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Ottoeight

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There was no kissing. I'm not even on Hana's path in this save. Maybe devs overlooked this moment
Hana is talking to Jerrica. And Mina is simply waiting that Hana & Jerrica end their charade.

What is Mina thinking about? my guess is that she's upset because Jerrica is a bit hostile towards her - that's the real reason why Hana is quarrelling with Jerrica.

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Not so sure now. If Edwin doesn't kiss her, then she is not upset.
 
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Hana is talking to Jerrica. And Mina is simply waiting that Hana & Jerrica end their charade.

What is Mina thinking about? my guess is that she's upset because Jerrica is a bit hostile towards her - that's the real reason why Hana is quarrelling with Jerrica.
Given the quote in the screenshot, iirc Jerrica is giving Hana shit about Edwin. Whether Edwin and Hana actually fuck or kiss in public is quite irrelevant here, Mina can still feel quite upset/insecure over the idea of "this guy i like is being discussed in the context of being close [friend] with another girl".

There was no kissing. I'm not even on Hana's path in this save. Maybe devs overlooked this moment
When you say "i'm not on Hana's path" do you mean Hana GF path or no interactions at all? Did Edwin in your game go on a "date" with Hana and/or fuck?
 

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Given the quote in the screenshot, iirc Jerrica is giving Hana shit about Edwin. Whether Edwin and Hana actually fuck or kiss in public is quite irrelevant here, Mina can still feel quite upset/insecure over the idea of "this guy i like is being discussed in the context of being close [friend] with another girl".
Only if they kissed on stage.

Anyway, if they don't kiss, Mina is not upset/pensive.
 
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Just friends. Not FB, not GF. So when Edwin comes on stage he only 'sings', no kissing happens
As I said, this scene has 2 variations: Mina upset/pensive and Mina merrily amused.

If you hang out with her till the end, but you end up taking her at the bar instead of cheering for Hana, Mina won't be pensive: she will be amused by Jerrica and Hana.
 

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The reason for Mina being down at the first one is because she thought Edwin brought her upstairs to hide from the crowd so they could have some fun. She thought Edwin is afraid of the fact that their relationship status will be known publicly (to Ian specifically). Well, that's according to Edwin, at least.

The second one confuses me as well. To get it you need to kiss Mina publicly and then cheer up for Hana.
Holy, true, why didnt I think up sth like that? I thought she was having a problem with Edwin being with Hana and Edwin was having a problem with admitting that hes jealous. Damn, hopefully theres gonna be more of Mina's contents in the future
 

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Why is this game teasing Lucy so hard? I'm serious. First in the competition of Victoria vs Lucy Ian is the one that gets to fuck her. And she gets to lose vs Victoria degrading her to a side character. Then in the scene where MC gets drugged by Kathleen he gets to fuck Harper and Dalia while Lucy "only" does a blowjob then boobjob. The Lesbian scene with Harper is a missed opportunity for a three some. But I'm glad she got to make a little comeback at the art exhibition. Still no vaginal sex.
This probably has been brought up before, but I just had to rant.
 

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soooo...I would like to get everyone's reasoning on which Carnation that they would like to see win? My list is as follows...although Felicia is absolutely positively amazing, beautiful and magnificently sexy I'm not picking her to win because although she might have her reasons they are not good enough to make me feel sorry for her when she has everything...Veronica...although I feel very sorry for her losing her gym it just doesn't do it for me...it could be also because she's not feminine enough for me even though she is beautiful ang built well...Rosa is the woman I want to win the contest...her daughter is all that she has, her husband was a total asshole for leaving her with that debt, she's so gentle and caring( how she waits on the MC while staying at his house) and her body is perfect to me...in my lowly opinion Rosa is there because she has no other choice. I don't know what the developers have in mund going forward but although I adore Mina and Hana I would love the opportunity to be able to choose Rosa at the end. I would love to hear everyone elses opinions, choices and reasonings . Thanks
 
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The reason for Mina being down at the first one is because she thought Edwin brought her upstairs to hide from the crowd so they could have some fun. She thought Edwin is afraid of the fact that their relationship status will be known publicly (to Ian specifically). Well, that's according to Edwin, at least.

The second one confuses me as well. To get it you need to kiss Mina publicly and then cheer up for Hana.
Just friends. Not FB, not GF. So when Edwin comes on stage he only 'sings', no kissing happens
Are you sure that's the case? As far as I can see by poking around with URM, Hana's line about Jerrica being over the moon only happens if Hana kissed the MC on stage. (Though in that case it will happen regardless of if Mina is involved with the MC.) If the MC sang on stage but didn't smooch Hana (i.e. if he went to see the band in Chapter 1 but didn't score with Hana in Week 3), then Hana pivots to asking Jerrica to live with her and Mina never has a chance to look forlorn.

It's entirely possible I'm missing something, but could you have mixed up where the second screenshot came from?
 

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soooo...I would like to get everyone's reasoning on which Carnation that they would like to see win? My list is as follows...although Felicia is absolutely positively amazing, beautiful and magnificently sexy I'm not picking her to win because although she might have her reasons they are not good enough to make me feel sorry for her when she has everything...Veronica...although I feel very sorry for her losing her gym it just doesn't do it for me...it could be also because she's not feminine enough for me even though she is beautiful ang built well...Rosa is the woman I want to win the contest...her daughter is all that she has, her husband was a total asshole for leaving her with that debt, she's so gentle and caring( how she waits on the MC while staying at his house) and her body is perfect to me...in my lowly opinion Rosa is there because she has no other choice. I don't know what the developers have in mund going forward but although I adore Mina and Hana I would love the opportunity to be able to choose Rosa at the end. I would love to hear everyone elses opinions, choices and reasonings . Thanks
Out of the 3, I'd say Rosie deserves it more, she's definitely in the most dire situation, at least when compared to the other 2, the order would be Rosie > Veronica > Felicia. Even the game itself recognizes this multiple times, when the carnations have talked between each other Vero and Rosie will gang up on Felicia for having a dumb reason to join (even thought they don't know her real end goal) and Ronnie will downplay her own situation when she compares to Rosalind's.

But I also think that downplaying the importance of each situation, or saying "who needs it more" is nonsense, because the game itself also tells you that for each of the girls, their problem is just as big as everyone else's, each one of them is their own person, and they have a lot at stake here, via it might be their livelihood or their dream.
 

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Are you sure that's the case? As far as I can see by poking around with URM, Hana's line about Jerrica being over the moon only happens if Hana kissed the MC on stage. (Though in that case it will happen regardless of if Mina is involved with the MC.) If the MC sang on stage but didn't smooch Hana (i.e. if he went to see the band in Chapter 1 but didn't score with Hana in Week 3), then Hana pivots to asking Jerrica to live with her and Mina never has a chance to look forlorn.

It's entirely possible I'm missing something, but could you have mixed up where the second screenshot came from?
Actually, poking around more thoroughly, I think Fapparition might be right. The dialog tracks with Hana kissing the MC, but the flag checked (w3MinaRockShowKiss) is from Mina being kissed (which has a whole bunch of separate requirements). Maybe this is checking the wrong variable?
 

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Out of the 3, I'd say Rosie deserves it more, she's definitely in the most dire situation, at least when compared to the other 2, the order would be Rosie > Veronica > Felicia. Even the game itself recognizes this multiple times, when the carnations have talked between each other Vero and Rosie will gang up on Felicia for having a dumb reason to join (even thought they don't know her real end goal) and Ronnie will downplay her own situation when she compares to Rosalind's.

But I also think that downplaying the importance of each situation, or saying "who needs it more" is nonsense, because the game itself also tells you that for each of the girls, their problem is just as big as everyone else's, each one of them is their own person, and they have a lot at stake here, via it might be their livelihood or their dream.
Rose deserves it more and it has nothing to do with her in particular, but her poor daughter will sooner or later realize and will have to come to terms with the fact that her mother has been whoring herself for money and she has to already deal with having a completely poor excuse of a man as a father. I'd rather Rose win so maybe Nora has a a slim chance of ending up like Edwin and not become another employee of the city adult entertainment industry xD
 
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I was a few releases behind, finally caught up. A few thoughts.

We make fun of Rose's romance novel's flowery language then this line is put out there...
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...that is the same word we made fun of before.

Is it NTR, seeing MC's mom's casting video, even if the MC deletes that stuff at the end? If so, not cool for us NTR haters.

My MC(me), Mina and Hana throuple looks more promising with Mina and Hana discussing the possibility plus their kiss.
 
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soooo...I would like to get everyone's reasoning on which Carnation that they would like to see win? in my lowly opinion Rosa is there because she has no other choice. I don't know what the developers have in mund going forward but although I adore Mina and Hana I would love the opportunity to be able to choose Rosa at the end
I do think Rosie's debt is too small for her to be as desperate as portrayed. I know they gave her a line about it might as well be a million, but it's only 20 something grand. Since she is prepared to do anything, she could make that in a fairly short time as a high end escort on weekends with no need to submit to the degradatio of the carnation showcase. Certainly fast enough to keep the loan shark off her back. It should have been 10x to 200k. That's much more firmly in no other possible option.

Depending on choices, either Ian or Felicia can give Rosie 5 grand (20% of her debt) like it's nothing. Why isn't she looking to make a side deal with Felicia to drop out or throw the contest or with Ian to be a toy for a few months? 200k would make side deals based on Rosie's help a lot less possible (unless TD is leaving that possibility open?)
 

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Actually, poking around more thoroughly, I think Fapparition might be right. The dialog tracks with Hana kissing the MC, but the flag checked (w3MinaRockShowKiss) is from Mina being kissed (which has a whole bunch of separate requirements). Maybe this is checking the wrong variable?
I guess that answers it.

But just to make things crystal clear. No, in this save I'm not on Hana's path, like at all
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But I'm on Mina's path
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At the show I fully focus my choices on Mina until I get the scene with her upstairs. Then we have 2 sequential choises
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with 3 possible outcomes:
  1. Fuck it! => Now, lets cheer for Hana.
  2. Fuck it! => Take Mina to the bar.
  3. Caution, Edwin. Caution. => [no 2nd choice]
First and third choices bring Edwin to the stage, where he sings, nothing more. When we get this scene
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if Edwin was on the stage (1, 3 choices) Hana and Jerrica will comment about it
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BUT only the 1st choice adds additional dialog which starts with
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So, I assume, the additional dialog uses flags like "kissed Mina" and "went on stage" to trigger where it should uses "kissed Mina" and "kissed Hana" instead.

P.S. I see you there TD, liking the comments :illuminati: . It seems you have a minor bug to fix :HideThePain:
 
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