VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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Ungawa

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Not going to get into the current fist fight but Japanese was brought up and I'd like to take this time to help people learn a bit of Japanese:

ぼくがさきにすきだったのに

ぼくが-> Boku ga (I am)

さきに-> Saki ni (First)

すきだったのに ->Suki datta no ni (Liked you)

Put that together, it's "I liked you at first" with little kanji and basic hiragana.

While I can do more, this is only so people that don't know the language could understand what's being used.

This has been your Japanese hour. Now to go back to unlocking the Rosalind Deal...
 
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Ungawa said:
This has been your Japanese hour. Now to go back to unlocking the Rosalind Deal...
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I haven’t played the updated part yet, due to too many accumulated games that sometimes I don’t have time to finish... I have a feeling that I won’t get to this mfm scene... since that’s what I remember from my playthrough, I just decided to Rosalind myself help, although we'll see what happens, a lot of time has passed...

the only thing I remember is that I saved 2 branches of Hana gf and just a friend :HideThePain:
 
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MAGO-DAG said:
I haven’t played the updated part yet, due to too many accumulated games that sometimes I don’t have time to finish... I have a feeling that I won’t get to this mfm scene... since that’s what I remember from my playthrough, I just decided to Rosalind myself help, although we'll see what happens, a lot of time has passed...

the only thing I remember is that I saved 2 branches of Hana gf and just a friend :HideThePain:
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Well, I had to start over and I'm trying to unlock that deal and make a few changes in gameplay...
 
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ye I had to back track too... I assumed the consequences would be worse, not an awesome threesome... u_u
 
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What does Dr Chuck do to women? I kind of liked him but the conversation with Sophia Lundgren was a bit unsettling though I'm not clear on what's implied.
 
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Ottoeight said:
Everything and everybody in this VN is unsettling. That's why we love it. :sneaky:

Even our favourite bubbly Mina is a little bit... unscrewed.
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Let's say the characters of this game aren't exactly the best option for a marriage. Or maybe is it better say they are the best option for a very bad marriage?
 
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alex13_zen said:
What does Dr Chuck do to women? I kind of liked him but the conversation with Sophia Lundgren was a bit unsettling though I'm not clear on what's implied.
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We do not know exactly currently what Chuck does to women, but it is really BAD! Dalia is truly afraid of Chuck and she is not the only one. Sophia Lundgren, who is amoral and dangerous in her own right, finds Chuck scary. And going by the info we already got from the story so far and the implications of Sophia and chuck´s last conversation, Chuck at least maims them for life, but it is also very possible that he kills them.
Remember, Chuck is visibly sad that he, should he ever win against Sophia at Chess, cannot even leave any lasting damage to her, since she is far too useful.
 
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Turret said:
We do not know exactly currently what Chuck does to women, but it is really BAD! Dalia is truly afraid of Chuck and she is not the only one. Sophia Lundgren, who is amoral and dangerous in her own right, finds Chuck scary. And going by the info we already got from the story so far and the implications of Sophia and chuck´s last conversation, Chuck at least maims them for life, but it is also very possible that he kills them.
Remember, Chuck is visibly sad that he, should he ever win against Sophia at Chess, cannot even leave any lasting damage to her, since she is far too useful.
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Out of curiousity why does everyone assume Chuck physically scars/maims women? He seems more like the type who would break them mentally, leaving them altered for the rest of their lives, insane or just completely afraid of what was once their hobby/passion.

On a different note I think he may have had something to do with MC's mom's past, which is why she is leary of him. Possibly had a change of heart once he realized the MC/Ian friendship and didn't fully finish his initial plans for her(since that could effect Ian while he was young), and also would explain his deal for the job and the way he warned Kat about mind games with the porno.

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About the spoiler.
That is exactly why my Edwin is helping Hana in this new career inside the club.
 
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MoBy28 said:
Out of curiousity why does everyone assume Chuck physically scars/maims women? He seems more like the type who would break them mentally, leaving them altered for the rest of their lives, insane or just completely afraid of what was once their hobby/passion.

On a different note I think he may have had something to do with MC's mom's past, which is why she is leary of him. Possibly had a change of heart once he realized the MC/Ian friendship and didn't fully finish his initial plans for her(since that could effect Ian while he was young), and also would explain his deal for the job and the way he warned Kat about mind games with the porno.

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One type of torture does not exclude the other! I am quite sure that Chuck really likes to play mind "games" and gets off on the mental aspects, but that he also likes to be "hands-on" is mentioned several times. The clearest during the last conversation between him and Sophia. Chuck is clearly disappointed that, should he ever win against Sophia at Chess, he cannot leave lasting damage! to her, since Sophia Lundgren is too useful.
Additionally we have the talk between August and Otto. August is worried that Chuck and Kath are going too far more and more and by how he phrases it, August is also worried about their mental state too. I postulate that several persons in the game, e.g. Kath, underestimate August by a margin. He seems far more observant than many others think he is and he has his priorities straight.

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While I find the idea that Chuck is this evil, mindgame, dangerous guy interesting and somewhat convincing I don't really see it. Everyone is weird, creepy and somewhat evil. Kat is obvious sadist, August the obvious gangster and Chuck the somewhat Wildcard but also the only one with the real double life, without that he would be the regular creep no one what give a second look. This contrasting of the MC and his past with him is what spins these theories imo. Maybe I haven't read the conversation with Sophia careful enough or the talk between the lines somehow slipped past me but I find some interpretations a bit too overblown. But if I'm proven wrong, even better.
 
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Not sure what everyone means about Mina's personality change. Is she not still the same sweet, naive/innocent young girl? Those types are usually the freaks in the bedroom, not always but more often than not in my experience. It never did show any of Ian and her bedroom antics so you don't know if she has changed that way or not.

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Hi!
One type of torture does not exclude the other! I am quite sure that Chuck really likes to play mind "games" and gets off on the mental aspects, but that he also likes to be "hands-on" is mentioned several times. The clearest during the last conversation between him and Sophia. Chuck is clearly disappointed that, should he ever win against Sophia at Chess, he cannot leave lasting damage! to her, since Sophia Lundgren is too useful.
Additionally we have the talk between August and Otto. August is worried that Chuck and Kath are going too far more and more and by how he phrases it, August is also worried about their mental state too. I postulate that several persons in the game, e.g. Kath, underestimate August by a margin. He seems far more observant than many others think he is and he has his priorities straight.

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pv7 said:
While I find the idea that Chuck is this evil, mindgame, dangerous guy interesting and somewhat convincing I don't really see it. Everyone is weird, creepy and somewhat evil. Kat is obvious sadist, August the obvious gangster and Chuck the somewhat Wildcard but also the only one with the real double life, without that he would be the regular creep no one what give a second look. This contrasting of the MC and his past with him is what spins these theories imo. Maybe I haven't read the conversation with Sophia careful enough or the talk between the lines somehow slipped past me but I find some interpretations a bit too overblown. But if I'm proven wrong, even better.
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Kat isn't just a sadist she is a control freak/manipulator. TBH I don't know if I'd really consider her a sadist since she seems to enjoy being cruel and relish destroying people and their lives by any means she deems fitting. A sadist enjoys the pain of others, gets off on it if you will. She goes way beyond that from the point where the game starts and keeps trying to out do herself each week of the contest.
 
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I hate to be this guy, but could you please help me unlock the remaining scenes? I've replayed them 20 times and can't seem to come across them. What conditions must be met?
Rosalind-last (Ian solved her money problems)
Mina-8 (Reject her advances, change you mind)
And the last two from MISC (Be a little understanding and Do what you know you really want to do)
 
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