit using the same vague descriptors, they must all be the same thing! A sweet food that's smooth on the outside and soft inside that you can eat with your hands and has seeds. Wow an Apple and a Tomato must be the same thing!

 

[DaLuke2]

I think it's meant to come across as cringy because the path that Lena is undertaking is just not something she would genuinely do. If you look back to Ashley in the GGGB game, you'll equally find moments of cringe and second hand embarrassment. The point is that it shows the character has degraded themselves to such an extent that they end up being beyond saving.

That moment is basically Lena admitting to the players that she's gone beyond the point of no return, she's more and more like Ivy and is beginning to adopt even Ivy's cringy sex moments.

That's how I see it, and it's fair if people call me a 'bad story' defender...But I feel like it makes sense from that point.

Not saying anything about repetitive art though. It makes sense why it would be, even if I don't like it. (It's not done using the typical RenPy models, it's art that has to be drawn and commissioned: way more expensive and way more time spent doing it.)

The key quote in your post is:

"it is not sth that Lena would genuinely do".

That is the EXACT problem.

Everything on the slut path since Chapter 10 sounds fake.

You can turn it around any way you want, the plain truth is that EK just screwed it big time.

 

[GibboBtw]

Never seen that, but I usually turn off the timed choices in the options, might try that and see if it cleans that up.

Well that'll do for now, thanks.

I just now need to be aware that, if I ever turn that option back on and reload this run. Just be prepared for Ian to appear out of nowhere and say "I don't know" and then vanish into the ether on repeat...

Did you save a game in alpha, then continue in the beta version? Bugs like this often occur when loading a alpha save in a beta or final (or beta to final). I always save in final versions to reduce risks of gamebreaking/annoying bugs.

I have no idea when this save originated. But thanks for the tip. I'll remember it in future.

 

[PilotLara]

PilotLara I think I came across a little logic/continuation error that may have slipped through the cracks, as it´s from chapter 7.

During Wade´s birthday party at Blazer, when Ian and Wade find Cindy talking to Axel, Ian monologues about "a tall blonde guy, I had seem him here before, talking to Ivy", and then proceeds to talk to him, as if he doesn´t know who he is.

In this scenario he had in fact already met him twice before, and they were already introduced by name. That evening at the Bar with Jeremy and Jess, where he showed up with Seymour. And later, after the live drawing in Molly´s cafe Ian also talks to Lena about having met her ex and what to do about him. (Lena and Ian are not a couple in this run, if that matters)

While at it, also a small textual error re: the MMA tournament. There´s two occasions where you can let Wen explain the rules. Wen tells you it´s three rounds per fight, and you can win a fight by winning 2 of 3 rounds, KO, etc... but the actual fights are in fact only 2 rounds, right?

I'll investigate

 

[ffive]

He just keeps going...I mean, he's even now just showing up in the next scene where I'm controlling Lena and SAYING THE SAME SHIT.

Clearly a feature for people who complained they don't want whole update only with Lena's PoV and without any Ian.

 

[Logan3000x]

We need a lena cuckqueen path where chad Ian has to fight and get his hoes back after the guilt arc (current arc)

 

[mrcakefrosting]

Does anyone have a save they can share for the sexless cuckold route? Or is there a clear path to end up there?

 

[jduk]

Does anyone have a save they can share for the sexless cuckold route? Or is there a clear path to end up there?

indeed. Can Ian be a cuck for Alison and Holly too? Or only Lena?

 

[robs1234]

indeed. Can Ian be a cuck for Alison and Holly too? Or only Lena?

for Lena only, maybe for Alison in the future, speaking of this, what happened to the satisfying points with Alison, if anyone know until like ep 7 you can take + or - on these points, did it result to something ?

 

[varpep]

Does anyone have a save they can share for the sexless cuckold route? Or is there a clear path to end up there?

It's in one of my saves here. Page 22 I believe.

 

[IlikebeingaDIK]

indeed. Can Ian be a cuck for Alison and Holly too? Or only Lena?

Why stop at that? Can't Ian get cucked by every character in the game?

Where's Lola at?

 

[Ray_D]

For Ian MMA fight, is it better to have mastered grappling or striking, or to have a balance between the two? I've noticed that if I only focus on grappling, then in the fight Ian literally can't do anything standing up lol

For the first fight in the MMA tournament, it's best to master striking. You don't need to master jiu-jitsu, but make sure you have it at least at level 4.

The difference is that with 5 or 6 of kickboxing, you can use counterattacks and finish the fight in the first round.

And with level 5 in jiu-jitsu, you can use this special move.

 

[Lolicon Kami]

I mean... varpep has an entire written guide for the fights and for how to master both Striking and Grappling. Why not just use it?

https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-ch-14-1-3-beta-eva-kiss.48813/post-14497061

Didn't know it existed. Thanks for bringing it up

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

The key quote in your post is:

"it is not sth that Lena would genuinely do".

That is the EXACT problem.

Everything on the slut path since Chapter 10 sounds fake.

You can turn it around any way you want, the plain truth is that EK just screwed it big time.

I mean, it's true though. The plain truth is also that anything Ashley does that's all in on depravity? It's also fake. Because we can easily infer that Ashley would be on the good path. Either with Jess, or her OG loser bf.

Same thing with Lena. It's quite obvious that Lena x Ian loyal lovers path is THE canon path. And it's not just me saying it, it's the way it's written and just how much attention and focus there is on it. There's a reason why it says "Our Red String" and not "My Red String".

Lena acting like a bimbo slut? That's a corrupted and degraded Lena. If you fail to see what I mean, go play GGGB and play through the gang storyline. And tell me how many times that you cringe when you do. You'll see EXACTLY what I mean.

This isn't a "this shit so fake bruh" problem. It's a "I can't accept that Lena would change to this type of behaviour and personality, after I got her to constantly do this type of shit."

I mean hell there was even a Lust unique variant during the vacation chapter where Lena can answer with either Lust, Wits or Charisma depending on her choices and which stats were highest. And guess what? The lust response is CONSISTENT with how she is.

You being mad at EK is just you being mad that Lena is a truly deplorable, despicable slut that's been morally degraded by her environment/people/her choices. And you can't take that.

 

[stuffygames]

I mean, it's true though. The plain truth is also that anything Ashley does that's all in on depravity? It's also fake. Because we can easily infer that Ashley would be on the good path. Either with Jess, or her OG loser bf.

Same thing with Lena. It's quite obvious that Lena x Ian loyal lovers path is THE canon path. And it's not just me saying it, it's the way it's written and just how much attention and focus there is on it. There's a reason why it says "Our Red String" and not "My Red String".

Lena acting like a bimbo slut? That's a corrupted and degraded Lena. If you fail to see what I mean, go play GGGB and play through the gang storyline. And tell me how many times that you cringe when you do. You'll see EXACTLY what I mean.

This isn't a "this shit so fake bruh" problem. It's a "I can't accept that Lena would change to this type of behaviour and personality, after I got her to constantly do this type of shit."

I mean hell there was even a Lust unique variant during the vacation chapter where Lena can answer with either Lust, Wits or Charisma depending on her choices and which stats were highest. And guess what? The lust response is CONSISTENT with how she is.

You being mad at EK is just you being mad that Lena is a truly deplorable, despicable slut that's been morally degraded by her environment/people/her choices. And you can't take that.

Don't slut-shame Lena!!

I recently played GGGB again, a couple times, and avoided the gang route (which I always do cause ya it's cringe), but Ash was slutty, stayed with the boyfriend who came back after being presumed dead, and he wasn't the loser version. Hadn't seen that before, but it shows how many different things can happen on different or mixed paths, which I why I like both games.

 

[silver_serpent]

Hi, new to the game. Does anyone know how many chapters is planned for this game?

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

Hi, new to the game. Does anyone know how many chapters is planned for this game?

No one knows, but it's widely assumed to be 20-22.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

so basically the two models are the only ones who can cuck ian?

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

so basically the two models are the only ones who can cuck ian?

Wait, you mean Cindy? I don't think she necessarily cucks him if they're just fuck buddies. They're not together nor do they explicitly have a relationship that implies 'sex' is expected. Especially since it's basically a non-relationship and they're fucking around. But that's just me.

 

[DaLuke2]

I mean, it's true though. The plain truth is also that anything Ashley does that's all in on depravity? It's also fake. Because we can easily infer that Ashley would be on the good path. Either with Jess, or her OG loser bf.

Same thing with Lena. It's quite obvious that Lena x Ian loyal lovers path is THE canon path. And it's not just me saying it, it's the way it's written and just how much attention and focus there is on it. There's a reason why it says "Our Red String" and not "My Red String".

Lena acting like a bimbo slut? That's a corrupted and degraded Lena. If you fail to see what I mean, go play GGGB and play through the gang storyline. And tell me how many times that you cringe when you do. You'll see EXACTLY what I mean.

This isn't a "this shit so fake bruh" problem. It's a "I can't accept that Lena would change to this type of behaviour and personality, after I got her to constantly do this type of shit."

I mean hell there was even a Lust unique variant during the vacation chapter where Lena can answer with either Lust, Wits or Charisma depending on her choices and which stats were highest. And guess what? The lust response is CONSISTENT with how she is.

You being mad at EK is just you being mad that Lena is a truly deplorable, despicable slut that's been morally degraded by her environment/people/her choices. And you can't take that.

I agree with almost everything you have written there, with one difference though:

To me, you cannot judge Ash and Lena the same way, because:

I see GGGB as a parody.

GGGB is pure genius, if only by the incredible complexity of all the branches.

But, ultimately, GGGB is EK making fun of the porn AVN industry.

So, to me, Ash is a parody character. The archetype of the corrupted FC, to the point of being a clown.

I must say that I don't find GGGB particularly hot. I never fapped on GGGB. However, I find it completely hilarious and super interesting in its complexity.

I have never fapped on GGGB, but I have laughed A LOT playing it.

ORS, conversely, is NOT a parody. ORS is a serious game. A realistic game.

As you say, Ian/Lena romance is cannon. It is beautifully written, pretty realistic, and EK is doing an incredible job at this.

Unfortunately, she has built a lot of other branches that are completely useless and poorly written, and not even that hot.