VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Ummmh]

I mean sure it wouldn't be as easy, but on the other hand, there's something to be said about experience and refinement gained with age. Case in point, we have people in this very thread who go for Felicia over girls like Hana or Mina, which i think can easily be argued are pretty much on top of that "20 year-olds" pile. So evidently the appeal isn't as simple as "low age trumps all".

The type of guy Fel's gold-digging for likely isn't interested in experience and refinement; they want VERY young and breedable trophy wives.

Fel isn't after a guy who made his first mil just last week; she's after a guy with "10 million dollars in his pocket". That's a guy with 100 mil+ in the bank, and not only are there a LOT less of those than just "millionaires", they are:

1) Likely to already be married. REALLY likely.

2) Likely to know Elias personally ("it's a small club, and you ain't in it", as said by George Carlin), so not want his "cast-offs".

3) Overwhelmingly likely to be acquisition-OBSESSED, (they didn't get THAT rich if morals or a simple life of wisdom factored over wealth), so probably obsessively greedy and selfish materialists, with a LARGE percentage being narcissists.

Such types tend to be massively concerned about the "value" the new wife brings, with a weighting towards not wanting a woman who has "hit the wall" of her mid-30s. That ~35 yrs age bracket is a HARD PASS for a lot of the narcissistic self-described "alpha' millionaires and billionaires.

THAT sort of guy is cruising for his second or third wife, because the one he bought 10 yrs ago is looking more like Fel is now, than say, a Mina, AND THOSE TYPES WANT A MINA; they figure they can train a barely-legal bimbo to look refined, but the plastic surgery used in maintaining "the old gal" has started to show its seams, so time to dump her and get a newer model. To them, younger is always better.

Elias is a weird case, because he inherited, so didn"t have as much of the greed angle, seemingly has SOME morals, and held onto Fel as she got to her 30s (tho is still cheating on her) but, for all his seeming niceness, still flatly refused to pay out even a pittance to help keep open an art school that was the one shining gem of hope in a poor community. The big-money bracket is a profile that oft pans out.

BTW.. Note how often Allison, who is on Elias's arm, gets compared to Fel. While the club arranged it, Elias might still have been trying out Felicia v2.0.

Ultra rich folks didn't get rich by having morals, or giving a sheet abt personality. Don't assume that demographic gives sheet one what a woman's experience brings, as this is the Epstein-flight-list crowd we are talking abt: they will be programming the new slave girl to behave as THEY please, anyway, so want the cup empty for them to fill. Young and fill-able.. That ain't Fel, anymore. ( EDIT: OK, yeah, she is fill-able (very fill-able)... Just not malleable. )

PS.. The art of Honey Select games (like this one) keeps gals hot unless it wildly exaggerates their age, so how Fel would look IRL is debateable. She has access to top-dollar cosmetics and likely "had some work done", but probably is showing her age a bit, nonetheless, despite the game art keeping her evergreen.

 

[ruby_rubicon]

Various character can comment on the MC's hand, but there's a lot of branching. Ian will ask if he came along to visit Victoria in the morning. Hana will ask about it if you visit her home on the GF route. Felicia will likewise ask if the MC ended their art date with her alone (no threesome with Mina). I don't think anyone else will comment on the injury, but it's possible I missed something.

Whoops, I guess Ian is lost to me, he didn't want to come to see Vic.

Oh well, guy was too broken in a Bro way anyway (?). Edwin has things/ex-GFs to do!

 

[ffive]

Fel isn't after a guy who made his first mil just last week;

You really think she would snub a guy with "just" couple millions when the alternative is literal decades of getting exploited and fucked at a brothel with nothing to show for it? *

NGL, it feels like a pretty wild take. "If i can't dine at 5-star restaurant i'd rather eat shit from dog bowl than have regular, 4-star meals".

*) not like this is actually a serious alternative in the first place. Unlike other Carnations, Felicia didn't join the contest because she was in dire straits financially. Similarly, if she doesn't win it's not like she owes the club anything or needs their assistance. She can go and do anything else with her life, whether this is looking for a millionaire to charm or a basic job and taking up painting in her spare time.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

iirc choosing sophia instead of kathleen in that week 2 punishment also help build rapport with sophia

Hi! As I wrote before, Sophia only comes to talk during the orgy if she likes you. For that you have to start from the beginning. You probably also did not choose her during the Kath and Sophia scene in the blue room, since you have no good relations with her.
first off, when you meet Sophia in the club bar, take her hand, when the option pops up. During the Kath and Sophia scene in the blue room choose Sophia. Do not insult her during the "flat invasion", accept her apology, talk with her during the free roam, do not take drugs. That should help you.

AFAICT, these are all the Sophia Rapport points currently available in the game:

• +1 if you push back against her initial apology
• +1 if you're distracted by her breasts when she visits in the morning
• +1 if you accept her apology before she leaves
• +1 if you say you liked her angry outburst when talking to her during the free roam in the Club
• +1 if you look at her tits rather than taking her hand off your chest
• -2 if you take her hand off her chest rather than look at her tits (to a minimum of 0)

Sophia will have an extended discussion with the MC during the orgy (thus allowing you to choose her sex scene) if you have 3 or more Rapport points. In essence that means you *need* to stare at her tits in the Club, plus pick any two of the other options listed.

He must be really antagonize sophia for to not get sophia scene with how many chances you can build sophia's relationship points lol

Turns out all I had to do was go to my save where I accepted her apology and it seems I had all the points I needed. I don´t remember if there was a choice between Sophia and Kathleen at any point, but if the option to choose neither of them existed, that´s probably what I chose. If I was forced to pick, than I´m sure it was Sophia, since I can´t stand Kathleen (I can´t stand 90% of the people who run that club).
In the save where I didn´t accept her apology, she came to talk to me during the orgy, I just didn´t have the option to follow her and have the sex scene with her, so I was probably in a sort of limbo situation, where I had the necessary points to get her to talk to me but not enough to go the extra step.

I’m ready to sell MC’s soul to the devil (in this case, Kath) for him to get revenge on that smoking hot redheaded MILF (aka Ian’s mom) with psychological cruelty so intense it’s worthy of a Japanese thriller directed by Sion Sono!

I already wanted to do that with the way she treats Ian.

I want one of the LI's to get fucked in front of Edwin

Which one? And do you mean watching them get dick or some lesbian action?

 

[Fapparition]

so he gets drunk

Ooh, I'm afraid he doesn't just get drunk that night...

 

[dolfe67]

The type of guy Fel's gold-digging for likely isn't interested in experience and refinement; they want VERY young and breedable trophy wives.

Fel isn't after a guy who made his first mil just last week; she's after a guy with "10 million dollars in his pocket". That's a guy with 100 mil+ in the bank, and not only are there a LOT less of those than just "millionaires", they are:

1) Likely to already be married. REALLY likely.

2) Likely to know Elias personally ("it's a small club, and you ain't in it", as said by George Carlin), so not want his "cast-offs".

3) Overwhelmingly likely to be acquisition-OBSESSED, (they didn't get THAT rich if morals or a simple life of wisdom factored over wealth), so probably obsessively greedy and selfish materialists, with a LARGE percentage being narcissists.

Such types tend to be massively concerned about the "value" the new wife brings, with a weighting towards not wanting a woman who has "hit the wall" of her mid-30s. That ~35 yrs age bracket is a HARD PASS for a lot of the narcissistic self-described "alpha' millionaires and billionaires.

THAT sort of guy is cruising for his second or third wife, because the one he bought 10 yrs ago is looking more like Fel is now, than say, a Mina, AND THOSE TYPES WANT A MINA; they figure they can train a barely-legal bimbo to look refined, but the plastic surgery used in maintaining "the old gal" has started to show its seams, so time to dump her and get a newer model. To them, younger is always better.

Elias is a weird case, because he inherited, so didn"t have as much of the greed angle, seemingly has SOME morals, and held onto Fel as she got to her 30s (tho is still cheating on her) but, for all his seeming niceness, still flatly refused to pay out even a pittance to help keep open an art school that was the one shining gem of hope in a poor community. The big-money bracket is a profile that oft pans out.

BTW.. Note how often Allison, who is on Elias's arm, gets compared to Fel. While the club arranged it, Elias might still have been trying out Felicia v2.0.

Ultra rich folks didn't get rich by having morals, or giving a sheet abt personality. Don't assume that demographic gives sheet one what a woman's experience brings, as this is the Epstein-flight-list crowd we are talking abt: they will be programming the new slave girl to behave as THEY please, anyway, so want the cup empty for them to fill. Young and fill-able.. That ain't Fel, anymore. ( EDIT: OK, yeah, she is fill-able (very fill-able)... Just not malleable. )

PS.. The art of Honey Select games (like this one) keeps gals hot unless it wildly exaggerates their age, so how Fel would look IRL is debateable. She has access to top-dollar cosmetics and likely "had some work done", but probably is showing her age a bit, nonetheless, despite the game art keeping her evergreen.

2 points:
- Elias is not cheating, they have a kind of open relationship. He's lying to Felicia not because of Allison but because of the club
- Keeping gals hot is not only done with Honey Select, you can also have hot "milf" of ~38 year old in DAZ who don't look their age. It's just a porn game thing

 

[victoryroad]

Damn this update was good!! And the dev made it such a difficult decision to choose between Sophia or Allison. Sophia is so intriguing to such an extent that you just have to find out what's underneath all the games she's playing. And Allison, she's temptation turned up to a 100, a bimbo version of Felicia and you want to fuck her brains out.

And Elias actually seems decent compared to all the other scum in the club, did not expect that.

 

[shroomify]

And Elias actually seems decent compared to all the other scum in the club, did not expect that.

I suppose. However it seems he is not above taking advantage of the clients that he represents. If you pay attention during the interview you see he leaves to take advantage of one of the "troublesome" actresses that his subordinate has plied with drugs.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Just finished the update and I have to say, what a bomb to lead us into the exhibition. I don´t think I ever felt so bad for a character as I did for Felicia, even though she´s the one who decided to sign up for that. Elias seems like a relatively decent guy, although there isn´t a lot of competition in that aspect. It´s sad the he was already going to be part of the club and get the support he needed for his election (or was he helping someone else get elected? I actually blanked on that one), but Kathleen and the club felt the need to go the extra step to make sure they could control him.
Sophia is growing on me, I hope there is a way to "save" her from Van Doren, although I still don´t trust her; I´m sad there was no Mina scene, that better be compensated in the next part of the update; thank god for that Hana scene, best scene in the update for me, I will always love a thirsty girl.

 

[Discrepancy]

Just finished the update and I have to say, what a bomb to lead us into the exhibition. I don´t think I ever felt so bad for a character as I did for Felicia, even though she´s the one who decided to sign up for that. Elias seems like a relatively decent guy, although there isn´t a lot of competition in that aspect. It´s sad the he was already going to be part of the club and get the support he needed for his election (or was he helping someone else get elected? I actually blanked on that one), but Kathleen and the club felt the need to go the extra step to make sure they could control him.
Sophia is growing on me, I hope there is a way to "save" her from Van Doren, although I still don´t trust her; I´m sad there was no Mina scene, that better be compensated in the next part of the update; thank god for that Hana scene, best scene in the update for me, I will always love a thirsty girl.

There's a Mina scene, after Edwin has breakfast with the mom, you can go to Mina or Hana or in my case neither

 

[sunaboz]

I suppose. However it seems he is not above taking advantage of the clients that he represents. If you pay attention during the interview you see he leaves to take advantage of one of the "troublesome" actresses that his subordinate has plied with drugs.

Citation needed. Where did you get the part with drugs?

 

[shroomify]

Citation needed. Where did you get the part with drugs?

when his subordinate sends elias a picture on his phone showing the girl in question snorting some lines. After seeing the pic he decides to wrap up the interview quickly and leave before dinner.

 

[jimtra]

it would be nice to if the MC gets fucks Killian's mom or his or maybe both

 

[BunnygirlBoobies]

I'm not overlooking a way to skip the forced intermission screens and the long ass startup screens am I? Forced pauses like that really break the flow for me and the intro screens being forced are just "the board of directors got hold of the game" annoying

 

[Discrepancy]

I'm not overlooking a way to skip the forced intermission screens and the long ass startup screens am I? Forced pauses like that really break the flow for me and the intro screens being forced are just "the board of directors got hold of the game" annoying

I love those intermission screens and the jingle that plays when they appear!

 

[TD1900]

I'm not overlooking a way to skip the forced intermission screens and the long ass startup screens am I? Forced pauses like that really break the flow for me and the intro screens being forced are just "the board of directors got hold of the game" annoying

The Ctrl key should get you past the splash screens. The transition screens too technically, although you'll need skip unread on for the first time seeing them.

They get less frequent as the game goes along.

 

[ffive]

I suppose. However it seems he is not above taking advantage of the clients that he represents. If you pay attention during the interview you see he leaves to take advantage of one of the "troublesome" actresses that his subordinate has plied with drugs.

The text from the subordinate reads

I got my hands on this. I imagine it will shut her up.

I await your instructions, sir.

Which i think can also be interpreted that "this" in question are pictures of the troublesome actress snorting lines she has acquired on her own, and using this to blackmail her to stop making a fuss. As opposed to actually supplying her drugs themselves.

 

[ffive]

There's a Mina scene, after Edwin has breakfast with the mom, you can go to Mina or Hana or in my case neither

So many people expect to get Mina scene and are absolutely convinced there just wasn't one, when they didn't have the basic courtesy not to treat her like some second-string afterthought, smh.

 

[Ottoeight]

So many people expect to get Mina scene and are absolutely convinced there just wasn't one, when they didn't have the basic courtesy not to treat her like some second-string afterthought, smh.

The real question would be:

since there's a new Mina scene in the game gallery, how could he possibly claim that there is no Mina scene in this update?

 

[dolfe67]

The real question would be:

since there's a new Mina scene in the game gallery, how could he possibly claim that there is no Mina scene in this update?

Because he didn't look at the game gallery