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Nah, Hana has tattoos on her left arm and doesn't wear a watch. Sophia has bare skin and does.Bro, that hand is definitely Hana's (unless we have a new character incoming...).
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You seem to have a superficial grasp of the tropes with no appreciation for the execution or subtleties of this specific narrative. Congrats on your neurodiversity diagnosis. Does it feel good to shit on things people like? Trolling is a bad habit.
- Apr 16, 2017
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*ahem*
No.
The issue here is that you're forgetting that stereotypes have to build onto the negative and positive aspects of it in order to feel fully fleshed out. Really bad stereotypes come off as one note and one trick and people will bounce off them if they're handled poorly.
That's a flat character arc. They stay the same no matter what happens in the story.
The characters here are very dynamic in what they do and have highs and lows along with struggles as they interact. So when you write a story, keeping them moving along with the main characters feels more that they have their own struggles going on out of the camera.
X and Y don't like each other. That's because Z was harmed. Fill in the blanks.
August and Chuck don't like each other. That's because Dalia was harmed. Now there's a story.
Hana and Kathleen don't like each other. That's because Harper was harmed. There's another one.
Then you go down the rabbit hole and find out *why* those characters got beef. That makes the story stronger and builds on the writing that came before.
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There's a reason tropes are used, and good writers will take it beyond the basic trope and make it their own. I think this game has done that.
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Tropes are nothing more than plot devices.
And there's
You build those with different ways to do that plus make characters that interact in different ways and that's how stories are formed.
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you can go with.You build those with different ways to do that plus make characters that interact in different ways and that's how stories are formed.
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Beef and relationships dynamics… Kinda falls under the broadstroak of drama that I mentioned does it not?
Unfortunately I have now the same problem in Victoria Scene.
As suggested I´ve tried again to change to OPGl but I still get crashes.
Does anyone have another Idea maybe? I´m sad
I can't get the connection between Vicky and Chuck out of my head. Grace talks about an agreement with awkward chatter between the two.
She doesn't know what it's about and she doesn't care. Since we now know from Chuck that he likes to play games with people in order to break them or achieve his goal with them, it's something I can't get out of my head. He obviously started doing it with Vicky a long time ago.
I noticed during the second run that Vicky reacts unusually to Ian's father.
It seems to me that her reaction is more of a personal one than just some knowledge about him.
There is a lot of information about Vicky that has been mentioned but left open, which will probably be connected later on (and we are supposed to think about it and start speculating in the meantime).
Did she have a bad experience with him, and if so, where and when?
We know that she started making porn in 2009. We generally assume that Edwin was about 12 years old at the time.
We know nothing about the six years between the death of his father and the start of making porn. We also have no time reference for Edwin's statement that she had several jobs at the same time. All we know is that in addition to her porn work, she worked in a bar at night.
Suppose she had started working for Ian's father's company after her husband's death (or 2-3 years later), she didn't know who he was yet. He demands that she wear the outfit and possibly more (for various reasons, secretaries sometimes have sex with their boss)?
(This also fits with the "handsy boss" when we asked about her work at the beginning.)
Here Chuck meets her outside of school. At Grace's, she says she met him a few times, at school and at... (work?)
The moment she finds out about Ian's father, she quits and needs a new source of income.
This would give Chuck knowledge of two of her secrets.
In my opinion, this ties up a few loose threads.
From here, one can speculate further whether Chuck first met her at school or whether he recognized her at school.
Did he "enlighten" her about it?
Does Grace really know everything or just one of the two?
Even a connection to August could be explained in this way.
I'm curious to see if there is interest and, if so, how you take my theory apart or agree with it.
She doesn't know what it's about and she doesn't care. Since we now know from Chuck that he likes to play games with people in order to break them or achieve his goal with them, it's something I can't get out of my head. He obviously started doing it with Vicky a long time ago.
I noticed during the second run that Vicky reacts unusually to Ian's father.
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There is a lot of information about Vicky that has been mentioned but left open, which will probably be connected later on (and we are supposed to think about it and start speculating in the meantime).
Did she have a bad experience with him, and if so, where and when?
We know that she started making porn in 2009. We generally assume that Edwin was about 12 years old at the time.
We know nothing about the six years between the death of his father and the start of making porn. We also have no time reference for Edwin's statement that she had several jobs at the same time. All we know is that in addition to her porn work, she worked in a bar at night.
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Suppose she had started working for Ian's father's company after her husband's death (or 2-3 years later), she didn't know who he was yet. He demands that she wear the outfit and possibly more (for various reasons, secretaries sometimes have sex with their boss)?
(This also fits with the "handsy boss" when we asked about her work at the beginning.)
Here Chuck meets her outside of school. At Grace's, she says she met him a few times, at school and at... (work?)
The moment she finds out about Ian's father, she quits and needs a new source of income.
This would give Chuck knowledge of two of her secrets.
In my opinion, this ties up a few loose threads.
From here, one can speculate further whether Chuck first met her at school or whether he recognized her at school.
Did he "enlighten" her about it?
Does Grace really know everything or just one of the two?
Even a connection to August could be explained in this way.
I'm curious to see if there is interest and, if so, how you take my theory apart or agree with it.
Also, "a surprise house call from a certain beloved character" after mention in the earlier update that "Sophia fans, rest assured you're being seen" was pretty big hint on its own, even if there were no visuals to go with.
I think you're overlooking what's possibly a keyword in that quote:
"used to have occasion to play sexy legal assistant."
Victoria's husband was a lawyer, iirc. A far simpler explanation to this angle (especially in the context of a reply to "you bring that from home?") is that he and Victoria used to have a bit of kinky roleplay in the bedroom, where she was pretending to be his "sexy legal assistant".
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Point for you.
You're making it even worse for me.
She wears the clothes she used to please her husband to the casting for porn films?
Hi! I agree with ename144 here that it is most probably Sophia´s arm we see.
Only three of the major girls in the game use black nailpolish, Hana, Kath and Sophia. Hana´s arms are tattooed and she usually also wears various armbands, which are absent here. Kath is not tattooed, but also wears a gold armband or nothing at all usually.
Sophia is not tattooed and usually wears a watch and it is most probably a watch armband we see in the teaser pic. In addition the shown nails are quite short for a woman, both Hana and Kath have longer fingernails than these. Finally the bit of the top sleeve we can see is grey or black. The only girl beside Hana with a faible for grey and black is Sophia.
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That's a part of the story. No question. What you're specifically getting into is to try to dismiss the characters and not see the parallels of primary, secondary, and tertiary characters. That's what I'm getting into. Sometimes, with examples I pulled earlier, you try an idea on a less focused on character to see how the audience gages it. Veronica likes mousey women. We were told this. In the gym, she was perving on Mina and the girl didn't really notice. Even then, in a recent update, who did you play wingman for if you didn't want to bang her? Veronica.
And now, you have a choice if you have Veronica hit on Mina. That's just one example.
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...wait, the caveman is all caught up?
I'm ONE update behind. ONE! I'm as close to caught up as I can be!
I already have it downloaded and on the old laptop to play. I just got frozen with fear in looking at all the new stuff I have to unlock.
;_;
(... Man, you know it's bad when even the dev knows you're slow...)
Well, If you're together for quite a while with a healthy sex life, almost all your clothes have been involved in pleasing your partner in some way or another. Based on how basic the outfit is I doubt that these were especially bought for sexy times but just adapted from regular wear rotation when she and her husband were having fun. Most clothes used for sexy roleplay are just that, regular clothes.
I'm sorry but: No. Not really. The whole point of this game being more about characters studies, to let them be more then just the most reductive list of character traits. Rather than only being a waifu simulator.
And a great way to do so is offering mirrors and parallels. Lucy, Victoria, Rose can all be condensed to the same shit description: 'mothers who turned to sex work for their kids benefit'
But each of their characters are very different, Lucy is vain and her motives selfish but in her own way non-duplicitous, unable to shield her emotions or her secrets which makes her easy to manipulate, meanwhile Rose is anything but vain, nor are her motives selfish, but guards her emotions and is certainly not above trying to be the manipulator instead.
Victoria has already been discussed in how her character interacts with Rosalinde her arc, but again, her character is still different, them both of them, more grounded, lighter, happier.
in the end none of them are actually merely a stereotypical trope. Even if they can be reduced to such if you just cut away all that makes them their own person. And in the story each character of them and how they act in similar circumstances informs on the other for the player. It tells you who they are, and who they are not. Would I qualify it as high literature? Not really, but it is clearly done for a reason, and for a porn story it's done quite well and enjoyably so.
Now of course, people can differ on if they like that level of character building in a porn story and people can certainly want just "the mom type", "the sporty chick", or the "whore with a heart of gold" or instead "the brunette", "the redhead" or "the blonde" in a harem waifu simulator and be done with it. There isn't anything wrong with that.
Those games are very popular for a reason. But for many the fact that here in this game it's turned into "this specific blonde" instead of just any blonde or "that particular mom type" instead of generic mom type is what makes it stand out. It's the seasoning that makes the dish.
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You're not alone in this regard... I have too many games and sometimes I even forget about them lol, And at the same time I'm too slow. But I'll definitely find time for a new PC update!
Man, I love this game but I am the only one who felt like Hana's GF route was kinda.... lacking?
Like, I love her character and I definitely want to keep on her route but it's kinda disappointing how there is basically no return at all for going into her route as opposed to just remaining fuck buddies. The choice comes really early in the game, so you sacrifice a lot of content from the other girls and yet you get nothing in return. I expected some exclusive gf content, you know? Like going on dates, chilling in the apartment and stuff. Some new content exclusive to the GF Route that makes it worth it picking it over the FB.
And I really hate to say this, but it doesn't really feel worth it to go into her GF route. You basically get the same content going into the FB route and yet you can still play around with the other girls. I truly wish we get some exclusive GF route content in future updates.
Like, I love her character and I definitely want to keep on her route but it's kinda disappointing how there is basically no return at all for going into her route as opposed to just remaining fuck buddies. The choice comes really early in the game, so you sacrifice a lot of content from the other girls and yet you get nothing in return. I expected some exclusive gf content, you know? Like going on dates, chilling in the apartment and stuff. Some new content exclusive to the GF Route that makes it worth it picking it over the FB.
And I really hate to say this, but it doesn't really feel worth it to go into her GF route. You basically get the same content going into the FB route and yet you can still play around with the other girls. I truly wish we get some exclusive GF route content in future updates.