Ass prefer

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You mean you don't think the Club endings (confirmed to not be all evil) to be side with a physically abusive sadist, a gangster who prefers physical violence, or a murderer who enjoys physically torturing people? :HideThePain:
I remember a scene where we were asked to put a girl who was suspended by her legs with her head in the water. Does this not count as physical violence, or maybe I misunderstood something?
 

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Finished the first playthrough, and OMG it was a ride!

the cliffhanger, though, I'm not sure how it can play out. Felicia already said that she couldn't picture her husband in the club, so it was already foreshadowing that he would, but at the same time it does not really seem consistent with the character. he sleeps around too, and he might have specific kinks and fetishes too, but he has an incredibly beautiful and hot wife that is super open sexually and is able to fulfill any fantasy he could have, even the cheating fantasy. so it is weird that he would not engage with her more than once every few months.
also, once he sees his wife on stage the next weekend, it could be instant divorce, or he could discover his wife "extended" sexual power? would he even try to get her if he understood that she could fulfill him? maybe he already knows she is an incredible sexual partner and he is actually afraid to face that challenge headon ? :D
and in the case of divorce, if you add on top the painting, it will be far too over the top for a "punishment", reaching that deeply into the life outside of the club for a carnation.
or maybe that's the sign that Kathleen is affected by the drug in that way, it makes her take completely idiotic risks and gamble the club's future just to witness more intense suffering and humiliation.
the consequences for Felicia as a character could be interesting as she is the only LI that is still attached to a guy (even if she doesn't like him, she still has to answer to him) opening the door to a true romance path, though it would put her back at the same level as the other two carnations' desperation to win, and she would lose quite a bit of what makes her unique in the competition.
Rose seems to be the last carnation that doesn't have any feelings for MC. she still wants to keep him at arms length, maybe. so she can cut everything about the club from her life once it is all over ? the final image of her last handjob scene had her with a super serious expression when she had a sweet and wholesome expression in the previous image. that thew me off because the meaning of it was not immediately obvious. so i guess it makes sense that she will be the focus of next update. something has to happen before she goes back to her apartment. :)

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I remember a scene where we were asked to put a girl who was suspended by her legs with her head in the water. Does this not count as physical violence, or maybe I misunderstood something?
That was Kath's gift for you and the housegirl knew what will happen.
 

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the fact that she voluntarily does this does not mean that it has ceased to be violence in principle
Is she does it voluntarily, then it cannot, by any meaningful standard, be considered violence.

Whether she does it voluntarily is another matter altogether.
 

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I remember a scene where we were asked to put a girl who was suspended by her legs with her head in the water. Does this not count as physical violence, or maybe I misunderstood something?
I have nothing against your comment. Purely theoretically, such things are not violence, because this is a brothel, and inside the brothel there is perversion, and if we go further inside perverted hobbies, then there are also hard sexual cases, but what does that mean? this is bdsm, if you have already entered the threshold of a brothel and are faced with bdsm-style humiliation, is there any point in complaining that “this is violence”? because you have already stepped down this path... everyone likes hard sex and all sorts of bullshit... peace for everyone! :coffee: :HideThePain:
 

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I have nothing against your comment. Purely theoretically, such things are not violence, because this is a brothel, and inside the brothel there is perversion, and if we go further inside perverted hobbies, then there are also hard sexual cases, but what does that mean? this is bdsm, if you have already entered the threshold of a brothel and are faced with bdsm-style humiliation, is there any point in complaining that “this is violence”? because you have already stepped down this path... everyone likes hard sex and all sorts of bullshit... peace for everyone! :coffee: :HideThePain:
Pashol nahui 4ort ;)
 

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You mean you don't think the Club endings (confirmed to not be all evil) to be side with a physically abusive sadist, a gangster who prefers physical violence, or a murderer who enjoys physically torturing people? :HideThePain:
Just because the MC winds up sticking with the Club doesn't necessarily mean he's also sticking with the current owners or their various agendas. It seems very likely the Club is going to be changing soon, one way or the other.

That said, I agree that Chuck doesn't seem like the sort to resort to something as crude as physical violence, much less murder. Turret may think Chuck looks heartbroken that he's not allowed to inflict permanent harm on Sophia, but I see no sign of that. To me, he seems perfectly fine with the situation and is mentioning it purely to taunt Sophia about how her nominal immunity won't actually protect her from whatever Chuck has in mind.
 

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I'm going to wait to weigh in on the faction battles but that's quite important in trying to decide a future...

And I do have a view of Chuck that his background is very dark which gives him a LOT to hide behind his mask while Kathleen is much more upfront about what she does with her Diet Coke of EEEEVIL...

Almost finished unlocking while I'm doing the Rosalind Deal again... *sigh* (Can't believe I saved over that last time...)
 
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Just because the MC winds up sticking with the Club doesn't necessarily mean he's also sticking with the current owners or their various agendas. It seems very likely the Club is going to be changing soon, one way or the other.
Exactly! By the currently available information we have, from the current leaders only and maybe(!) August has a chance to remain in a leadership position after the big bang if we play a goodish, even neutral, Edwin. Since for August PC is a business, as long as the good money comes in, he is ok with the situation.
And the day of change will come sooner than later! Kath has made the starting move of her powerplay with inviting Elias. I am sure she has NOT informed Chuck and August about this, because they would veto it for different reasons, but veto it.
We also know that Abel and Sophia are waiting to make their own move, since these two have plans of their own with what should happen at PC.

That said, I agree that Chuck doesn't seem like the sort to resort to something as crude as physical violence, much less murder. Turret may think Chuck looks heartbroken that he's not allowed to inflict permanent harm on Sophia, but I see no sign of that. To me, he seems perfectly fine with the situation and is mentioning it purely to taunt Sophia about how her nominal immunity won't actually protect her from whatever Chuck has in mind.
I agree that Chuck is taunting or trying to taunt Sophia here, but I also think he is disappointed (not heartbroken that is too strong) he cannot leave lasting harm. It is the combination of the info we have currently why I think Chuck can be quite "hands on" if he wants to. While he enjoys the mental aspects more, the pysical is not unimportant. Chuck is very much about control and loss of control!
 

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Okay, I'm done catching up. Last time I played was... the run-up to the second exhibition, I think? Thereabouts.

It's a pretty big chunk of content, and I can't be bothered to organize all my thoughts right now, much less type them out, so I'll just comment on a couple of personal high points.

Rosa - Didn't care for her before playing this portion of the game at all. Neither sexually, nor as a character. A couple scenes worth of interactions with the MC and Ian turned her from what I felt was a pretty flat trope into a character I actually want to know more about. Still don't want to fuck my mom.

Fel - I liked her before, and I like her even more now. Her personal moments were predictable in this, but that's because she was very well set up as a character beforehand. And even when predictable, they still felt genuine and heartfelt. It's easy to turn moments of emotional vulnerability into self masturbatory experience for the player, Bioware style, where the secondary character starts to exist solely for the protagonist to solve all their problems simply by existing. But Fel remains her own person throughout the sequence. Props for that.

The threesome with blondie was really, really weird, in a positive way. I might write more on that later.

Veronica - yeah, probably the high point of the update for me. I was predisposed to like her before, but the date sequence was... something else. Discovering what I can only describe as a melancholic old soul right from a Conrad novel underneath an attack dog personality she was projecting before was a bit of an experience, especially since I can personally relate to those late night moments of crystal clarity fuelled by alcohol, exhaustion and the presence of someone who seem to just know you. It's a heady combination that can turn anyone into a poet and a priest. The really hot sex didn't hurt either. Most of my thoughts relating to this sequence aren't properly structured, but I do know one thing. I really fucking liked it.

There's a bunch of other neat stuff - the big picture plot with the labs, Chuck's development, the missing kid. I liked it all, but I'm sure it's been talked to death already so I'll skip those parts.
 
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