VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Lusurbur]

why would you do judge hubby like that he seems like a sweet old man

No one is safe from a cuckening....not from my edwin no sir...

 

[shroomify]

I'm on a new play through with 4.6 usually after the reveal of Killion's mom blackmail of MC's Mom the next morning he agrees to go with to see MC's mom. For some reason in this play through begs off and doesn't go. Also there is no scene in the hallway where he wants to crush his mom. Any idea what triggers these events?
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Thx

 

[Discrepancy]

I'm on a new play through with 4.6 usually after the reveal of Killion's mom blackmail of MC's Mom the next morning he agrees to go with to see MC's mom. For some reason in this play through begs off and doesn't go. Also there is no scene in the hallway where he wants to crush his mom. Any idea what triggers these events?
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Thx

Yeah he refused to go with me on my playthrough, probably not enough Killian Bromance points?

 

[Khan merry]

Why did we all collectively decide to shorten Kathleen to Kath instead of Kathy like normal people?

Using a "y" at the end of someone’s name usually signals close familiarity or affection and I don’t think most people here want to be associated with that degenerate

 

[emme_]

Hey guys! Still haven't played yet. For the ones who have completed the new update, what are the consequences of warning/not warning Felicia about the painting at the club, at the end of the previous update? Thanks a lot ^^

 

[Turret]

I'm losing it so hard every time the Sophia guy posts screenshots that inadvertently serve as a reminder he baptized his Edwin as a fucking Wolfgang.

Hard luck, chummer! Edwin is a rarely given name here and I wanted to give our hero something fitting his role. Wolfgang is a really old name and means "walks like a Wolf", whereas Edwin is roughly "rich friend" or "friend of riches". Also wanted to stress that this incarnation of Edwin tries to look after the girls instead of abusing them.

Yeah he refused to go with me on my playthrough, probably not enough Killian Bromance points?

That is the most probable explanation. Bromance points are critical for several path variants.

 

[JJJ84]

A bit late getting around to it, but finally finished the update.
And holy smokes, it was amazing.

Very chunky in length and also quite a bit of content with Hana (who is basically my only canon route that I'm playing as MC's goth gf).

Curious as to how things will further spiral into chaos (after Elias now knowing Felicia's one of the Carnations).
And ngl, with Victoria's(MC's mom) past secret being known to MC & Ian (well I decided to reveal it to him, with him being my bro), I do wonder whether Ian and Chuck will find out soon that Ian's mom tried to blackmail Victoria.

A little bit surprised that Hana has been the only one to ask about MC's bandage on his left hand.
Thought Ian would notice MC's hand bandaged when they meet at the Club, but so far nothing.
Ian in my playthrough has always been extremely loyal as a bro to my MC (going as far as telling Dr. Van Doren off for their visit to MC's apartment in previous update).
Guess I can see him flipping out and being mad at his mom.
Will him getting mad at her result in him doing more unpredictable actions?

Oh well, I guess it could be a possibility for next update, answer that TD1900 may give (or not).


On sidenote, while Hana will always be my favorite/canon girl with this game, I've grown to like Sophia a lot.
I like the whole banter & interactions (such as her stroking MC's head) she has going on with MC.

In a way, it almost feels a shame that she's not a main LI and is more of a side chick.

 

[slightchance]

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That's all speculative and not based on a sequence of events that could give the impression Hana is on the path you're describing. But I guess your reply underlines what many have said/felt: Hana's corruption is only an abstract concept. If there are any writings on the wall then they are almost invisible (to me).
The crowd that wants her to stay exclusive is the one that needs to be convinced of there being a chance she can change (for the "worse") if they aren't careful enough. They should be the one who are watchful lest they lead her into a downward spiral. This doesn't seem to be the case here.

The scenes with Edwin and her in the club are no indicator either. They're all rather safe and on par with her doing a concert half naked. I don't believe they will use any CCTV footage to blackmail her. Be that as it may, it's probably best to dismount this dead horse for good. I'm starting to repeat myself and that becomes kinda boring.

 

[Turret]

A bit late getting around to it, but finally finished the update.
And holy smokes, it was amazing.

Very chunky in length and also quite a bit of content with Hana (who is basically my only canon route that I'm playing as MC's goth gf).

Curious as to how things will further spiral into chaos (after Elias now knowing Felicia's one of the Carnations).
And ngl, with Victoria's(MC's mom) past secret being known to MC & Ian (well I decided to reveal it to him, with him being my bro), I do wonder whether Ian and Chuck will find out soon that Ian's mom tried to blackmail Victoria.

A little bit surprised that Hana has been the only one to ask about MC's bandage on his left hand.
Thought Ian would notice MC's hand bandaged when they meet at the Club, but so far nothing.
Ian in my playthrough has always been extremely loyal as a bro to my MC (going as far as telling Dr. Van Doren off for their visit to MC's apartment in previous update).
Guess I can see him flipping out and being mad at his mom.
Will him getting mad at her result in him doing more unpredictable actions?

Oh well, I guess it could be a possibility for next update, answer that TD1900 may give (or not).


On sidenote, while Hana will always be my favorite/canon girl with this game, I've grown to like Sophia a lot.
I like the whole banter & interactions (such as her stroking MC's head) she has going on with MC.

In a way, it almost feels a shame that she's not a main LI and is more of a side chick.

Hi!
Someone asking our hero about his bandaged hand depends on relations most probably. For instance, in my Hana playthrough Felicia also asks Edwin what happened (and had a funny idea about what she could do to Grace). In that playthrough among the main LI Hana and Felicia have by far the most RP with the MC, so I estimate a certain level of good relations is needed to be asked about the hand.

As for Sophia, here is hoping that we get an ending where our two social inept, quirky nerds are a couple. Their banter is great and it is pretty obvious Sophia does not do it with others. (Maybe, just maybe Abel at times, but definitely no one else in the game)

 

[JJJ84]

Hi!
Someone asking our hero about his bandaged hand depends on relations most probably. For instance, in my Hana playthrough Felicia also asks Edwin what happened (and had a funny idea about what she could do to Grace). In that playthrough among the main LI Hana and Felicia have by far the most RP with the MC, so I estimate a certain level of good relations is needed to be asked about the hand.

I think both RP for Hana and Felicia are maxed in my playthrough.
Yet, I chose to spend time with Hana (taking her photos & the boobjob lewd scene), instead of visiting Felicia in the spare time (yes, I get there is a mod which does both, but not keen on seeing all routes in these "choose only one scenarios" given it's possible to view all can mess up a game's variables lol).

Not sure whether the same applies for male characters relationships with MC as well though.
For instance, my relationship with both Ian and Dr Chuck are pretty high, yet there was nothing.

 

[Turret]

I think both RP for Hana and Felicia are maxed in my playthrough.
Yet, I chose to spend time with Hana (taking her photos & the boobjob lewd scene), instead of visiting Felicia in the spare time (yes, I get there is a mod which does both, but not keen on seeing all routes in these "choose only one scenarios" given it's possible to view all can mess up a game's variables lol).

Not sure whether the same applies for male characters relationships with MC as well though.
For instance, my relationship with both Ian and Dr Chuck are pretty high, yet there was nothing.

I chose to visit Feli despite being on the Hana path in the playthrough, because a) Hana understands the problems and stuff in the club and b) what is done to Felicia is beyond the pale, so I did not spend more time with Hana, but went to visit Feli to prepare her as best as I could.

As for the guys, your relations with them are important too, you only get some options if e.g. your relations with August and Ian are good.

 

[Meiri]

I think both RP for Hana and Felicia are maxed in my playthrough.
Yet, I chose to spend time with Hana (taking her photos & the boobjob lewd scene), instead of visiting Felicia in the spare time (yes, I get there is a mod which does both, but not keen on seeing all routes in these "choose only one scenarios" given it's possible to view all can mess up a game's variables lol).

Not sure whether the same applies for male characters relationships with MC as well though.
For instance, my relationship with both Ian and Dr Chuck are pretty high, yet there was nothing.

Ian will notice if Edwin asks him to come along to meet Victoria this chapter. But if Edwin goes alone, I haven't tried that route but I don't think he says anything later on in the club.

 

[ename144]

I'm on a new play through with 4.6 usually after the reveal of Killion's mom blackmail of MC's Mom the next morning he agrees to go with to see MC's mom. For some reason in this play through begs off and doesn't go. Also there is no scene in the hallway where he wants to crush his mom. Any idea what triggers these events?
'
Thx

It's determined early in Chapter 4 by whether the MC encouraged Killian to self-reflect after breaking up with Mina. An introspective Ian has the tools needed to process the truth and recognize that Victoria is the the absolute best. A non-reflective Ian can't handle the complexities of reality, so he gets drunk and runs to uncle Chuck instead.

That choice requires 25+ Bromance points to make, but AFAICT Bromance points are not specifically needed beyond that.

I think both RP for Hana and Felicia are maxed in my playthrough.
Yet, I chose to spend time with Hana (taking her photos & the boobjob lewd scene), instead of visiting Felicia in the spare time (yes, I get there is a mod which does both, but not keen on seeing all routes in these "choose only one scenarios" given it's possible to view all can mess up a game's variables lol).

Not sure whether the same applies for male characters relationships with MC as well though.
For instance, my relationship with both Ian and Dr Chuck are pretty high, yet there was nothing.

Various character can comment on the MC's hand, but there's a lot of branching. Ian will ask if he came along to visit Victoria in the morning. Hana will ask about it if you visit her home on the GF route. Felicia will likewise ask if the MC ended their art date with her alone (no threesome with Mina). I don't think anyone else will comment on the injury, but it's possible I missed something.

 

[ffive]

She clearly never thought to instead be ruined, and end up endlessly humiliated, degraded, and fucked by the very club members she sought to hobnob with, being their toy for the next decade or two

There's over 24 millions millionaires in the U.S. I think Felicia would manage just fine to still snatch herself one instead of the club becoming her only option for life. It's not like Elias is going to be eager advertising his wife took their open marriage clause a little too far.

 

[dolfe67]

There's over 24 millions millionaires in the U.S. I think Felicia would manage just fine to still snatch herself one instead of the club becoming her only option for life. It's not like Elias is going to be eager advertising his wife took their open marriage clause a little too far.

And how many are single? And a millionaire is not enough, what can you do with only a million? She needs at least a hundred-millionaire

 

[FRVN]

There's over 24 millions millionaires in the U.S. I think Felicia would manage just fine to still snatch herself one instead of the club becoming her only option for life. It's not like Elias is going to be eager advertising his wife took their open marriage clause a little too far.

It would be more difficult now than it was when she landed Elias. Why would a millionaire go for the 35+ year-old when there are plenty of 20+ year-olds interested in being their sugar baby? I'm sure some would be interested, but it's not like she will have an easy time finding one.

 

[ffive]

It would be more difficult now than it was when she landed Elias. Why would a millionaire go for the 35+ year-old when there are plenty of 20+ year-olds interested in being their sugar baby? I'm sure some would be interested, but it's not like she will have an easy time finding one.

I mean sure it wouldn't be as easy, but on the other hand, there's something to be said about experience and refinement gained with age. Case in point, we have people in this very thread who go for Felicia over girls like Hana or Mina, which i think can easily be argued are pretty much on top of that "20 year-olds" pile. So evidently the appeal isn't as simple as "low age trumps all".

 

[Hiarus]

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And how many are single? And a millionaire is not enough, what can you do with only a million? She needs at least a hundred-millionaire

Tbf, relationship status are merely suggestions for a _lot_ of millionaires

Think Felicia would be fine being a sugar baby?

 

[Idontplay]

She is too old to be a sugar baby.

 

[JJJ84]

I chose to visit Feli despite being on the Hana path in the playthrough, because a) Hana understands the problems and stuff in the club and b) what is done to Felicia is beyond the pale, so I did not spend more time with Hana, but went to visit Feli to prepare her as best as I could.

As for the guys, your relations with them are important too, you only get some options if e.g. your relations with August and Ian are good.

Luckily I did make a save at that choice point (visiting Felicia or stay with Hana), so I just went back and played it.
It did kill me a little seeing Hana's disappointed face despite understanding (ooooof ), but here's hoping that promise of a rendevous later that evening leads to a better outcome.

As for Felicia, I'm unsure whether MC's interaction with her helped her in any way (she still faints just as she does if I have MC choose to stay with Hana) other than relieving her of boredom waiting.
But I guess any tangible consequence may be in the next two updates if any.

And yeah, I'm aware that the relationship with the male characters are important.
I have the relationship points focused on Ian & Dr. Chuck.

Why not August?
Cause typically August's relationship points clashes against relationship points of either Dr. Chuck & Hana, who both use non-brutal methods (compared to August who in essence, using violence is the primary way to raise up his RP).

Given I'm on Hana's path, no doubt I'd pick Hana's preference over August, and even Dr. Chuck, given that despite being an evil as fuck mastermind , his methods seemed more in line with non-violence, and more with manipulation/corruption (he does tend to be soft when it comes to Ian and MC, so that was a plus too).

Various character can comment on the MC's hand, but there's a lot of branching. Ian will ask if he came along to visit Victoria in the morning. Hana will ask about it if you visit her home on the GF route. Felicia will likewise ask if the MC ended their art date with her alone (no threesome with Mina). I don't think anyone else will comment on the injury, but it's possible I missed something.

I told Ian about Victoria's past and he really appreciated it, yet when I asked him to come visit Victoria, he refused saying "Uhh... I have breakfast with Uncle Chuck" which MC thinks in his monlogue "BS."

Hana (I'm on Hana goth gf route) notices the hand.
Is the Ian coming factor influenced by Hana gf factor (i.e. if I'm on Hana gf route, Ian will not come)?
Or is it simply that my MC's bromance stat with Ian is not high enough?

Looking at the Killian Bromance stats, it's 32.
I honestly have no idea whether there is a maximum stats cap for Ian like there are for LIs.
Makes me wonder whether I screwed up in some decisions early on in the game if that really is the case (and Ian visiting Victoria in the morning with MC after finding out about her past is entirely dependent on bromance points).