slightchance

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The scene might be longer, but your choice will have repercusions in the future. Allison represents the dark path, Sophia the grey one and not participating at all the white path.
If Allison is not a plant appointed by Kathleen to drive a wedge between Edwin/Hana and Felicia/Elias I'll eat my * shoe.
She's a viper, called into the club to poison relationships (even further).
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Turret

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All paths lead to white.:sneaky:
Witzbold!(Joker) :) The irony is quite strong seeing you chose Sophia, despitequite a number of your posts slurring her.;)

What I find interesting is that if we do take drugs, Sophia looks at us less favourable (Sophia rapport -2). I'm guessing it's because we were so angry about being drugged before (with aphrodisiac made by her, probably a lot safer than cocaine) but now we're doing coke. Or it might have to do with the fact that we're snorting coke off of Allison's ass and not hers :]. Anyway, I love details like these and TD wasn't kidding when he said that almost every decision we make is flagged.
Yes, the storyline gloves come off. Choices will have consequences. Even if I were not a Sophia fan, I would have taken her path, since Allison and the druggies are the highway to hell.

I don't think that what was happening in the Vault had happened to Sophia, although I guess it is plausible. I won't buy any hypnosis (which finger snap points to) or multiple personality disorder trope either (which "where did that succubus go?" -> "She only comes out when she needs to" points to). She might as well have a twin if we're going down that road, that could lead to an enjoyable sex scene at least. I'm still hoping TD will make all of this in a way I'll buy it but even if not I'm sure it will at least be fun.
You might have read my post above on this topic. I am rather sure what happens in the vault, did not happen to Sophia. Still, I think beside special training she herself confirmed, that personality imprints play a big role here. Welldone ones since Abel is fond of Sophia and she is his successor, but nevertheless such things are dark black ops and secret services stuff.

So yeah, it seems she was somehow trained/conditioned but I fail to see why visiting Edwin would be something Abel would forbid and why would Sophia want to keep it a secret or Abel make her forget about it.
I theorise it is less that Abel "forbade" visiting the MC, but that she came to apologise(!) for Abel and herself. As explained by Sophia herself, Abel and Chuck are in a mega pissing content with the loser being probably minced meat afterwards. Apologising to Edwin means "showing weakness" which the enemy can see, since Edwin talked with Chuck about the visit. I must fire up a save where Edwin keeps the Abel/Sophia visit under wraps, if that changes some parts.
 
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Kathleen is not crazy enough, as this time she invites F's husband, in the final we may see R's daughter or V's girlfriend watching them under the stage.
 
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gourry

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Sounds like a mod acting up. A game stopping a the same point as before is often an outdated walkthrough mod and/or other story dependent mods.
I figured it out. I apparently downloaded 4.5 and when I extracted it, I always remove the numbers at the end. So I was using 4.5 like a dumbass. Sorry for my stupidity and asking for help when I was at fault.
 
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gourry

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If you used Shawn's mod then re-extract the game and play without it. The mod force a stop at the end of Ch4Up5. You can also just delete the last file in the mod folder.
I figured it out. I apparently downloaded 4.5 and when I extracted it, I always remove the numbers at the end. So I was using 4.5 like a dumbass. Sorry for my stupidity and asking for help when I was at fault.
 

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Hi everyone!
An interesting novel with very good writing. I'm not a fan of anime-style visuals, but I still really enjoyed it.
Some scenes were truly difficult to watch, like where Kathleen bullies the girls. I wanted to strangle her right there and burn this club to the ground. I hope I'll get that chance eventually...
I liked all the girls (except Кath), but especially Rosalind.
Since I just read this novel a few days ago, I don't know anything about the developers or their plans for the game. How often are updates released, and do you know how many chapters / episodes are planned?
 

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Witzbold!(Joker) :) The irony is quite strong seeing you chose Sophia, despitequite a number of your posts slurring her.;)
In the tugs of passion I have to admit that I’m turning the corner on the whole Android 18 Asperger kink thing Sophia has going on. It’s quite the power dynamic Edwin has taking when advantage of her. Hoooottttt.:coffee::p
 
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Hey guys, can anyone tell me which routes I should be on to push Mina to Veronica in the club and what I should avoid? Because no matter how I spin the game, I don't see this option.
 

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Thank to Turret for the consideration he showed for my interpretation of the Carnation Club (the whole of its membership9) as something diabolical.
Naturally, it doesn't mean that there is something supernatural involved but that in the very end the type of evil you face there is one that feast on corrupting and ruining lives for the sheer pleasure of it, with money, sexual gratification and/or power being just added bonus.
In this I confess that some details of the interior of the club (like the Crimson everywhere , the Stained glass or like so) strongly suggested me.
 
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