VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[torresm]

Hey guys, I can't see this picture here, but there are no problems with other preview pictures. Does anyone have a solution?

Here, did a magic trick for you.

 

[dante4ever]

Here, did a magic trick for you.

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Andrea

 

[ffive]

Has the Dev confirmed the existence of a purely exclusive companion storyline? That is, can the MC not share all main female characters?

The basic premise of this game is that the MC doesn't have any real say in what the main characters are put through. So, no.

(not to mention one of them is married and still performs her "marital duties", again with MC having no say in this regard)

 

[hotdtakagi]

will there be new victoria scenes? without the blur of course xd

 

[MrTrue]

will there be new victoria scenes? without the blur of course xd

Answer from TD when asked about the same thing last week:

Don't worry, you will. Consider how the last update ended.
It'd be kinda messed up to have GIL make an original animation only to blur it.

 

[slightchance]

On the one hand, I really would *not* want to do anything sexual with a girlfriend (or even a FWB) anywhere near the Club. On the other hand, the math checks out: Hana is hot. Not sure which of these two irresistible forces will win out, but I'm certainly eager to start the experiments!

I completely understand you. Hana's not only become a trustworthy ally but is an honest and compassionate person, on top of being a fervent lover. Of course you had to fall in love with her, I mean, who wouldn't? Not even Jeff & Mutt are immune to her charm. Still, for the story to move forward, it's not sufficient to write her into a corner like that. I think. We haven't seen the dark side of her yet.

Until Edwin comes around, she's only been the sexy bartender, a role she was pressured into by her father to be able to care for her mom. Despite being concerned for the well-being of the sex workers around her, she has mostly kept to herself to bide her time, I guess. Her resentment towards the club has more to do with how things are being handled and not with the acts themselves. Hana's not a prude, far from it, and so she feels rather indifferent about the things happening around her.

Then Edwin The Catalyst shows up. She warms up to Killian, someone she profusely disliked before, and even the games seem to not be a complete horror show anymore after she gets involved in the club's main attraction where she can observe Edwin from the sidelines. It surely plays into Kathleen's hand that Edwin (or Felicia) is a willing participant in all of this, a possible lover/confidant who she also shares the same backstory with.

So where to go from there? It's not out of the question anymore that Hana will find some sort of enjoyment in her new role. Even if she'll never measure up to Kathleen's sadistic tendencies, there's still room for other kinks she hasn't had time to explore yet, especially since she's not alone in this fight anymore. There's a chance now that she realizes some of them want to use you, some of the want to get used by you...

I'd love to see her finding joy in being humiliated, degraded, and the thrill of the unknown. There's something magical about a strong-minded gorgeous girl willingly handing over the reign to someone 'beneath' her. Someone who has trouble fighting the sudden heart attack after realizing that the leash in their hand means they could do almost anything they wanted to do with her. Someone who gets tunnel vision and forgets the other person in the room because they're too excited living out the fantasy of being in control. I'd like her to let go in those moments, to feel everything all at once, The pain, the heat, the lust, I want her to bath in the rabbid craving they have for her because they instinctively know they can only take what they were given - and it may happen only once.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Of course. Question is: has anyone else in the club noticed?

People in the club are probably wondering how they can get Hana to whore herself out.

 

[slightchance]

People in the club are probably wondering how they can get Hana to whore herself out.

Certainly. There is already one scene where she turns Isaak's request to have a drink with her down. She's fuming and calls him a creep so she isn't even entertaining the thought of light conversation. This can only change, I guess, if Hana's perspective changes. Perhaps through a kink she wasn't aware off that's not exactly vanilla, the drugs Kathleen is working on or through Edwin and his friends. The Hana from the beginning probably wouldn't have enjoyed getting spat on in her workplace while being called a hooker but here we are.

 

[drapping5]

I'm waiting for Killian and Victoria scene! )

 

[bonerland]

People in the club are probably wondering how they can get Hana to whore herself out.

Without ending up at the bottom of Chesapeake Bay.

 

[Ozymandias037]

I completely understand you. Hana's not only become a trustworthy ally but is an honest and compassionate person, on top of being a fervent lover. Of course you had to fall in love with her, I mean, who wouldn't? Not even Jeff & Mutt are immune to her charm. Still, for the story to move forward, it's not sufficient to write her into a corner like that. I think. We haven't seen the dark side of her yet.

Until Edwin comes around, she's only been the sexy bartender, a role she was pressured into by her father to be able to care for her mom. Despite being concerned for the well-being of the sex workers around her, she has mostly kept to herself to bide her time, I guess. Her resentment towards the club has more to do with how things are being handled and not with the acts themselves. Hana's not a prude, far from it, and so she feels rather indifferent about the things happening around her.

Then Edwin The Catalyst shows up. She warms up to Killian, someone she profusely disliked before, and even the games seem to not be a complete horror show anymore after she gets involved in the club's main attraction where she can observe Edwin from the sidelines. It surely plays into Kathleen's hand that Edwin (or Felicia) is a willing participant in all of this, a possible lover/confidant who she also shares the same backstory with.

So where to go from there? It's not out of the question anymore that Hana will find some sort of enjoyment in her new role. Even if she'll never measure up to Kathleen's sadistic tendencies, there's still room for other kinks she hasn't had time to explore yet, especially since she's not alone in this fight anymore. There's a chance now that she realizes some of them want to use you, some of the want to get used by you...

I'd love to see her finding joy in being humiliated, degraded, and the thrill of the unknown. There's something magical about a strong-minded gorgeous girl willingly handing over the reign to someone 'beneath' her. Someone who has trouble fighting the sudden heart attack after realizing that the leash in their hand means they could do almost anything they wanted to do with her. Someone who gets tunnel vision and forgets the other person in the room because they're too excited living out the fantasy of being in control. I'd like her to let go in those moments, to feel everything all at once, The pain, the heat, the lust, I want her to bath in the rabbid craving they have for her because they instinctively know they can only take what they were given - and it may happen only once.

There's such a thing as spoiler tags, y'know. Jussayin.

But also: Hot. Unlikely in my opinion, but hot.

 

[Zuze6]

HANACOIN UP
INVEST

Very patiently waiting on those Kat stocks.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Certainly. There is already one scene where she turns Isaak's request to have a drink with her down. She's fuming and calls him a creep so she isn't even entertaining the thought of light conversation. This can only change, I guess, if Hana's perspective changes. Perhaps through a kink she wasn't aware off that's not exactly vanilla, the drugs Kathleen is working on or through Edwin and his friends. The Hana from the beginning probably wouldn't have enjoyed getting spat on in her workplace while being called a hooker but here we are.

I also doubt that she will ever be involved sexually with the club, those kinds of kinks will probably be for the MC only. But she definitely will do stuff at the club, just not for the club. We also saw that already.

Without ending up at the bottom of Chesapeake Bay.

Yeah, they gotta watch out for her father. Maybe if they did something with masks where nobody knows who the other people are, that might be doable. And fun.

 

[slightchance]

Yeah, they gotta watch out for her father. Maybe if they did something with masks where nobody knows who the other people are, that might be doable. And fun.

You mean the guy who was absent all her life, the one who showed her mom the middle finger when she got pregnant with her, and who is now dressing her own daughter in sexy lingerie to work in a club where women are being taken advantage off? For someone who's trying to set up a new legacy they're surprisingly unfazed by how she's seen by the other patrons. Maybe it's an unwritten rule to not touch the boss' daughter, maybe he doesn't give a fuck how she handles the situation as long as she's in control. Kathleen can dish out as much she can take as well and no one seems to question her authority.

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[Wagwan1891]

This is a truly great AVN I just have a question. After getting in Minas pants for the first time and onwards all the girls seems to all of a sudden develop an obsession with headwear during sex. Anyone know why?

They keep moaning the word 'haaat' over and over, very peculiar..

 

[torresm]

This is truly great AVN I just have a question. After getting in Minas pants for the first time and onwards all the girls seems to all of a sudden develop an obsession with headwear during sex. Anyone know why?

They keep moaning the word 'haaat' over and over, very peculiar..

They started playing TF2 around that time.

 

[Wagwan1891]

They started playing TF2 around that time.

I was thinking maybe the girls are cold since they're naked at the time of saying 'hat' over and over. They just want a hat to wear and MC is being mighty selfish or perhaps bad at picking up on their not so subtle hints since he's never provided one for the obviously freezing poor girls.

For shame sir! Foor shaame!

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

You mean the guy who was absent all her life, the one who showed her mom the middle finger when she got pregnant with her, and who is now dressing her own daughter in sexy lingerie to work in a club where women are being taken advantage off? For someone who's trying to set up a new legacy they're surprisingly unfazed by how she's seen by the other patrons. Maybe it's an unwritten rule to not touch the boss' daughter, maybe he doesn't give a fuck how she handles the situation as long as she's in control. Kathleen can dish out as much she can take as well and no one seems to question her authority.

I think he would be more impressed by her if she took advantage of the situation and not be as passive. He knows she's in the game because of her mother's bills, not because she wants to connect with her criminal dad. She could already have patrons left and right paying extra for her silence or a stake in the club's future if she played her cards right and she wouldn't even have to get naked for it. Or she could engage with the patrons just to fuck with his business if he really was that protective all of the sudden. Then again who's to say what happens if she actually slept with half of the club? Would he slash the clubs income in half to make a statement? I don't think so. There are hundred ways where she could have her cake and eat it too.

Well, when you put it like that...
I was just going off the other comment, who seemed to imply that if anyone tried to get Hana to do exhibition stuff would have to deal with her father and the consequences of it.
But I always assumed her father wanted her to be a part of the club from the business side, not the sex side.

 

[slightchance]

I was just going off the other comment, who seemed to imply that if anyone tried to get Hana to do exhibition stuff would have to deal with her father and the consequences of it.

That's implied. At least Kathleen and Warren have a very brief discussion about it:

"Well, we could always give her (Hana) a spanking or put her in the corner for a time out."
"Wouldn't mind going that route."
"I know you wouldn't but alas..."
"Our hands are tied?"
"No. There's always a path."

Then again there many different moving parts and we don't know what August's real motivations are/were.

But I always assumed her father wanted her to be a part of the club from the business side, not the sex side.

It's possible his initial plan didn't go beyond dangling Hana in front of all the other members, trying to bait those stupid enough to openly lay fingers on her. Even then, as we've already seen, there are still those who will test the waters and see how far they can go. Besides, I don't think August would respect someone who isn't capable of standing up for themself. Not if you want to survive against all the other sharks in this business as long as he has.

Edit: Let's not forget he's got no problem with Edwin hitting it off with his daughter after such a short time. They literally just met. The dude who was hired as a walking meat pole and who's got nothing to show for except a student card.

 

[Ottoeight]

That's implied. At least Kathleen and Warren have a very brief discussion about it:



Then again there many different moving parts and we don't know what August's real motivations are/were.



It's possible his initial plan didn't go beyond dangling Hana in front of all the other members, trying to bait those stupid enough to openly lay fingers on her. Even then, as we've already seen, there are still those who will test the waters and see how far they can go. Besides, I don't think August would respect someone who isn't capable of standing up for themself. Not if you want to survive against all the other sharks in this business as long as he has.

Edit: Let's not forget he's got no problem with Edwin hitting it off with his daughter after such a short time. They literally just met. The dude who was hired as a walking meat pole and who's got nothing to show for except a student card.

To put it bluntly, you simply are imagining things.

Your interpretation of the dialogue between Kathleen and Warren is one of the weirdest misconceptions I've ever read on this thread.

Your interpretation of August's motives is... well, crazy: why can't you simply realise that the words people like Auggie say simply mean what they literally mean by saying the words they say?