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VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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Gorainu

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Estius said:
Considering he just joined the club, he's about to get one hell of a show. Seems the marriage is all but over unless there's some plot twist we don't know about.
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the plot twist is probably some nightingale (blackmailing material on her husband kept at hand) if she is not dumb.

So that they end up in a MAD situation, leaving time for her to find a way out (be it the club if she wins, the MC on a love route, or probaly another rich guy on a losing route)
 
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Gorainu said:
the plot twist is probably some nightingale (blackmailing material on her husband kept at hand) if she is not dumb.

So that they end up in a MAD situation, leaving time for her to find a way out (be it the club if she wins, the MC on a love route, or probaly another rich guy on a losing route)
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Yeah, could be. I'm wondering if it was set up by someone at the club to sabotage her chances at winning.
 
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Simpgor

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labmouseblues said:
Simply exposing Fel doesn't feel like something Kathleen would do. I imagine she plans to see how far she can push Fel under the threat of revealing her presence in the club to her husband. Low light conditions, masks, and a merry-go-round cattle prod type of deal.
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"Hell Week" (this ones "theme" iirc) doesn't really give too many concrete hints but IMO (100% personally) that doesn't sound like an eyes wide shut masked up type of affair. There's also the whole "carnations walk around" before the show and the fact that anybody could offhand mention Felicia :KEK:, that last one can definitely be written around by just saying "nobody said her name before the show"
 
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labmouseblues said:
Not to step on anyone's authorial intent, but isn't the trophy wife gold digger slut persona a facade, in the sense that she technically might be one, but she intentionally presents herself within the confines of the club as only that, when she's clearly so much more?
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Sure, and she's selective on what parts she presents to people, as everyone in life does.

I meant more to dissuade the notion that she's only a hedonistic super ho because no one has ever loved her or some crap like that.
 
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labmouseblues said:
Simply exposing Fel doesn't feel like something Kathleen would do. I imagine she plans to see how far she can push Fel under the threat of revealing her presence in the club to her husband. Low light conditions, masks, and a merry-go-round cattle prod type of deal.
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It's not just about exposing Felicia. She is bringing an unknowing husband(at least as far as we know) into the clubs folds. She is pretty much giving a choice if Fel finds out before hand of ruining her marriage/life or winning the competition. Fel is in the competition to become independant or at least less dependant on her husband. As far as her husband finding out, that's a given since half the people there are jealous or have a serious disdain for him and would love to see him embarassed. Just about all the clients know exactly who she is and who her husband is. This is one reason I said it seems Kat is going a bit too far with the contest by involving her outside life this time. Now think about it for a second, your a rich and powerful man who was just humiliated/ embarassed in front of "peers" by this club. They knew who she was, what she is doing and chose to bring you in to "surprise" you in front of others. I'd be not only pissed at my wife but also looking for some payback against the ones who humiliated me like that (the club). Also not sure if Kat still got the painting from the art show or not and how that will come into play.

Could be a possible path choice here for the MC, tell Fel ahead of time so she can figure out what to do (possible love path) or let it play out and see what happens (other paths). Of course that is if he finds out ahead of time, it may be a surprise for him as well. There are soo many possibilities coming up that no matter what happens or which way it goes I'm just buckling up my seatbelt and preparing for one helluva ride :D
 
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Turret said:
The thing about Grace (Ian´s Mom) is that we not only have Edwin´s impression that she is not a good parent and a really cold and distant person, we get this information from several independent sources throughout the story. We also can compare with other aloof characters. Hell, even Kath and Sophia are less distant than Grace! It says much when both the most sadist and the most eccentric character in the game are less cold and think higher of the MC than Grace ever did!
Read a bit between the lines. While for Kath and Sophia Edwin might currently be mostly a useful pawn, you can get closer to them and maybe more in later chapters. Grace considers Edwin scum and this is an opinion she had for many years. What a "nice" person Grace is. Edwin is/was the only true friend Ian had throughout school and Viktoria was more a mom for him than Grace ever was.
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Also consider that Grace might be aware of Victoria's history and look down on her over it and also hate MC for being Victoria's son.
 
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Glad to hear that Felicia's character development is not going down the road of the cliche whore-to-wife pipeline through the "power of love and MC's special dick". Things are fine as they are and she would also be a fantastic choice for taking over the club and leading it into a new future. Even though I don't really view Kathleen as a baddie villainess in the story per say, but she is indeed the darker version of a whore stereotype. Felicia could be the light version.

If she takes over and opens up a wider proper auditioning process, who knows maybe it can open up a possibility for Victoria joining as a carnation under new less abusive regime. I can picture it already, MC becoming a doctor and a patron of the club coming to the exhibition with his love-interest-of-choice to see his mother perform, paralleling the opening scene of the game where he is in his room watching his moms porn video, pondering the same question but this time he's not alone with it and there's an air of acceptance. (sorry if I spoiled the ending)
 
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Axeleen

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Hey there, has there been news of the work done since the last update in order to get a (admittedly very) rough overview of the time of year when the next update will drop ? I can't find anything here
 
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PapaChulo said:
Also consider that Grace might be aware of Victoria's history and look down on her over it and also hate MC for being Victoria's son.
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You are imagining things and you should stick with what the characters say and do and how they act.

According to what Edwin thinks and Ian says, she didn't hate him: she just looked down on him - most likely because his family wasn't wealthy as Ian's.

Now she definitely holds Edwin in higher regards than her own son.

We know NOTHING of what Ian's mom knows and thinks about Victoria.
 
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lustforsex

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Does anyone have the same problem that animations are not played quite smoothly? Especially when you move the cursor over the quick menu. This is not the first Ren'Py game where I noticed this. For example in the second season of BaD in episodes 7-8 the game performance clearly drops although as far as I remember there were no problems with the animations.

There are no problems with PC performance. I can play AAA games on medium-high settings at 60-120 fps.
Render DirectX, tried to use OpenGL but didn’t notice much difference. Everything is very bad on Software render (not surprising).
 
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dollarlnwza said:
Any recommendations for games like this? I have already played Deviant Anomalies, Eternum, Dark Magic, and Ripple
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i don't know what you mean by "games like this" cuz you gotta specify but I was looking too, and my answer is no. This game is one of a kind.

Elements you like on this in other games sure, but that's why you gotta specify
 
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