zonk4411

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Any idea what the prerequisites are for being able to get "[Openness] She can stay as long as she wants" as available for Rosalind in the latest update?
 

testers123456

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Any idea what the prerequisites are for being able to get "[Openness] She can stay as long as she wants" as available for Rosalind in the latest update?
Check the walkthrough pdf file, it's been updated to ch4up5 and has that information in there.

As mentioned by The Senior Perv one of the most asked question in the thread and the answer is: it depends what you mean with get together. If you mean "for fun";) then yes, it will be possible going by the developments so far. If you mean as a fixed relationship, then no. There will come a time where you have to choose your special sweetheart. You can still be friends with others, but you have to choose one of the girls as your special LI.
Did any member of the Mutt and Jeff team actually say there will be no polyamorous relationships? The content so far suggests that it's possible with Mina and Felicia. As for Mina and Hana, Hana may need a little work before it happens due to her past experience. Also, depending on future content it could also lead to Veronica and Mina being in a polyamorous relationship too.
 
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zonk4411

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Got it and many thanks!

Check the walkthrough pdf file, it's been updated to ch4up5 and has that information in there.


Did any member of the Mutt and Jeff team actually say there will be no polyamorous relationships? The content so far suggests that it's possible with Mina and Felicia. As for Mina and Hana, Hana may need a little work before it happens due to her past experience. Also, depending on future content it could also lead to Veronica and Mina being in a polyamorous relationship too.
 

BunnymanGray

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Well F me. Don't know how I did it but I fucked up my saves. Works fine with the old one but when I attempted to copy the saves into the new one I just keep getting errors.

Mostly just been spending my time on and off since I got it on the third slowly getting back to where I had left off.
 

Meiri

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How do you guys think Felicia's story is going to go? Because for the other Carnations things seem to be going better or hinting that a solution is possible, but for her right now seems like everything may end in ruining her husband political chances and a bad divorce...
 

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How do you guys think Felicia's story is going to go? Because for the other Carnations things seem to be going better or hinting that a solution is possible, but for her right now seems like everything may end in ruining her husband political chances and a bad divorce...
Well, she's a very interesting character exactly because of that reason, so far in the story at no point has she been portrayed to the player as someone who will really suffer if she doesn't end up winning the exhibition, yes, she might really want to win in the end, but it's hard to even consider she deserves it more than Rosie or Veronica, the story is probably about to do a 180 on that and put her the same position as the other 2, very likely her whole marriage will go to the dumpster and if she doesn't win the exhibitions she'll be just as screwed as the other Carnations.

I do think that all of that will end up leading to an ending where she can be proud of herself, and not just a trophy wife.

I'm curious on what the "second option" for her will be tho, as we've already been given hints to Edwin being able to help Veronica's gym situation even if she doesn't win, and I'm guessing we'll be able to do the same for the other Carnations too, no idea on how that'll work for Felicia, but it's probably too early to tell anyway.
 
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Ottoeight

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Any idea what the prerequisites are for being able to get "[Openness] She can stay as long as she wants" as available for Rosalind in the latest update?
Bro, I wrote it here - it was yesterday only:

https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15841795



Check the walkthrough pdf file, it's been updated to ch4up5 and has that information in there.


Did any member of the Mutt and Jeff team actually say there will be no polyamorous relationships? The content so far suggests that it's possible with Mina and Felicia. As for Mina and Hana, Hana may need a little work before it happens due to her past experience. Also, depending on future content it could also lead to Veronica and Mina being in a polyamorous relationship too.
Having casual threesomes is NOT a relationship.


How do you guys think Felicia's story is going to go? Because for the other Carnations things seem to be going better or hinting that a solution is possible, but for her right now seems like everything may end in ruining her husband political chances and a bad divorce...
I really can't see how a positive solution is possible for Veronica, at the moment.
 
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Ottoeight

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Well, she's a very interesting character exactly because of that reason, so far in the story at no point has she been portrayed to the player as someone who will really suffer if she doesn't end up winning the exhibition, yes, she might really want to win in the end, but it's hard to even consider she deserves it more than Rosie or Veronica, the story is probably about to do a 180 on that and put her the same position as the other 2, very likely her whole marriage will go to the dumpster and if she doesn't win the exhibitions she'll be just as screwed as the other Carnations.

I do think that all of that will end up leading to an ending where she can be proud of herself, and not just a trophy wife.

I'm curious on what the "second option" for her will be tho, as we've already been given hints to Edwin being able to help Veronica's gym situation even if she doesn't win, and I'm guessing we'll be able to do the same for the other Carnations too, no idea on how that'll work for Felicia, but it's probably too early to tell anyway.
As many us noticed and wrote, this is a dark themed story told in a light tone.

So, why should we presume that we're having happy endings for everybody?

I think we should realise that Edwin, Ian and Hana have no leverage nor power to really help anyone in any way.

And I really can't see how Edwin might be able to help Veronica, and the only thing he has done for her is buying her drinks and fuck her, so far.
 

UmbralKnight

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How do you guys think Felicia's story is going to go? Because for the other Carnations things seem to be going better or hinting that a solution is possible, but for her right now seems like everything may end in ruining her husband political chances and a bad divorce...
i think she might end up becoming another kathy if she becomes a member of the club but all her other paths seem bleak
as we've already been given hints to Edwin being able to help Veronica's gym situation even if she doesn't win
i don't know how the MC is realistically going to fix veronicas issue even if she turns her club into a women only club she is hemorrhaging too much money
I really can't see how a positive solution is possible for Veronica, at the moment.
however i think mina has far better chance of fixin her issue than the MC
mina is pretty famous and she can endorse veronica's gym as her official celebrity sponsor and can even become the "face" of her gym appearing as the advertiser instead of samson
 

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Having "happy" endings only for some love interests would certainly be a bold choice, but not a great one I feel.

And the protagonist isn't really in position to materially help any of the love interests in a direct fashion. Veronica isn't a special case here.

mina is pretty famous
Mina is a minor model and actress, while Samson is presented as the equivalent of Arnie/Sly, or at least Van Damme. If the problem was celebrity cred, there wouldn't be a problem to begin with.
 
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UmbralKnight

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Those guys be running brothel and shit, i wonder why is there no a single keyword of "police" in this game
one of the guys you see in the club is the chief of police and the other one being a judge of some kind so the club is somewhat immune to the local law enforcement but hey who knows maybe someone in the club is already working for some federal agency as an informant
 

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I made a Cheat mod for This Masterpiece game and decided to share it. It's based on Scrappy's CheatMod. So thanks for giving me the green-light to use his cheatmod as a base. And Many thanks to wurg for helping and guiding me.

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Well F me. Don't know how I did it but I fucked up my saves. Works fine with the old one but when I attempted to copy the saves into the new one I just keep getting errors.

Mostly just been spending my time on and off since I got it on the third slowly getting back to where I had left off.
did you use the walkthrough mod or cheat mods? that usually fucks it pretty good sometimes, i managed to get mine working with the cheat mod, and turned on most the stuff traits and stuff, but the walkthrough mod usually is wat kills all the saves with added variables and scene stuff for the game to function
 

Meiri

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Having "happy" endings only for some love interests would certainly be a bold choice, but not a great one I feel.

And the protagonist isn't really in position to materially help any of the love interests in a direct fashion. Veronica isn't a special case here.



Mina is a minor model and actress, while Samson is presented as the equivalent of Arnie/Sly, or at least Van Damme. If the problem was celebrity cred, there wouldn't be a problem to begin with.
Well hard to tell but Veronica situation isn't that bad, she seems to be getting a bit more customers (compared to the firsts weeks at least), Mina position as influencer could help her a bit more and we are aware of the Coach + Samson involvement so I could see Edwin digging some more to stop them or make them pay.

She may not get a happy ending of being successful but at the very least she gets to keep her gym without risk of losing it all.
 

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one of the guys you see in the club is the chief of police and the other one being a judge of some kind so the club is somewhat immune to the local law enforcement but hey who knows maybe someone in the club is already working for some federal agency as an informant
Yeah they seem untouchable, its like a heaven for them, very hard to believe they get away with it for so long, but surely it wont stay this way forever, sooner or later some shit should go down, if not then i think its bad writing imo
 

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Did any member of the Mutt and Jeff team actually say there will be no polyamorous relationships? The content so far suggests that it's possible with Mina and Felicia.
I'm not sure where you get this idea, considering that in order to have deeper relationship with Felicia you need to opt for spending time one-on-one with her, choosing it over casual threesome with Mina (in the latest update Felicia acts noticeably more open if you had your date with her, instead of the threesome) So, no, it's very doubtful you'd be able to have actual polyamorous relationship with the both of them.
 
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Veronica's problem isn't that her gym is failing. Her issue is that she cannot accept failure and is deep inside a sunk-cost fallacy.
Even if she wins the exhibtion and somehow manages to turn her gym profitable, she'd still be miserable. She'll be devastated by finding out she ruined her marriage over a plot designed to ruin her life. She failed to spot that, after all, and Samson succeeded.
Veronica's good ending has to include her overcoming her mental issues and making peace with her ex-wife. The gym is only of secondary importance.
These mental issues are where Edwin can truly help her.

Felicia's good ending imho includes a reopening of the old art school or something equivalent. Either with Felicia as a director, or as primary financial benefactor. Maybe both.
Her marriage will most likely break apart, and I can see her ending up as a house girl in a bad ending. Kathleen replacement in a good one.
Her ending will probably be determined by a mixture of her confidence, the club's state of affairs in the ending, and her relationship with Edwin.

Rose's endings are the simplest I believe.
If her debt is cleared she'll just return to her old job and continue as before. I don't see her entering a relationship with Edwin as anything more than FWB. Any boyfriend of hers would need to be a good stepfather to Nora, and I don't see Rose accepting Edwin in that role, ever.
Bad ending she either has to become a house girl or become Vicky 2.0 and shoot porn with good ol' Donovan.
We all know she'd enjoy the latter.
 

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Yeah they seem untouchable, its like a heaven for them, very hard to believe they get away with it for so long, but surely it wont stay this way forever, sooner or later some shit should go down, if not then i think its bad writing imo
I mean, that's what Abel and Sophia are there for.
Inviting Elias can also very much blow up in the club's face
 
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