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ffive

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Possible bug in 14.1.3 > you can reward simp Stan even after forming The Holly Trinity! Maybe should include parameter hollytrinity<2 alongside ian_lena_pure=false
Alternatively, if Seymour can get some action with Lena despite the Trinity, maybe so can Stan. His fans would for sure agree. :whistle::coffee:
 
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Ah Lena, my succubus queen, you are perfection incarnate. You are the center of attention in every group, men are powerless before you and even women can't help but desire you. You possess a kind heart, that is why people want to be around you. They seek your help and they find themselves elevated because of your assistance. Your enemies are insignificant because the most powerful are already under your spell, your victory is already assured. Your beauty, charm and intelligence grow each passing day and soon you will have everything you desire and more.

Chapter 14 is wild, my Lena has already fucked every guy in the mansion plus Ivy. Threesome with Mike and Jeremy was really hot and she is already thinking about next time lol. Ivy is seething with jealousy while Lena is just enjoying herself and already befriended Zarina whom I think is a good girl. What is going to happen on the party day? Can't wait...
 

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100% agreed. This is the main weakness of this otherwise superior game: whilst the romance paths are beautiful, the slut path is very, very poorly written.
Slut path is your generic writing. Aside from good scenes there's nothing to write about. I mean, will you talk about your feelings, fears, hopes and dreams to a one night stand or a casual fling? :KEK:
 
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100% agreed. This is the main weakness of this otherwise superior game: whilst the romance paths are beautiful, the slut path is very, very poorly written.
Perspective issue! :giggle:

Romance players will of course not like the slut path, and vice versa. The romance path is very mushy to me, it's not bad, but typical ego stroking and hearteyes. Slut paths are also typical, what else could they be? Writing is decent to good on both paths with minor ball dropping, overall well written, spectacular if you compare to 95ish+% of other AVNs.

Choice sets this one apart, and also sets the table for disagreements.(y)
 

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Alright, Trigger Warning for those of you who might melt at the sight of a male ass!

Check out the likes on this post in the FanArt thread.

It's Not Gay Sex btw :whistle::coffee:
That's fine. If a chick is licking a dude's ballsack, it's just sexy. If she's licking his asshole (aka rimming), that's a bit freaky (hopefully it's bleached/clean).

BUT! It's just kinky shit and I see nothing wrong with that. It's not everyone's thing lmao.
 
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That's fine. If a chick is licking a dude's ballsack, it's just sexy. If she's licking his asshole (aka rimming), that's a bit freaky (hopefully it's bleached/clean).

BUT! It's just kinky shit and I see nothing wrong with that. It's not everyone's thing lmao.
Agreed.

The point was a certain author also "liked" it, and that certain author barely ever does that, revealing more about their own kinks possibly. The rimming in ORS has so far not been POV, I don't think the ball licking has been either.
 
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Perspective issue! :giggle:

Romance players will of course not like the slut path, and vice versa. The romance path is very mushy to me, it's not bad, but typical ego stroking and hearteyes. Slut paths are also typical, what else could they be? Writing is decent to good on both paths with minor ball dropping, overall well written, spectacular if you compare to 95ish+% of other AVNs.

Choice sets this one apart, and also sets the table for disagreements.(y)
I respectfully disagree and I will explain why:

I do not dislike the principle of a sluth path, not at all. Actually, the slut path was my main playthrough until the club blowjob scene in Chapter 10.

I thought the first ONS with Mike was hot, I thought Lena waking up Jeremy was hot, I thought cheating on Ian with Axel the first time was hot, damn, I even thought sex with Robert after the date with Ian was hot.

To me, there was a turning point on the slut path, one sentence announcing the downfall and EK losing her shit on the slut path, during the toilets blowjob to Mark:

"One more seed I had conquered".

Damn, this was the most ridiculous line in the history of AVNs - until the "gimme ur alpha cock" of the Jack scene that is.

Since then, the slut path has been increasingly boring and mediocre. I wish it had not been. It is.

That said, I do agree that it is poorly written only in absolute terms, but that when you compare it to not just 95% but 99,9% of other AVNs it is still superior.
 

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I respectfully disagree and I will explain why:

I do not dislike the principle of a sluth path, not at all. Actually, the slut path was my main playthrough until the club blowjob scene in Chapter 10.

I thought the first ONS with Mike was hot, I thought Lena waking up Jeremy was hot, I thought cheating on Ian with Axel the first time was hot, damn, I even thought sex with Robert after the date with Ian was hot.

To me, there was a turning point on the slut path, one sentence announcing the downfall and EK losing her shit on the slut path, during the toilets blowjob to Mark:

"One more seed I had conquered".

Damn, this was the most ridiculous line in the history of AVNs - until the "gimme ur alpha cock" of the Jack scene that is.

Since then, the slut path has been increasingly boring and mediocre. I wish it had not been. It is.

That said, I do agree that it is poorly written only in absolute terms, but that when you compare it to not just 95% but 99,9% of other AVNs it is still superior.
Ball dropping, repetitive dialogs (and art), they are in the game, and ruin the mood sometimes for all paths.

I play all the paths to see the differences and the dialog changes, some are very cringe, or maybe they are just not my thing (mostly the humiliation).
 

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I respectfully disagree and I will explain why:

I do not dislike the principle of a sluth path, not at all. Actually, the slut path was my main playthrough until the club blowjob scene in Chapter 10.

I thought the first ONS with Mike was hot, I thought Lena waking up Jeremy was hot, I thought cheating on Ian with Axel the first time was hot, damn, I even thought sex with Robert after the date with Ian was hot.

To me, there was a turning point on the slut path, one sentence announcing the downfall and EK losing her shit on the slut path, during the toilets blowjob to Mark:

"One more seed I had conquered".

Damn, this was the most ridiculous line in the history of AVNs - until the "gimme ur alpha cock" of the Jack scene that is.

Since then, the slut path has been increasingly boring and mediocre. I wish it had not been. It is.

That said, I do agree that it is poorly written only in absolute terms, but that when you compare it to not just 95% but 99,9% of other AVNs it is still superior.
I think it's meant to come across as cringy because the path that Lena is undertaking is just not something she would genuinely do. If you look back to Ashley in the GGGB game, you'll equally find moments of cringe and second hand embarrassment. The point is that it shows the character has degraded themselves to such an extent that they end up being beyond saving.

That moment is basically Lena admitting to the players that she's gone beyond the point of no return, she's more and more like Ivy and is beginning to adopt even Ivy's cringy sex moments.

That's how I see it, and it's fair if people call me a 'bad story' defender...But I feel like it makes sense from that point.

Not saying anything about repetitive art though. It makes sense why it would be, even if I don't like it. (It's not done using the typical RenPy models, it's art that has to be drawn and commissioned: way more expensive and way more time spent doing it.)
 

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Alright, Trigger Warning for those of you who might melt at the sight of a male ass!

Check out the likes on this post in the FanArt thread.

It's Not Gay Sex btw :whistle::coffee:
Someone mentioned a yandere path for Loiuse and I would be 100% on board with it. Completely disrespecting her and triggering a CG like that as chad Ian during their hookup then rudely dropping her on the phone afterwards would be the perfect starting point.
 
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Not saying anything about repetitive art though. It makes sense why it would be, even if I don't like it. (It's not done using the typical RenPy models, it's art that has to be drawn and commissioned: way more expensive and way more time spent doing it.)
From the looks of the FanArt thread, it might be cheaper to hire one of the better artists..? wordsmiths..? Promptsmiths (there we go) to redo the whole game, and go from there. There are a couple who have very consistent art for this game, and it would be possible to get a lot more images than how it is being done now. Plus the speed at which it could be done ofc. I know it's been mentioned and argued about before, we might be approaching the point where a good promptsmith can actually help improve a game rather than just leeching off of it's success (cindy's diaryia).

I like the art style a lot, and that can't be taken away from EK, there are a lot of imitators since GGGB.
 

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The art style is quite good, mainly thanks to the colorist (big improvment from the flat art style of GGGB). But the drawing has a lot of flaws in the CG (the sprites are good), mostly in the faces but also sometimes the positions and proportions of legs/arms/hands.

In the next project using AI would be nice for more diversity in the scenes, the fan art thread has some nice examples. Maybe also improve the speed of dev, not sure if the bottleneck is the art or the writing.
 

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The art style is quite good, mainly thanks to the colorist (big improvment from the flat art style of GGGB). But the drawing has a lot of flaws in the CG (the sprites are good), mostly in the faces but also sometimes the positions and proportions of legs/arms/hands.

In the next project using AI would be nice for more diversity in the scenes, the fan art thread has some nice examples. Maybe also improve the speed of dev, not sure if the bottleneck is the art or the writing.
Agreed.

I think the main bottlenecks are the coding (paths and variations), then the writing (paths and variations), art not as much. If there was A LOT more art, then it might be an issue, which is why good consistent AI art would be a welcome addition to the whole process.

I'm not a fan of AI in general, good artists are hard to come by and AI only makes them more scarce. Improving the art for something like this, where the dev is not an artist by trade is a good example where it could be useful.
 

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Agreed.

I think the main bottlenecks are the coding (paths and variations), then the writing (paths and variations), art not as much. If there was A LOT more art, then it might be an issue, which is why good consistent AI art would be a welcome addition to the whole process.

I'm not a fan of AI in general, good artists are hard to come by and AI only makes them more scarce. Improving the art for something like this, where the dev is not an artist by trade is a good example where it could be useful.
Tbf, you can use AI to add to the art and not replace art all together.

You know how there's tools for developers to use where they allow the AI to 'uplift' textures? Well, I imagine something similar can be done with art. I am not too informed on the ins and hows, but I know there's a way.
 

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Tbf, you can use AI to add to the art and not replace art all together.

You know how there's tools for developers to use where they allow the AI to 'uplift' textures? Well, I imagine something similar can be done with art. I am not too informed on the ins and hows, but I know there's a way.
True, and I'm not sure either. I know you can ask an AI to tell you how to do something in almost any well known software, and even ask it to do it for you if it has access, which is how we all get less intelligent in the end I think.

The ones posting in the FanArt thread are taking art from the game as a start and refining it, then creating new images from that set of instructions. So not much of a leap to just keep doing that :).
 

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(there we go) to redo the whole game, and go from there.
JFC don't even joke about that. It's like year+ of Stan/Billy remakes didn't teach people anything, smh.

I'd also be wary to use the fanart thread as example of some, "vast, untapped possibilities for super-fast art generation". Keep in mind it's effectively a collective result of thousand monkeys from all over the intrawebs banging on thousand AI typerwriters so to speak, and yet those results are not only not many, but they're with very few exceptions just some generic images of a (semi) naked woman done roughly in ORS style and somewhat resembling the game's cast, which NGL, just blend together after a page or two of them. That one picture EK liked stands out because unlike pretty much all of them it's about something more than "here's a girl, standing".
 
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