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Not lesbian, she's bisexualShame.The only red-haired girl in the game is not the smartest person lesbian of unnaturally large stature which can be romanced. What a joke....
Not lesbian, she's bisexualShame.The only red-haired girl in the game is not the smartest person lesbian of unnaturally large stature which can be romanced. What a joke....
All women bisexualNot lesbian, she's bisexual
Veronica openly says to the MC that the last few weeks have been hard on her and she has been picking up more random women at the bar for fun than usualI hope not, because Veronica absolutely lacking professional boundaries and acting like old creep (while being completely oblivious how comes some customers drop her gym like hot potato after initial visit) is one of the least favorite aspects of that character for me.
She needs a smack upside the head regarding that instead of enabling her further. Unfortunately, Edwin would need to find a ladder to pull that off.
My point is that her behavior can be very much contributing to why the gym is falling. It doesn't need to be "women only" gym to scare away women who come to the gym to workout, only to find out the owner is a creep who can't keep her hands to herself.it would have been an issue if she was running a womens only gym but her gym is failing as it is
If you're referring to my post then it's not about horniness and promiscuity per se, but about what's effectively harassment and abuse of power. I don't think anyone would excuse "horniness and promiscuity" of a male gym owner harassing his customers and by the same token i don't see any reason to give Veronica a pass in this regard. Especially when it may be negatively affecting her own situation and she's either unable or unwilling to recognize it.In a story filled with abusive sadism, it seems odd to see people being so down on a character for horniness and promiscuity.
It's been a while since I've played but I don't think V has ever been shown as doing anything inappropriate while coaching anyone. Can you show where it was said that she hits on her clients or anything similar? Just because she's bi doesn't mean she's a creep.If you're referring to my post then it's not about horniness and promiscuity per se, but about what's effectively harassment and abuse of power. I don't think anyone would excuse "horniness and promiscuity" of a male gym owner harassing his customers and by the same token i don't see any reason to give Veronica a pass in this regard. Especially when it may be negatively affecting her own situation and she's either unable or unwilling to recognize it.
She's all over Mina the moment you bring her to the gym, to the point where even Edwin comments on it internally and can either use it for his goals, or to interrupt it.It's been a while since I've played but I don't think V has ever been shown as doing anything inappropriate while coaching anyone. Can you show where it was said that she hits on her clients or anything similar? Just because she's bi doesn't mean she's a creep.
Honestly I know she's attracted to Mina but I've always seen that as the game hinting at using the gym scene to increase Mina's bi points and eventually the possibility of setting the two up. Is there anything besides that one scene to even hint that she is inappropriate because that seems to go against the established character? I doubt it because that's one of the reasons she dislikes Samson so much.She's all over Mina the moment you bring her to the gym, to the point where even Edwin comments on it internally and can either use it for his goals, or to interrupt it.
I wasn't referring to any one post in particular, and thank you for expounding on what you meant.If you're referring to my post then it's not about horniness and promiscuity per se, but about what's effectively harassment and abuse of power. I don't think anyone would excuse "horniness and promiscuity" of a male gym owner harassing his customers and by the same token i don't see any reason to give Veronica a pass in this regard. Especially when it may be negatively affecting her own situation and she's either unable or unwilling to recognize it.
This is from the player's detached point of view, but the very possibility is there because of Veronica's unprofessional and forward behavior. There would simply be no such effect if she behaved professionally.Honestly I know she's attracted to Mina but I've always seen that as the game hinting at using the gym scene to increase Mina's bi points and eventually the possibility of setting the two up.
Why do you think any of this is going against Veronica's established character? From the very beginning of the game she's consistently shown as a person who will aggressively pursue women she's got sexual interest in. She mentions it herself it's her regular behavior on more than one occasion.Is there anything besides that one scene to even hint that she is inappropriate because that seems to go against the established character?
Right, i'm sure it is completely professional and within bounds to "assist" your first-time customer with stretching in this manner:I'm unfamiliar with what you're talking about, however. I do remember Veronica having an obvious interest in Mina, but nothing she did during the gym visit scene seemed inappropriate or out of bounds.
It's been a while since, so there could be something I'm missing; simply do not remember anything of the sort, either implicitly or overtly.
Interesting. I don't remember this from the gym scene at all. Thank you for showing to what you were referring.Right, i'm sure it is completely professional and within bounds to "assist" your first-time customer with stretching in this manner:
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IIRC you have option there for Edwin to interrupt and ask Veronica to assist him instead. I'd guess perhaps you've picked it and thus avoided things escalating like that..?Interesting. I don't remember this from the gym scene at all. Thank you for showing to what you were referring.
That would indeed be inappropriate outside of being in a relationship with that individual.
Wonder why it is I don't remember seeing this scene, or any other, with Veronica doing anything even similar.
Perhaps it is dependent upon the choices that I made while going through the VN, because I feel like that is the first I've seen this.
Huh I can see where your interpretation of inappropriate behavior comes from but i don't think that was the intent of the scene. I still find this is just the devs trying to lay the groundwork for a M/V route. Until we get solid evidence that she's inappropriate with clients I just don't think she'd do something to put her dream buisnesse at risk because she seems like the type of person to know what's inappropriate and how to keep her impulses in check.This is from the player's detached point of view, but the very possibility is there because of Veronica's unprofessional and forward behavior. There would simply be no such effect if she behaved professionally.
Why do you think any of this is going against Veronica's established character? From the very beginning of the game she's consistently shown as a person who will aggressively pursue women she's got sexual interest in. She mentions it herself it's her regular behavior on more than one occasion.
Right, i'm sure it is completely professional and within bounds to "assist" your first-time customer with stretching in this manner:
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Or to decide that they need your continuous hands-on assistance with their stretching in the first place (while leaving your other, also first time customer, pretty much ignored) Just as it is nothing but professional to insist they call you by first name, have them train kegels of all possible things, and engage in in-depth talks about impact of that on having sex (all of that happens on the subsequent visit)
I'd posit if you remember Veronica having obvious interest in Mina, it's because Veronica acts in manner which makes such interest obvious, and which is something actual, professional gym manager shouldn't do.
I mean, this is literally Veronica being inappropriate with a client :vUntil we get solid evidence that she's inappropriate with clients
I think it is probably done to set-up something between her and Mina at some point...maybe?!I mean, this is literally Veronica being inappropriate with a client :v
I get your point about the groundwork for M/V interactions, but it doesn't change the fact that groundwork is done through Veronica being apparently unable or unwilling to control her impulses while at work. I don't see any reason not to extrapolate this behavior, given what we otherwise learn and see when it comes to Veronica -- put it differently, maybe let's turn the approach around and ask ourselves, when do we even see Veronica actually keep her sexual impulses in check? Or is this simply a case of benefit of doubt because "well she's a character that's supposed to be sympathetic and a victim, so she for sure wouldn't"?
I just think this attraction is show so explicitly is due to the possibility that players may have missed that Mina can be into girls. I think the first time this can be shown is during the game for mc's birthday(Mina/Hana) and that can be missed if players pick other options. So I think the devs were just trying to make it extremely obvious that not only can Mina be into girls they were hinting that you could potentially set these two up.I mean, this is literally Veronica being inappropriate with a client :v
I get your point about the groundwork for M/V interactions, but it doesn't change the fact that groundwork is done through Veronica being apparently unable or unwilling to control her impulses while at work. I don't see any reason not to extrapolate this behavior, given what we otherwise learn and see when it comes to Veronica -- put it differently, maybe let's turn the approach around and ask ourselves, when do we even see Veronica actually keep her sexual impulses in check? Or is this simply a case of benefit of doubt because "well she's a character that's supposed to be sympathetic and a victim, so she for sure wouldn't"?