If you would take off your XL-size blinkers for just a second and read my earlier post about Chuck and why he is a torturer, maybe murderer then you see that it does not matter if Sophia is a good, neutral or bad person, the information gained from their conversation is! And this information makes it clear that Chuck broke and maimed at least 3 women for life, maybe even killed them, getting off on it!
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I don't think Chuck is a torturer or murderer. Not him personally at least. Lasting damage could "just" be mental damage.
I don't think Chuck tortures or murders. or at least not in the primary sense of the words. the game is all about kinks and fetishes, anything sexual. Warren is already the one that likes to inflict wounds during sex. Chuck doing the same does not make sense and is not necessary.
It's more likely that he enjoys breaking women mentally. with a bet that says if he ever wins, they let him do whatever he wants without limit. it's still a porn game, so he most likely breaks them through some kind of extreme sexual pleasure without giving them rest. he probably likes imprinting himself on his "victims" that way, and making them unable to enjoy sex normally ever again.
the "lasting damage" comment to Sophia, I think Chuck means Sophia is so formidable that she would recover from what he'd do to her. it's not about him sparing her. he gives a speech to MC about control. so he probably completely lets go of any control once he wins a bet. and that's probably why Sophia and Kathleen think the drug and perfume don't work on Chuck. I think it actually works, but he stores all the horniness and sexual frustration under his absolute control up until he lets it all go. the fact that they tested the perfume on him might make it worst for his next victim
Leaving lasting mental damage is also a type of torture, I am afraid. You do not need to use e.g. whips or an Iron Maiden to be a torturer.
While you have made an interesting theory, I fear it does not fit at alwith some other information we can gain. Dalia for instance, is totally afraid of Chuck, in a way she is not of Kath, August or Warren to name a few. August worries about about Kath and Chuck´s mental state and that their actions become worse all the time. Kath and Chuck share the same nasty disposition, they simply act them out differently. Chuck is disdainful of most people not sharing his views. It is heavily implied in the conversation between Chuck and Sophia that his victims are maimed for life or dead.(and you can maim or kill mentally, if nothing remains of the personality, just an empty hull) And this is not all we can learn about Chuck and that there is a darkness lurking behind his jovial facade.I don't think Chuck tortures or murders. or at least not in the primary sense of the words. the game is all about kinks and fetishes, anything sexual. Warren is already the one that likes to inflict wounds during sex. Chuck doing the same does not make sense and is not necessary.
It's more likely that he enjoys breaking women mentally. with a bet that says if he ever wins, they let him do whatever he wants without limit. it's still a porn game, so he most likely breaks them through some kind of extreme sexual pleasure without giving them rest. he probably likes imprinting himself on his "victims" that way, and making them unable to enjoy sex normally ever again.
the "lasting damage" comment to Sophia, I think Chuck means Sophia is so formidable that she would recover from what he'd do to her. it's not about him sparing her. he gives a speech to MC about control. so he probably completely lets go of any control once he wins a bet. and that's probably why Sophia and Kathleen think the drug and perfume don't work on Chuck. I think it actually works, but he stores all the horniness and sexual frustration under his absolute control up until he lets it all go. the fact that they tested the perfume on him might make it worst for his next victim
Pardon me, but I find it very unlikely to think Chuck gives out some kind of extreme sexual pleasure since we gain so much information to the contrary.
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A titfuck in this outfit would be divine.
Finished the first playthrough, and OMG it was a ride!
the cliffhanger, though, I'm not sure how it can play out. Felicia already said that she couldn't picture her husband in the club, so it was already foreshadowing that he would, but at the same time it does not really seem consistent with the character. he sleeps around too, and he might have specific kinks and fetishes too, but he has an incredibly beautiful and hot wife that is super open sexually and is able to fulfill any fantasy he could have, even the cheating fantasy. so it is weird that he would not engage with her more than once every few months.
also, once he sees his wife on stage the next weekend, it could be instant divorce, or he could discover his wife "extended" sexual power? would he even try to get her if he understood that she could fulfill him? maybe he already knows she is an incredible sexual partner and he is actually afraid to face that challenge headon ?
and in the case of divorce, if you add on top the painting, it will be far too over the top for a "punishment", reaching that deeply into the life outside of the club for a carnation.
or maybe that's the sign that Kathleen is affected by the drug in that way, it makes her take completely idiotic risks and gamble the club's future just to witness more intense suffering and humiliation.
the consequences for Felicia as a character could be interesting as she is the only LI that is still attached to a guy (even if she doesn't like him, she still has to answer to him) opening the door to a true romance path, though it would put her back at the same level as the other two carnations' desperation to win, and she would lose quite a bit of what makes her unique in the competition.
Rose seems to be the last carnation that doesn't have any feelings for MC. she still wants to keep him at arms length, maybe. so she can cut everything about the club from her life once it is all over ? the final image of her last handjob scene had her with a super serious expression when she had a sweet and wholesome expression in the previous image. that thew me off because the meaning of it was not immediately obvious. so i guess it makes sense that she will be the focus of next update. something has to happen before she goes back to her apartment.
the cliffhanger, though, I'm not sure how it can play out. Felicia already said that she couldn't picture her husband in the club, so it was already foreshadowing that he would, but at the same time it does not really seem consistent with the character. he sleeps around too, and he might have specific kinks and fetishes too, but he has an incredibly beautiful and hot wife that is super open sexually and is able to fulfill any fantasy he could have, even the cheating fantasy. so it is weird that he would not engage with her more than once every few months.
also, once he sees his wife on stage the next weekend, it could be instant divorce, or he could discover his wife "extended" sexual power? would he even try to get her if he understood that she could fulfill him? maybe he already knows she is an incredible sexual partner and he is actually afraid to face that challenge headon ?
and in the case of divorce, if you add on top the painting, it will be far too over the top for a "punishment", reaching that deeply into the life outside of the club for a carnation.
or maybe that's the sign that Kathleen is affected by the drug in that way, it makes her take completely idiotic risks and gamble the club's future just to witness more intense suffering and humiliation.
the consequences for Felicia as a character could be interesting as she is the only LI that is still attached to a guy (even if she doesn't like him, she still has to answer to him) opening the door to a true romance path, though it would put her back at the same level as the other two carnations' desperation to win, and she would lose quite a bit of what makes her unique in the competition.
Rose seems to be the last carnation that doesn't have any feelings for MC. she still wants to keep him at arms length, maybe. so she can cut everything about the club from her life once it is all over ? the final image of her last handjob scene had her with a super serious expression when she had a sweet and wholesome expression in the previous image. that thew me off because the meaning of it was not immediately obvious. so i guess it makes sense that she will be the focus of next update. something has to happen before she goes back to her apartment.
you bring good points, and i would agree with you if it was any other medium. but it's an AVN, and it has avoided physical violence as much as it could up until now even if it is mentioned and suggested. it's all about letting go of all inhibition here, so I'll limit it to that for Chuck until we see anything substantial.
You mean you don't think the Club endings (confirmed to not be all evil) to be side with a physically abusive sadist, a gangster who prefers physical violence, or a murderer who enjoys physically torturing people?
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I remember a scene where we were asked to put a girl who was suspended by her legs with her head in the water. Does this not count as physical violence, or maybe I misunderstood something?You mean you don't think the Club endings (confirmed to not be all evil) to be side with a physically abusive sadist, a gangster who prefers physical violence, or a murderer who enjoys physically torturing people?
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Finished the first playthrough, and OMG it was a ride!
the cliffhanger, though, I'm not sure how it can play out. Felicia already said that she couldn't picture her husband in the club, so it was already foreshadowing that he would, but at the same time it does not really seem consistent with the character. he sleeps around too, and he might have specific kinks and fetishes too, but he has an incredibly beautiful and hot wife that is super open sexually and is able to fulfill any fantasy he could have, even the cheating fantasy. so it is weird that he would not engage with her more than once every few months.
also, once he sees his wife on stage the next weekend, it could be instant divorce, or he could discover his wife "extended" sexual power? would he even try to get her if he understood that she could fulfill him? maybe he already knows she is an incredible sexual partner and he is actually afraid to face that challenge headon ?
and in the case of divorce, if you add on top the painting, it will be far too over the top for a "punishment", reaching that deeply into the life outside of the club for a carnation.
or maybe that's the sign that Kathleen is affected by the drug in that way, it makes her take completely idiotic risks and gamble the club's future just to witness more intense suffering and humiliation.
the consequences for Felicia as a character could be interesting as she is the only LI that is still attached to a guy (even if she doesn't like him, she still has to answer to him) opening the door to a true romance path, though it would put her back at the same level as the other two carnations' desperation to win, and she would lose quite a bit of what makes her unique in the competition.
Rose seems to be the last carnation that doesn't have any feelings for MC. she still wants to keep him at arms length, maybe. so she can cut everything about the club from her life once it is all over ? the final image of her last handjob scene had her with a super serious expression when she had a sweet and wholesome expression in the previous image. that thew me off because the meaning of it was not immediately obvious. so i guess it makes sense that she will be the focus of next update. something has to happen before she goes back to her apartment.
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the fact that she voluntarily does this does not mean that it has ceased to be violence in principle
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Is she does it voluntarily, then it cannot, by any meaningful standard, be considered violence.
Whether she does it voluntarily is another matter altogether.
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it's pretty much a more hardcore form of erotic asphyxiation. It was done with the consent of the girl in a safe way, so I don't think it constitutes as violence
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Self-harm is almost always compulsive, so yes, I'd say it qualifies as violence.
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It's violence sure but what's your point? It's consenting, it's called BDSM
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I have nothing against your comment. Purely theoretically, such things are not violence, because this is a brothel, and inside the brothel there is perversion, and if we go further inside perverted hobbies, then there are also hard sexual cases, but what does that mean? this is bdsm, if you have already entered the threshold of a brothel and are faced with bdsm-style humiliation, is there any point in complaining that “this is violence”? because you have already stepped down this path... everyone likes hard sex and all sorts of bullshit... peace for everyone!
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Pashol nahui 4ortI have nothing against your comment. Purely theoretically, such things are not violence, because this is a brothel, and inside the brothel there is perversion, and if we go further inside perverted hobbies, then there are also hard sexual cases, but what does that mean? this is bdsm, if you have already entered the threshold of a brothel and are faced with bdsm-style humiliation, is there any point in complaining that “this is violence”? because you have already stepped down this path... everyone likes hard sex and all sorts of bullshit... peace for everyone!