VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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KKpotato

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☆ ～ ♡ ٠ Ichika ٠ ♡ ～☆ said:
Guys, who knows what renpy is, tell me how to disable the save name in the save menu? It really infuriates constantly making unnecessary movements. Why do I need a save name when I have a save picture.
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Unfortunately, you don't have that option in this game. You can't disable it. Just simply click ok if you don't want to name your saves.
 
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I really hope i get to come down on these fuckers like a hammer in the end. This shit is heavy.
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Ozygator

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Simpgor said:
This is the place for that.

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Hmm, good feedback, just finished the second half of the second competition (had not quite done that all yet) and have a few more ideas...

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I have some questions regarding the US american Highschool / College / University / Medical School system.
  1. It looks like as US american pupils (students) graduate from Highschool normally at the age of 18. Is an Highschool graduation diploma required to get into college? Or could a genius 16 yo apply to college also? Can we use pupil and student synonymously, because in my country we would restrict the use of pupil to schools and student to university attendees? Can we conclude Edwin moved out of his and Victorias shared flat, after he graduated from highschool then?
  2. At the time they enter College they are now called 'undergraduates' and aim for a bachelors degree? Is a college graduation needed to apply for Medical School, or does it just help in the application? I am a bit confused, because in my country, one can get all the academic grades starting from bachelor to master to promotion (doctor) to habilitation (professor / assistant professor) at a university, there are no colleges. Does this imply, unless Edwin has not a kind of scholarship or stipend, he is already experiencing significant monetary pressure from his college tuition? We know he had a part time job tutoring 'brats', but i expect this to cover his rent of the old flat and other living expenses (ramen) at best?
  3. Graduating with a bachelors degree from college should take between 2 to 3 years, right? And on top of that there will be like 3 to 4 years of Medical School offering a MD academic degree upon graduation? Plus another several years of postgraduate training and/or residencies after which Edwin is finally able to get a license to actually practice medicine on his own?
In theory (don't know if it's practicable) would Edwin had the option to aim straight for Med School entry after his highschool graduation, thus saving time and money?
 
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selberdreher said:
I have some questions regarding the US american Highschool / College / University / Medical School system.
  1. It looks like as US american pupils (students) graduate from Highschool normally at the age of 18. Is an Highschool graduation diploma required to get into college? Or could a genius 16 yo apply to college also? Can we use pupil and student synonymously, because in my country we would restrict the use of pupil to schools and student to university attendees? Can we conclude Edwin moved out of his and Victorias shared flat, after he graduated from highschool then?
  2. At the time they enter College they are now called 'undergraduates' and aim for a bachelors degree? Is a college graduation needed to apply for Medical School, or does it just help in the application? I am a bit confused, because in my country, one can get all the academic grades starting from bachelor to master to promotion (doctor) to habilitation (professor / assistant professor) at a university, there are no colleges. Does this imply, unless Edwin has not a kind of scholarship or stipend, he is already experiencing significant monetary pressure from his college tuition? We know he had a part time job tutoring 'brats', but i expect this to cover his rent of the old flat and other living expenses (ramen) at best?
  3. Graduating with a bachelors degree from college should take between 2 to 3 years, right? And on top of that there will be like 3 to 4 years of Medical School offering a MD academic degree upon graduation? Plus another several years of postgraduate training and/or residencies after which Edwin is finally able to get a license to actually practice medicine on his own?
In theory (don't know if it's practicable) would Edwin had the option to aim straight for Med School entry after his highschool graduation, thus saving time and money?
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Typically...
1. High School students (no distinction that I know of between students and pupils here) graduate at ~18 years of age in the US. Most all Colleges/Universities require a High School diploma or equivalent. So I suppose a 16 year old could either graduate early or get an 'equivalent' to go on to higher education.

2. Yes, students going for a Bachelors degree are 'undergraduates' - this takes 3-4 years. Med School comes after your Bachelors degree, usually, and it is also about 4 years. So 8 years of schools there... then 3-7 years in some kind of residency for their medical specialty. Edwin would have to pay for most of this, or get grants/scholarships to help pay for it. It will cost a lot!

3. Bachelors degrees take 3-4 years, Medical school is another 3-4 years, then residency for 3-7 years and after that you get to be a Medical Dr. of some sort.

Nope - poor Edwin has to go the whole school route in the US to become a medical Dr. :>)
 
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Hmm, good feedback, just finished the second half of the second competition (had not quite done that all yet) and have a few more ideas...

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Hey ozygator, i think you are sporting some interesting ideas regarding Victorias past, present and future. Since some of those ideas are quite close to mine, i'd like to introduce you to them, namely here and there. You may also want to read the related discussion in this broader section of the thread.

Regarding her porn career, there are some developments i'd like to wait for, respectively have clarified, before i make further assumptions.

Just one because its maybe unrelated to those other porn videos:
in my personal opinion, the last sequence of Victoria during Rosies second exhibition task with Edwin, actually never took place. It's -again, mind you, in my opinion- a glorified and sugarcoated fantasy version in Edwins' mind, with which he processes the act he is doing with Rosie at this very moment in this specific setting (a porn shoot). It helps him to handle that better on an emotional level, if he assumes there were also nice and fun times when his mother was doing it with someone she clicked.

My clues for this opinion are the radical different art style of this scene, which is intentional given GIL3Ds proficiency, the missing time stamp although there is a video frame, and Victorias beautification way beyond her normal looks, to a degree were i didn't recognized her at first and a snippet of conversation between her and her male partner which would normally be rather found in the outtakes or behind the scenes part of a video.

As i said, just my hunch, but i really would be surprised if this happened as shown.
 
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Assuming this takes place in a Baltimore-esqe and he has no scholarships/grants or anything, that was a resident of Maryland/attended high school in Maryland (to get cheaper in state tution), and that he was just going to a "normal" college (stats taken from university of Baltimore 2022) he is still looking at ~$5000 per semester (12 credits aka "full time student") so that is roughly 40k (over the 4 years) just to take all the classes needed for his undergrad. On top of that he would still need to pay for the apartment and any other costs such as food, transportation, entertainment etc.
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Oh well. Siri, please remind me to absolutely refuse to reincarnate in the US no matter what, when the time comes. "University graduate" engineer here, paid zero dollars ever.
 
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Zephea said:
Typically...
1. High School students (no distinction that I know of between students and pupils here) graduate at ~18 years of age in the US. Most all Colleges/Universities require a High School diploma or equivalent. So I suppose a 16 year old could either graduate early or get an 'equivalent' to go on to higher education.

2. Yes, students going for a Bachelors degree are 'undergraduates' - this takes 3-4 years. Med School comes after your Bachelors degree, usually, and it is also about 4 years. So 8 years of schools there... then 3-7 years in some kind of residency for their medical specialty. Edwin would have to pay for most of this, or get grants/scholarships to help pay for it. It will cost a lot!

3. Bachelors degrees take 3-4 years, Medical school is another 3-4 years, then residency for 3-7 years and after that you get to be a Medical Dr. of some sort.

Nope - poor Edwin has to go the whole school route in the US to become a medical Dr. :>)
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Thank you! Much appreciated!:geek:
 
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He is.

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Personally I love the MC as is. He looks like a normal guy - not really a normal mindset though, lets be honest - thrust into an absurd situation. It is really entertaining.

If you made the MC into a douche - as is most common in adult games I find - the story would be bland and suffer from it.
 
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Ozygator said:
Is there a spoiler/guesses thread, or is this it? Just played the game, first time, and wow, it's heavy... Had some thoughts about the mom characters, be interesting to see what others think...

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simpgors answers to your points are very much in line with my own opinions regarding those issues, however i don't 100%ly agree with everything he said, and there are also nuances which i see different. So i'd like to take the time and chip in with some ideas and theories of my own, since albeit Victoria isn't my favourite she is definetly one of the if not the most interesting character for me. Although i don't think we are spoiling any secrets i will use nonetheless spoilers to avoid blowing this post out of proportion.
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Regarding your last three paragraphs i am very much in line with your appraisal of Victorias and Minas impact on Edwins development.

Cheers Ozygator, welcome to the thread!
 
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Hmm, good feedback, just finished the second half of the second competition (had not quite done that all yet) and have a few more ideas...

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And there is more :geek:
again using spoilers to keep my post space saving
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Well, we will see, in the meantime there is a lot of other stuff to enjoy or fear. :cool::devilish:
 
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