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Networking with rich people is incredibly easy to monetize.
Networking normally happen between people roughly equal in power and influence. I hope you remember the attitude of Eric towards Felicia during the art exhibition? Yes, he is a special kind of asshole but nevertheless this sums them all. Also the attitude of Grace towards Victoria.

For rich and influential people they always be just sluts. How Felicia in this sense is different from the house girls?

Potential investors for any business venture
And why would they invest into a business of a failed cheating housewife with no previous business experience?

Opportunities to invest in other members' business ventures
What does she have to invest? Her cheated husband's wealth? She wouldn't get any even if he wouldn't find about the Club and wouldn't divorce her leaving her penniless.

Inside information about a host of subjects, from a range of different people
Dalia or Harper know a lot of that. So what? Did it help them to become something more than just VIP-whores?

Potential favors from club members. Just some examples off the top of my head:
OK, they can even invite her to a party or two, still calling her a slut behind her back. How can it monetize?

Worst case scenario, blackmail material that she can use either
Aha, going the same direction as Darius :cool:

And, of course, the art thing. The school she wanted to save is gone, yeah, but the money and influence she'd have access to as a member would smooth the way for creating a new one. Or a gallery. Or boost a specific artist she loves and get others to buy their shit.
I still don't understand where the money is coming from.

The idea that someone as smart and motivated as Felicia would struggle to make money (or, crucially, make not-necessarily-monetary progress towards her goals) from the connections and influence she would gain from club membership is ludicrous.
Don't forget, Felicia is not some enclosed home dwelling housewife. She already has a lot of social connections. She has a busy social life. She is a professional gold digger, remember? She has snatched Elias somehow after all. How did all her social skills help her with building her independent capital or business so far?

She will somehow become a business woman? I think for her it is even worse than marrying Elias. She is an art type of person, not a business shark.

The club is a nexus for money and power in the city. The two things breed one another. Get one, and you have leverage to gain the other.
Somehow it didn't help the house girls who know a lot of the client's secrets and other important information. Why the club patrons shall treat Felicia differently seeing how she humiliates herself on the stage? For them she is just another of the Club whores with the only difference that she is a failed wife of one of their peers. Which IMO would make them look down and despise her even more than if she would be just an ordinary house girl.
 
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This game would have been perfect if there was sharing options :whistle:
There technically is, you get the option to have a threesome with Rose, Killian, and Edwin
We were teased with a Felicia Killian Edwin threesome but I think we got cockblocked there

Don't think there'll ever be a Mina/Hana/non carnation mmf threesome but who knows
 
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There technically is, you get the option to have a threesome with Rose, Killian, and Edwin
We were teased with a Felicia Killian Edwin threesome but I think we got cockblocked there

Don't think there'll ever be a Mina/Hana/non carnation mmf threesome but who knows
I liked it still gave us option to do it very early but after that, there wasn't any development on it... Not a fan of Rose :whistle:
 

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Networking normally happen between people roughly equal in power and influence. I hope you remember the attitude of Eric towards Felicia during the art exhibition? Yes, he is a special kind of asshole but nevertheless this sums them all. Also the attitude of Grace towards Victoria.

For rich and influential people they always be just sluts. How Felicia in this sense is different from the house girls?
Members are vastly different from house girls. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
And why would they invest into a business of a failed cheating housewife with no previous business experience?
The same reason anyone invests in anything ever: to make money. The potential ROI for a business opportunity doesn't necessarily depend on the person running the business. And as far as the rest of the world outside the club knows, Felicia is an upstanding citizen and connected socialite. Why wouldn't it be a good investment, assuming the business fundamentals are sound?
What does she have to invest? Her cheated husband's wealth? She wouldn't get any even if he wouldn't find about the Club and wouldn't divorce her leaving her penniless.
She's not penniless. None of us know this answer, obviously, but she clearly has some resources of her own, or she wouldn't have been in a position to offer Edwin a... retainer, let's call it.
Dalia or Harper know a lot of that. So what? Did it help them to become something more than just VIP-whores?
Again, members are very different from house girls. And for all we know, yes, maybe their knowledge will help them out once their contracts with the club are up. There's no way to tell.
OK, they can even invite her to a party or two, still calling her a slut behind her back. How can it monetize?
Donations for charity. Fundraising events. Charging admission and having people pay it because big names are there. This is another easy one.
For them she is just another of the Club whores with the only difference that she is a failed wife of one of their peers. Which IMO would make them look down and despise her even more than if she would be just an ordinary house girl.
This is really the crux of the issue, still. To you, Felicia is tainted, failed, disgusting, unworthy of respect, debased, nothing but a whore. To summarize in meme:

You can't get past your own opinion of Felicia and imagine anyone perceiving her differently. That's fine, but it's making you discount perfectly valid answers just because you don't see a difference between Felicia and the house girls. And if she loses, you're probably right! In fact, she'd be in an even worse position than the house girls. But if she wins, it's a completely different story.

I can't tell if you're arguing in bad faith, but I don't think you are, or at least not on purpose. I think you just legitimately can't see past your own reactions to imagine how anyone could view things in a different light. From where I sit (and maybe I'm wrong), it seems like you don't even really want to try. And that's perfectly fine too, but it makes it impossible to have a discussion.
 

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Members are vastly different from house girls. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
What do you think make a member in this case? Power and influence, not just a member card. Does Felicia have them to be treated as a peer by the other members? Mind you, they sometimes don't respect each other. Like Samson, for example. He is a member, fine, but does he have much influence over other members?

Felicia is an upstanding citizen and connected socialite. Why wouldn't it be a good investment, assuming the business fundamentals are sound?
Sorry but you have very strange understanding of the business, it seems to me. To be a successful businessman you need to have a knack for it and have some original ideas. Otherwise you end up like Veronica. There are lots of "upstanding citizens and connected socialites" around. It doesn't mean that all the rich people are in a great hurry to bring their money to them. These people wouldn't be rich if they behaved like that. :sneaky:

She's not penniless. None of us know this answer, obviously, but she clearly has some resources of her own, or she wouldn't have been in a position to offer Edwin a... retainer, let's call it.
Well, as someone argued here (not me) that apparently Elias has concluded such a contract with her, that she doesn't get much wealth from him even if they divorce. Otherwise she wouldn't go through all this shit as a Carnation. And she would be able to save the art school first of all.

Again, members are very different from house girls. And for all we know, yes, maybe their knowledge will help them out once their contracts with the club are up. There's no way to tell.
Again, what is worth a member without power and money, especially the one who has publicly degraded and humiliated themselves. They may accept her in the Club, doesn't mean they will respect her.

Donations for charity. Fundraising events. Charging admission and having people pay it because big names are there. This is another easy one.
I thought her name is Felicia Ford, not Hillary Clinton :ROFLMAO: Seriously, who is she that the rich people would donate money to her? Charity is often a cover for money laundering or some other hidden agendas.

This is really the crux of the issue, still. To you, Felicia is tainted, failed, disgusting, unworthy of respect, debased, nothing but a whore.
No, I know that she is talented, smart , beautiful and knows her ways with the men. But after the exhibition and betrayal of Elias the Club members will see her as a whore.

You can't get past your own opinion of Felicia and imagine anyone perceiving her differently.
My opinion of Felicia is how she is written in the game according to her actions. Let's imagine, you meet an ex wife of your colleague who, as you know, has cheated on him, destroyed his reputation and his career and went to perform as a strip dancer and a hooker. Would you, for some weird reason "invest" in her, make her a center of your social circle, get her acquainted with all your friends?

I said a few times that Felicia is one of my favorite girls in the game (after Hana and Mina). But I know the people and the world a bit and I know how they work. If I would be a rich powerful person, I wouldn't trust Felicia a little bit, knowing her past and present.

I mean, one thing for a young guy like Edwin to fuck this hot beautiful prize wife. I myself had a couple of affairs like that when I was young. ;)Another thing, for the people of power to accept her as equal. Even Samson has no respect for her and he himself is at the bottom of this pyramid.

As I said before, I hope the Devs in the new updates will come with yet another interesting and feasible plot twist regarding Felicia which explains everything. What for your attempt to explain it, sorry, I don't buy it. It doesn't work this way.
 
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PS I see that many people jump in a hurry to defend the present version of Felicia's plan while forgetting that the Devs themselves implied many times that it is very risky and unreliable. Especially now when Elias is invited in the Club. On the other hand, it is Version 2.0 of her plan. I have to remind you that Version 1.0 was simply "to have fun". Than later in the game came the Version 2.0 "to get connections". Are you all so sure that there is no Vesion 3.0 and that Felicia has already put all her cards on the table?
 
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I thought he said he wouldn't talk more about it though
Some people still continue to argue with me on this topic. I said a few times I would be content with any good solution that the Devs would bring up in the future. For some reason these people believe that the plan that she voiced so far is the real and final one (though not many details were unveiled by Felicia) and because these people like the game very much (I do as well) they blindly defend everything about it, even if it is just another facade put up by the clever, calculating and manipulative gold digger.
I don't want to continue on that until the exhibition is finished and the results a clear, but when directly addressed I feel obliged to reply.
 
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What do you think make a member in this case? Power and influence, not just a member card.
Technically it is just a member card. The game notes that members' power and influence cover pretty wide range, and a number of them is so insignificant in that regard we don't even get to see them. They just make use of the house girls and don't even show up at the exhibition. They still get to brush shoulders with the more influential members, though.

My opinion of Felicia is how she is written in the game according to her actions.
No, your opinion is just that, your own opinion. The game doesn't have any sort of objective narrator who'd describe Felicia in a way you perceive and keep talking about her. It is literally your own narrowminded take combined with similarly inflexible idea of "what rich people are like", and nothing else.

Let's imagine, you meet an ex wife of your colleague who, as you know, has cheated on him, destroyed his reputation and his career and went to perform as a strip dancer and a hooker. Would you, for some weird reason "invest" in her, make her a center of your social circle, get her acquainted with all your friends?
Maybe. It depends how interesting she was and what she'd have to offer. I know, inconceivable. "But she was a stripper! And a hooker!" and let me ask you, "And so fucking what?"
 
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It is literally your own narrowminded take combined with similarly inflexible idea of "what rich people are like", and nothing else.
The rich people are people. They just have more resources and have more freedom in their actions but they are not monsters or aliens from another planet. Also, they are mostly not too stupid (I believe ;) ) .

Maybe. It depends how interesting she was and what she'd have to offer. I know, inconceivable. "But she was a stripper! And a hooker!" and let me ask you, "And so fucking what?"
Well, I don't know. Would you marry a prostitute, for example, especially if you have large choice. You can argue that she might have a brain of Einstein but why she has become a prostitute in this case :LOL: And anyway, do you want to sleep with Einstein? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Technically it is just a member card. The game notes that members' power and influence cover pretty wide range, and a number of them is so insignificant in that regard we don't even get to see them. They just make use of the house girls and don't even show up at the exhibition. They still get to brush shoulders with the more influential members, though.


No, your opinion is just that, your own opinion. The game doesn't have any sort of objective narrator who'd describe Felicia in a way you perceive and keep talking about her. It is literally your own narrowminded take combined with similarly inflexible idea of "what rich people are like", and nothing else.
Weeeeeell, to be fair to get fucked on a stage (or even weirder stuff) is not something which creates respect and a good foundation for a future buisness perspective.

Its more like the opposite that you (usually) dont want to have your money and name connected to this stuff in public.

And i at least agree with the poster that felicia's plan is not really the most cunning and smartest move possible in her playbook lol. There are a lot of possible reasons which arent completly rational (like thrill-seeking) a part of it.

I would argue barely any of the members are there for smart rationale reasons either lol (only the doc and his assistant).

But i mean, thats kinda the thing, everyone in this story is a bit fucked up and lets not pretend that the setup of the club is overly realistic with all this investment/roi talk here lol
 

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The rich people are people. They just have more resources and have more freedom in their actions but they are not monsters or aliens from another planet. Also, they are mostly not too stupid (I believe ;) ) .
The whole point of people being people is that they are all different rather than nothing but your clones, thinking like you do and having no opinions other than your own. Some won't give a flying fuck about things that apparently raise your hackles. Some may even appreciate them instead of being disgusted, finding it entertaining or whatever.

I mean, you have people disagreeing with your take in this very thread. You think rich people will be different in this regard and will all universally agree with you instead, because they're rich?
 

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Well, I don't know. Would you marry a prostitute, for example, especially if you have large choice. You can argue that she might have a brain of Einstein but why she has become a prostitute in this case :LOL: And anyway, do you want to sleep with Einstein? :ROFLMAO:
Depends, an active escort? Probably not, very much a "depends" question.

Former one? Yeah, it's a job. No shame in it.
If it was because she was trafficed into it? Yeah, 100% no issue with it.
 

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Depends, an active escort? Probably not, very much a "depends" question.

Former one? Yeah, it's a job. No shame in it.
If it was because she was trafficed into it? Yeah, 100% no issue with it.
So, you are a rich powerful person who can have almost any girl. You know for sure that she is a gold digger who cheated on her husband, almost certainly ruined his political career and social reputation, voluntarily degraded and humiliated herself to the lowest level. Would you marry her or have business with her? Honestly?
 
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