VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[DeronMaron]

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If these were hentai scenes, I'm Santa Claus. There were only a couple of full-fledged scenes, no more than that; the rest were just groping and teasing. And there were, as you said, no more than eight of those. I don't understand your enthusiasm about this...

 

[TD1900]

Yes, the scene with Mina was romantic, and that's all. And it wasn't easy to trigger, which was frustrating and annoying and, well, not fun. Then when it happened, it was less of a scene than the previous scenes with her, despite the foreshadowing of something more. So no advance, except for "romance." So . . . despite what some might have been thinking, and despite Mina's long list of kinky things she wants to try . . . now it appears that very little of any of those things will be happening.

Mina and Hana are the stars of this game, according to many. But here we are at week three, and some stranger movie star with weird skin is thrust upon us, instead of developing something with any of the established girls. It seems that the developer is making this story up as he goes along. He gets an inspiration, hey let's add this, that'll be fun. And forgets the flow of the game as it is experienced by those playing it.

The flow of the game and how things connect is one of my primary concerns. It's what I spend the greatest amount of time wrestling over, and while result isn't perfect, it's not arbitrary; it's a reflection of what I think a visual novel should try to be. I'm sorry you find the structure irritating, and thank you for the feed back, but it's not done capriciously like you're suggesting.

Frankly: the function of the scene was presenting Edwin an emotional outlet post-Vicky talk with the seeming "girlfriend" options of the game. If you're loaning Mina out to Veronica or spending time with another girl instead of Mina during the last update, the game sees that an implicit choice about where you want Mina's relationship to go.

As for the list: should Edwin run out and grab some dude off the street corner so they can Eiffel tower her? Should he break out the dog collar after spilling his guts? No, not the time. Mina uses the moment to be tender and make Edwin feel better. Deepening their romantic connection within the remaining week and some change is a more time sensitive matter than exploring her kinky side - of which we'll get to.

I'll add one more thing: the game isn't just about the "stars", but also Edwin himself. Under that light, I hope Allison has a point (beyond being smoking hot).

Apparently, the developer has been working on this game for so long that they've forgotten they're making a porn game, and its core is H-scenes, not a story and various meaningless choices. And this is already the second such pointless update, and considering that you have to wait almost a year for each update, it's quite disappointing... especially if something similar happens next year...

That actually makes me feel better since I figured people would complain about the opposite. That is, a short update where the majority of dev energy was spent sex scenes. Trust me, most of those "story" scenes were a lot quicker to craft than the 8ish sex scenes and their constituent parts. I mean just look at the orgy scene itself: there's like 40+ animations within, juggling 12 actors between the statics.

I think your real issue may be with the breadth, focus, and presentation of the sex scenes themselves rather than a lack of 'em. Which is fair enough.

 

[HUNUTAN]

The riper the fruit, the sweeter the juice

It's already fermented a bit there and you can't drink it.

 

[Maevos]

How do you get the latest scene with our favorite milf sadist? Scene gallery hints at Edwin making a mistake but I never got a choice related to that.

 

[Ottoeight]

I just want to remind you oblivious guys to pay attention to saves, gallery unlockers and mods posted on the threads.

If you ask why, then check this thread https://f95zone.to/threads/recent-malware-infected-games.207437/

and remember that a few weeks ago some damn fucker repeatedly posted gallery unlockers on quite a few threads that had a malicious virus in them using different aliases.

That's why I think you guys should stop asking for saves, unlockers, mods and whatever.

And that's one of the reasons I'm not going to play this game until the public version comes out.

Other reasons:

- because the public version is going to be bugfree and more polished than the patreon version;
- because our buddy Mr Bubu most likely is going to update his walkthrough in the meanwhile;
- because I think the Authors deserve some respect, for fuck's sake.

 

[recoba]

The scenes that I haven't unlocked are still locked.

Let me get a handle on the situation. You copied the 'unlocker.rpy' file into the 'game' folder, right? Did you then run the game, and did it run without any error messages? Have you restarted the game since adding the file?

 

[DeronMaron]

The flow of the game and how things connect is one of my primary concerns. It's what I spend the greatest amount of time wrestling over, and while result isn't perfect, it's not arbitrary; it's a reflection of what I think a visual novel should try to be. I'm sorry you find the structure irritating, and thank you for the feed back, but it's not done capriciously like you're suggesting.

Frankly: the function of the scene was presenting Edwin an emotional outlet post-Vicky talk with the seeming "girlfriend" options of the game. If you're loaning Mina out to Veronica or spending time with another girl instead of Mina during the last update, the game sees that an implicit choice about where you want Mina's relationship to go.

As for the list: should Edwin run out and grab some dude off the street corner so they can Eiffel tower her? Should he break out the dog collar after spilling his guts? No, not the time. Mina uses the moment to be tender and make Edwin feel better. Deepening their romantic connection within the remaining week and some change is a more time sensitive matter than exploring her kinky side - of which we'll get to.

I'll add one more thing: the game isn't just about the "stars", but also Edwin himself. Under that light, I hope Allison has a point (beyond being smoking hot).



That actually makes me feel better since I figured people would complain about the opposite. That is, a short update where the majority of dev energy was spent sex scenes. Trust me, most of those "story" scenes were a lot quicker to craft than the 8ish sex scenes and their constituent parts. I mean just look at the orgy scene itself: there's like 40+ animations within, juggling 12 actors between the statics.

I think your real issue may be with the breadth, focus, and presentation of the sex scenes themselves rather than a lack of 'em. Which is fair enough.

Is anyone really complaining about too many H-scenes? Do such people exist?
Well, I immediately forgot about the orgy after watching it; it was quite chaotic and didn't stick in my memory at all. I really don't appreciate the constant perspective shifts from scene to scene.
I looked at all the other scenes in the gallery after opening it because I couldn't get to any of them either. These decisions are becoming more and more unwise. Moreover, their number has increased, while their impact on the protagonist's actions has diminished, since most of them simply result in inaction. Is it enough to make a mistake once. There's no need to complicate the game; it's pointless. If the game doesn't have enough scenes, let's at least get to them properly, that would be something.

 

[Nulldev]

We need threesome with these bitches.

FSCK!!!
How can I survive till the pubilc release!

 

[k-]

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[Marcellogo]

There is an attached file. I've just checked. I have attached it again to this message.

Not. When you click on it only text appears.

 

[Crosaith.]

Great stuff dude! My fav girls so far are 1) Mina 2) Hana 3) Sophia 4) Kat 5) Felicia

Ngl it's a tough choice. I'm tempted to put Kat #1... some of her scenes with MC are just so fuckin hot, especially when they're doming a girl together.

 

[RoadWulf]

Well that was wholly disappointing.

 

[Deus-ex2077]

Let me get a handle on the situation. You copied the 'unlocker.rpy' file into the 'game' folder, right? Did you then run the game, and did it run without any error messages? Have you restarted the game since adding the file?

Yep, I pasted the gallery unlocker in the game folder and launched the game, but nothing changed. I thought it was because I also had the walkthrough mod, so I redownloaded the game without any mod, pasted the gallery mod again same thing . I only have the scenes that were already unlocked, the rest are still locked.

 

[longinius]

do you think the game will continue past the last challenge of just end im loving this premise

 

[recoba]

Not. When you click on it only text appears.

Understood. Correct me if I'm wrong. You see the file name and click on it (left-click). A new window then opens showing the file's contents, which start with these strings:
init 9999:
#Felicia ...

You should then do the following:
1) Hover over the file name and right-click.
2) In the context menu, select 'Save as' and choose a temporary folder to save the file to. (Do not try to open the file in the browser).
3) Copy the saved file to the 'Game' folder.
4) Restart the game.

 

[recoba]

Yep, I pasted the gallery unlocker in the game folder and launched the game, but nothing changed. I thought it was because I also had the walkthrough mod, so I redownloaded the game without any mod, pasted the gallery mod again same thing . I only have the scenes that were already unlocked, the rest are still locked.

The game runs without any problems. In the game folder, you can see the file 'unlocker.rpyc', and you can load the old saves?
Did you unzip the new game in the same folder as the old one and not delete the walkthrough mod?

 

[TD1900]

There's no need to complicate the game; it's pointless. If the game doesn't have enough scenes, let's at least get to them properly, that would be something.

Eh. The appeal of a visual novel, at least for me, is the choose-your-own-adventure feel.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the gating for any of the scenes in this update are illogical or hard to achieve. Maybe Lucy doesn't need to be tied so much to the Felicia date (I might change that), but Hana / Mina / Kathleen splits are just "focus on them" stuff and the Allison/Sophia paths are determined within this (single) update.

I can understand not feeling satisfied, it's why stopping where we did was a difficult choice, but big picture the exhibition 3 free roam is a drop in the bucket. For anyone who finds it lacking, I'm hoping the experience rounds out once it's just part of "playing Pale Carnatons" rather than "playing the update", y'know? Sure everything could be linear, but as it stands, Edwin can potentially have sex 3 times BEFORE the exhibition games even start. The "magic of CYOA" aside, tonally it'd be kinda weird to play grab ass with Kat, fuck Hana, fuck Lucy, and also comfort Felicia within that span.

That last part isn't necessarily related to your complaint, but just a thought.

 

[dranoman]

I don't get why MinaPDA choice is grayed out for me

 

[AssKnee]

The animations on my port is not running, do anybody know how to fix it? (I'm running it on android)

 

[Turret]

Why is no one bringing up the fact that Sophia is pretty much acting like a robot/brainwashed drone? There are two instances in this update where she "glitches". Once in Edwin's apartment and once during the free roam. Also, her whole demeanor changes from scene to scene, the orgy being the most notable one.

I don't buy the argument that she's like this because she was raised to be a scientist, especially when Van Doren literally snaps her out of whatever malfunction happened in her brain in the Club.

Hi!
I already mentioned in some of my posts Sophia´s "upbringing" and that we probably do not want to know exactly how this upbringing was. I might have worded it too deftly, but I think Sophia´s upbringing included such "fun" events like personality imprints, specialized training and other black ops stuff.
I doubt the free roam glitch was truly one. Sophia came to apologise on her own initiative and tried to hide it from van Doren. What better way to play up something Abel probably saw more than once over time?

I believe at the moment Sophia was a brilliant, heavily eccentric girl already under duress from her surroundings when Abel found her. And he began to hone her to be a brilliant scientist, his right hand, sword and successor., everything else was "whatever".
While van Doren is using her against even more vile persons like Chuck and Kath, what van Doren or his specialists did to Sophia is reprehensible. Since she remembers good times fondly, maybe the first years with Abel were actually good ones (like them being out hunting together) and only his war with Chuck, which seems to have become much more fierce in the last couple years, "forced" his hand. Maybe she even volunteered without knowing what it would include.

Whatever was done, we can see that the "real" Sophia is trying to get out or get some living compromise with all parts of her. I think this is happening because she is coming closer to be Abel´s successor, which means relying more on herself, since Abel needs a capable successor.
Some of her talk and behaviour from the club bar meeting makes a lot more sense now. Sophia might be in the driving chair most of the time, but when needed the cold, calculating killer comes out.

As I wrote before, I truly hope that we get an ending with our hero and Sophia being together. Two damaged souls getting at least some sort of happy ending.