VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

When does he say this? I don't actually recall talking to him after the beach chapter.

He says it before, when he and Lena meet at the club during Lena's work there. While you could make a point that this was before the sea trip photo session and things could've changed since then, Lena doesn't mention this possibility at the start of Ch.14 when she discusses her Axel situation with Ivy, even on paths where Cindy and Wade had a messy breakup. She just tells Ivy that according to Axel he and Cindy aren't sleeping together and how this makes Axel's actions even more confusing.

 

[BlandChili]

He says it before, when he and Lena meet at the club during Lena's work there. While you could make a point that this was before the sea trip photo session and things could've changed since then, Lena doesn't mention this possibility at the start of Ch.14 when she discusses her Axel situation with Ivy, even on paths where Cindy and Wade had a messy breakup. She just tells Ivy that according to Axel he and Cindy aren't sleeping together and how this makes Axel's actions even more confusing.

Oh, well I don't really think that means anything then. Axel wasn't having sex with Cindy at the point he said so to Lena, that could have changed by now. I guess we'll have to actually meet him, or Cindy, again with Lena to really find out then.

 

[OneShotLarry]

I wonder if Jack will show up at the Nymph orgy...I mean...party.

 

[Agha]

I wonder if Jack will show up at the Nymph orgy...I mean...party.

Maybe it will Happen

 

[Gicoo]

Interestingly enough on all paths we hear from Axel as Lena that he and Cindy don't have sex, which... on one hand, Axel could be lying for whatever reason, but i'm not sure if there's any real reason for him to do it.

Axel always lying about that would be as simple that he doesn't want to piss off Lena. Telling your ex girlfriend you are still interested in that you fucked a new girl when she confronts you about it is easily a bad move, especially since Cindy has/had a boyfriend and got the wildcat job from him, to the disadvantage of Ivy and possibly Lena.

 

[Lonesdale]

Haven't found any info about it, but is it possible to force enable/click greyed out options in current dialogue? Through console or else? I thought I've saw something like that somewhere, but can't find it now....

 

[DaLuke2]

I think the problem here is that Lena isn't necessarily nothing but an artful, nerdy girl on all her paths. Her songwriting as serious aspirations are just an option (you can define Lena as having many potential goals in life, and songwriting will only really be mentioned down the road if you make it explicit focus) And if you give her Lust background, Lena's aspirations, life path and values turn much more Ivy-like.

To be honest, i also don't really buy this apparent supposed mutual exclusivity of "nerdy girl with interest in artful things can't possibly so openly lust for cock, it's totally not in her character" because, just look around you. There's tons of nerds right here, some with artful aspirations, who are spending their time on what's bordering on obsession with wank material. And some of them are women, too. So i don't think there's really anything in the game that would explicitly oppose the idea that Lena could also be this sort of a multi-faceted person. That she can't possibly be, i don't believe this to be anything more than personal headcanon..?

Ok, two things:

1. Your "Her songwriting as serious aspirations are just an option" is wrong, which means I have now managed to catch you offguard for the second time. Before the meeting with Holly and possibly Ian, her passion for sonwriting IS canon, she insists on it talking to Lola. "not serving coffee or modelling, but writing and playing songs, this is what I really want, you know that Lola right ?" (out of memory). Then, indeed, at Ian's date you have the option "it used to be", but not because she is not interested anymore, but because she fears it is unrealistic. And then, yes, there is the date with Holly, and then you get the option to change the focus, and my point is exactly that: I already find this diversification to be poorly written. The lust option "right now I focus on modelling" is poor, the charisma option of "enjoying life in different ways" us even poorer.

What's even poorer, worse, inconsistent, is that then Holly reminds her that she talked about her passion for songwriting, Lena replies "oh it is just a hobby", while a couple of days before she was telling Lola how songwriting her only passion. = inconsistent and poor.

2. I do not know why I do not manage to make myself understood, so I have no other choice but to repeat myself:

Again, I insist I have no problem with Lena having a lust for cock. My problem is how EK writes this lust for cock. I know I repeat myself but it seems I have to: my problem is not the existence of a slut path, it is the poor writing on this slut path.

As I've written before, actually the slut path was my main playthrough until Chapter 9. But then, at Chapter 10 I surprised myself skipping dialogues and even skipping lewd scenes: = I was bored. This boredom has never left me on the slut path since then.

That's when I discovered the romance path, and realized it was much better written.

I insist: it is not the lust for cock that I dislike, it is the poor writing.

 

[DaLuke2]

I wonder if Jack will show up at the Nymph orgy...I mean...party.

There is a strong chance he will, and that he will be an additional candidate for the MFM.

Tyrone's gang might turn up too, and I can't start to imagine the options then.

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

Before the meeting with Holly and possibly Ian, her passion for sonwriting IS canon, she insists on it talking to Lola.

I didn't know she wanted to write songs for her future son, that's really sweet.

Nah but real talk, the reason why she says it's a "hobby" to others while telling Lola that it's her passion...that's not inconsistent writing. That's just her feeling insecure about it. Lola can't tell her it's not a good idea or that it's silly, she's a cat. But others? They might say things she doesn't want to hear, or they might even demean her. Her insecurity is valid and it's implied without it being in your face.