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Seriously, why you guys acting like a hag handy isn't a perk of the job?
Can we avoid jockeying over semantics? Private doesn't necessarily mean limited to only one person, and debating over exact tone Kat used for her request is similarly pointless.
- Kat doesn't ask. She tells people to do things, gives orders, and punishments when people don't do what she says.
- Doing something like that in front of an audience, even a small one, means it wasn't private.
It certainly is, because it indicates Edwin's duties at the club may extend beyond what he originally thought. At the same time it is apparently not enough of a red flag for Edwin to protest it vigorously, and his, to put it plainly, greed, outweighs his concerns.Regardless of the incentive, that should have been a red flag, especially that early into his time at the club.
IKR. People play porn games and then are like "omg, they demand me to have sex".Seriously, why you guys acting like a hag handy isn't a perk of the job?
I feel like that whenever you get the obligatory 1st release dream sex scene (to show off animations) IMO it being forced in universe is less annoyingIKR. People play porn games and then are like "omg, they demand me to have sex".
If you're talking about the opening scene where there's Edwin, Veronica, and that teacher, then I couldn't. I like to control the situation and not the other way around, so even a lot of money wouldn't force me to do it.She asks him to whip his dick out and jerk off for a bit. In a private setting with few sexy girls. You really think it's that unreasonable that a guy would figure "oh heck, why not" if it meant being paid five figures, even if technically he doesn't need this money desperately? Because i'm pretty sure quite a few would be happy to do that even without such incentive.
Works even better when you consider for some Edwins money can be their primary motivator and something they strongly desire.
It's a good thing we're not reading a story with you as the main character then.If you're talking about the opening scene where there's Edwin, Veronica, and that teacher, then I couldn't. I like to control the situation and not the other way around, so even a lot of money wouldn't force me to do it.
Everyone is the hero of their own storyIt's a good thing we're not reading a story with you as the main character then.
It's not terrible, you just don't like it because devs haven't implemented response you would like them to implement. It's a porn game first and foremost so not having sex when we can goes against the very essence of such games.(...)
That conversation with Kathleen where she suddenly demands that we whip out our dick because we had previously agreed to it was terrible writing because we never once agreed to anything of the sort. (...)
At the very beginning (when we're choosing background and we take money trait) we learn that:(...)
It's not like he lost a bursary that was helping him pay for schooling and had his rent suddenly go up and is now desperate for money. His only complaint was that he didn't like tutoring and wouldn't do it if the pay wasn't so good. (...)
That's not good analogy at all because you're at the interview for the job stage, you're not an accountant yet. Up to the Kathleen telling Edwin to whip his dick out Edwin had only a vague sense of what to expect. During his second encounter with Kathleen she told him:(...)
Imagine you get an office job working as an accountant for a mining company, and one day the boss comes in and tells you that you need to go down into the mines and dig coal with the other workers. You refuse because it's not your job, and he says the it is because you tacitly agreed to do it because you didn't object on moral grounds to all the other people work do the dirty work down there so you must therefore be also willing to do it too. You'd say that was bullshit too, because it is. (...)
For some (most) they do see themselves as the person on screen which explains why "them" getting "their" dick "wet" is more important than pathetic things like story or character setup. It also explains why a something that is forced by the narrative is only bad when it happens to "them" "personally". As well as why they feel the need for (any) MC to be "ULTRA MEGA GIGA CHAD" because clearly they (user with hundreds or thousands of posts on porn piracy form) are such chads. For example Why aren't they complaining about Rose not getting a choice if Edwin wants to take advantage?I'm not a fan of being sexually assaulted IRL either, but the guy that happened to on screen isn't me.
Clearly it's about becoming the greatest, most compassionate, most beloved, and most respected leader of a "workers first" sex club that despite catering to rich "abusive" men mostly somehow stops any of that, all while you have a harem featuring: goth girl who also owns the compassionate sex club, former wife of steel magnate, a silver medal Olympian, a rising model/actress, a gaggle of house girls who obviously love you, a borderline robotic (but really she's a good girl!) genius doctor, your male childhood friend who loves you more than the rest (also owns the club and is ricch), and a single mom i guessThe story is about the less privileged being used by the powerful, and how they'll struggle to get through that situation. It's not a wish fulfillment fantasy about how we become the greatest, most dominant, most beloved, and most respected slave master in the history of underground sex clubs of the rich and famous.
Dang! Even Turret caught a stray in that take. Dude was over there putting his Sophia figurine back in the display case, and bam!For some (most) they do see themselves as the person on screen which explains why "them" getting "their" dick "wet" is more important than pathetic things like story or character setup. It also explains why a something that is forced by the narrative is only bad when it happens to "them" "personally". As well as why they feel the need for (any) MC to be "ULTRA MEGA GIGA CHAD" because clearly they (user with hundreds or thousands of posts on porn piracy form) are such chads. For example Why aren't they complaining about Rose not getting a choice if Edwin wants to take advantage?
Clearly it's about becoming the greatest, most compassionate, most beloved, and most respected leader of a "workers first" sex club that despite catering to rich "abusive" men mostly somehow stops any of that, all while you have a harem featuring: goth girl who also owns the compassionate sex club, former wife of steel magnate, a silver medal Olympian, a rising model/actress, a gaggle of house girls who obviously love you, a borderline robotic (but really she's a good girl!) genius doctor, your male childhood friend who loves you more than the rest (also owns the club and is ricch), and a single mom i guess
I'm swinging at everyone! Nobody is safe!Dang! Even Turret caught a stray in that take. Dude was over there putting his Sophia figurine back in the display case, and bam!
Just like any bleeding heart women-in-peril slash sex worker sympathizer and consent champion, E-guy is going to make some changes around the place. Like introducing extracurricular activities to educate the hoetariat. Making the house girls watch Night Shift with Henry Winkler. Mandatory Dario Argento nights. Rose, you coupon collecting cow, you're going to watch The Killing of a Chinese Bookie and you better like it.Clearly it's about becoming the greatest, most compassionate, most beloved, and most respected leader of a "workers first" sex club that despite catering to rich "abusive" men mostly somehow stops any of that
Beats mandatory Claudio Fragasso nights.Mandatory Dario Argento nights.
Well, one notable difference in your scenario is that I wouldn't be working at a strictly illegal operation where I would have no means of enforcing the letter of my contract beyond my own two fists. Technically, arguing with the mob is an option, but it's a very different prospect from arguing with a generic asshole boss. I mean, I'm normally a fan of unions, but Felicia and Rosalind are absolutely right that it would be a disastrous idea for the Carnations to try starting one.Imagine you get an office job working as an accountant for a mining company, and one day the boss comes in and tells you that you need to go down into the mines and dig coal with the other workers. You refuse because it's not your job, and he says the it is because you tacitly agreed to do it because you didn't object on moral grounds to all the other people work do the dirty work down there so you must therefore be also willing to do it too. You'd say that was bullshit too, because it is.
They tell you what your job description is, then after you reluctantly agree to it, they change the terms of the agreement and then the main character just pretends that they're not lying when they were told that they agreed to do it in a previous conversation that never happened.
What's hypocritical is that he's fine with the girls being ordered to strip and get fucked for money, but the instant HIS junk is mentioned he starts whining. If you're going to sell out, at least own it.Why? What's hypocritical about it? Has he ever said that the other girls there shouldn't be allowed to refuse to do things that they never agreed to do? There's tons of jobs out there that people would never want to do in a million years, but are fine with other people doing them. If you hate the sea and can't stand the smell of fish, is it hypocritical for you to think that other people should be allowed to become fisherman if they want to?
Oh, it clearly is. It's just that perks of this job are all barbed.Seriously, why you guys acting like a hag handy isn't a perk of the job?
To play devil's advocate for a moment, part of the reason they dislike the presentation may be that we DO get a chance to refuse Kat's order, but Edwin gives an extremely lame defense: "I don't... want to."You seem mostly upset that Edwin decides this on his own without asking you, the player, for input. Your expectations of how "intelligent med student" should act simply evidently don't match exactly how Edwin acts, given his background, motivation and personality. But it's not really a reason to call his decision lame just because he behaves in a way you did not expect.
In all seriousness, I really hate it when sexual scenes are forced on the player. There is, however, a big difference between forcing a scene on the player and forcing it on the main character. I can accept the latter as part of the fundamental premise of the game - at least as long as the game is consistent about it. That goes double in the early stages of a game, where we're learning how things work. But when an MC who'd previously deferred to us suddenly decides to bone some girl for no clear reason, it can definitely rankle.IKR. People play porn games and then are like "omg, they demand me to have sex".
To be fair, the MC has no way to recognize Darius in that clip. He would recognize Killian, though, and the implications of that are rather obvious. So your point is still valid. The MC knew full well this wasn't some accounting job by the time Kathleen ordered him to unzip.Besides, Kat telling Edwin about his mother doing porn, her giving him USB drive with filth (where Darius had sex during the exhibition and I could start and finish with just that), her being dressed like she was, flirting with Edwin openly and encouraging him even to look were pretty good indicators of what he might expect when Kathleen said that "WE will interview whores". How the fuck do you interview whores? I would imagine using the tool every man has at his disposal. I don't have to be Sherlock to know that, or do I?
If Rosalind has million fans, then I'm one of them.I'm swinging at everyone! Nobody is safe!
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I didn't mention such obvious things. Edwin surely had recognised Ian who was dressed the same as Darius (and had the same mask) so 2+2=4. Plus, when he first met Kathleen she mentioned that besides Ian there are only old men to look at so I didn't think the need to explain all this.(...)
To be fair, the MC has no way to recognize Darius in that clip. (...)
It's amazing that his mom is the more sultry looking one in this picture, especially that dress.If Rosalind has million fans, then I'm one of them.
If Rosalind has one fan, then I'm THAT ONE.
If Rosalind has no fans, that means I'm dead.
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I hope Kilian fucks the MC's mom in a really degrading and humiliating way.