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Emperor1

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Victoria gets so many flashbacks because I like seeing them and my character writing is about as subtle as a brick. I simply started from the premise that moms slutting themselves out is hot, and then tried to hang some pathos off that/make it fit a story. That's all there is to it. The fact it drives some people mad is just an incdental bonus.
But still It can become a great path, i mean think about, you have already made a path where the "mom" wants to sell the house, maybe because of money problems, and now she's beck to the "club" and mc has to take care of her, their bond "deepens" and somehow in one ending they end up together, i mean come on, pretty please, I have been playing this game since the beginning/release, and stuck to it because it implied mom/son, i know hundreds of incest games are out there but this is completely different, so again pretty please, do if for a fan TT
 

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But still It can become a great path, i mean think about, you have already made a path where the "mom" wants to sell the house, maybe because of money problems, and now she's beck to the "club" and mc has to take care of her, their bond "deepens" and somehow in one ending they end up together, i mean come on, pretty please, I have been playing this game since the beginning/release, and stuck to it because it implied mom/son, i know hundreds of incest games are out there but this is completely different, so again pretty please, do if for a fan TT
Least horny incest lover. :Kappa:
 

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But still It can become a great path, i mean think about, you have already made a path where the "mom" wants to sell the house, maybe because of money problems, and now she's beck to the "club" and mc has to take care of her, their bond "deepens" and somehow in one ending they end up together, i mean come on, pretty please, I have been playing this game since the beginning/release, and stuck to it because it implied mom/son, i know hundreds of incest games are out there but this is completely different, so again pretty please, do if for a fan TT
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You have to let it go, brother. It's for your own mental well-being.
 

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In this case, the answer is: because, in my opinion, the developers themselves are playing with this fetish and repeatedly dangling this carrot in front of the players.
Well, in my opinion they are doing no such thing. Your mother didn't dangle an incest carrot in front of you by giving birth to you, or by having breasts. And if you have a sister, she also doesn't exist to dangle a carrot in front of you. Neither does you sister dangle an incest carrot in front of you by not having died quickly, or by not having run away from home, or, gasp, even by going through puberty.

The incest taboo isn't just a taboo of all societies worldwide; there is a natural biological process that prevents people from being sexually interested in anyone they grew up with or anyone who grew up with them. It obviously doesn't work in all cases, and can be overridden in other cases. But everyone in Pale Carnations behaves in ways that are 100% compatible with the biological anti-incest mechanism being 100% working in their cases.

PS: You could argue that different to real life and regular fiction, in porn every living female relative is an instance of . However, Chekhov's gun need not be fired by the protagonist. It can instead be fired by someone else. Or the protagonist can rely on it only to discover, when he needs it, that he forgot to buy ammunition. Or someone else can use it to beat the protagonist to death. Or it may become the reason for the police to search the protagonist's house, in which search they find his stash of illegal drugs.

Returning to female relatives, in the absence of very specific signals, most of us will not jump to the conclusion that the protagonist will have sex with them, because most of us are actually not interested in incest. Though of course a lot of porn consumers are, making it economically rewarding to include this kink. But there are enough people without this kink to make stories without incest perfectly viable as well.
 
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But still It can become a great path, i mean think about, you have already made a path where the "mom" wants to sell the house, maybe because of money problems, and now she's beck to the "club" and mc has to take care of her, their bond "deepens" and somehow in one ending they end up together, i mean come on, pretty please, I have been playing this game since the beginning/release, and stuck to it because it implied mom/son, i know hundreds of incest games are out there but this is completely different, so again pretty please, do if for a fan TT
Hey, if there's something you truly want and it doesn't exist in the market, maybe you should be the one to create it
 
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5 years of following the game and everything goes to waste because there will be no incest. What a cruel world we live in :cry:
where did you hear there will be incest? Because it ain't in the tags and the devs never said it would.
 

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I quite literally will never understand why people beg for incest, I feel like seeing Victoria scenes should be enough, you can see her get fucked in the flashbacks, and hell maybe in the present at some point, but why does it have to be Edwin the one who fucks her? what does it add?

From my experience, incest plots tend to have horrible buildup. It's always "Omg I'm so horny because my son has a 20 inch dick and I'm sexually frustrated so I have to fuck him" (?) the lead-up scenes are awkward as hell and just terrible writing. No visual novel I've read has made me feel like incest has added anything meaningful to the relationship, even if some handle it better than others, most just end up using the the same clichés.

They could write about a younger character falling in love with an older woman and actually go in depth on how that whole relationship could go, but no, it's always the same cliche bullshit scenes. Do people really get hard just for thinking someone is fucking their own mom? is that all it takes? I guess Sigmund Freud was fucking right.
 

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I quite literally will never understand why people beg for incest, I feel like seeing Victoria scenes should be enough, you can see her get fucked in the flashbacks, and hell maybe in the present at some point, but why does it have to be Edwin the one who fucks her? what does it add?

From my experience, incest plots tend to have horrible buildup. It's always "Omg I'm so horny because my son has a 20 inch dick and I'm sexually frustrated so I have to fuck him" (?) the lead-up scenes are awkward as hell and just terrible writing. No visual novel I've read has made me feel like incest has added anything meaningful to the relationship, even if some handle it better than others, most just end up using the the same clichés.

They could write about a younger character falling in love with an older woman and actually go in depth on how that whole relationship could go, but no, it's always the same cliche bullshit scenes. Do people really get hard just for thinking someone is fucking their own mom? is that all it takes? I guess Sigmund Freud was fucking right.
It would make no sense, it would feel too forced and honestly Rosalind relationship already has too many parallels with Victoria, it would practically be a copy of that.
 

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It would make no sense, it would feel too forced and honestly Rosalind relationship already has too many parallels with Victoria, it would practically be a copy of that.
I have always seen Victoria as his pillar. Just like Kathleen explores more of that sadistic side Edwin has, Victoria represents an inspiration for him to not indulge into it, to not become like the people at the Carnation Club while working there.

Besides, it's not as if he jerks after seeing his mom's porn films. He's shocked about the revelation.
 
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We don't see it, but don't think it says anywhere that he don't. I suspect he does jerk to his mother porn and then feel guilty because of it, just my oppinion though :unsure:
How do you even imagine Edwin jerking off to porn with his mom and saying "thank you mother for your sacrifice?" You're an even bigger pervert than Chuck :sneaky:

In that situation, Edwin would immediately jump several heads above any old fart in the club in terms of depravity :ROFLMAO:
 
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How do you even imagine Edwin jerking off to porn with his mom and saying "thank you mother for your sacrifice?" You're an even bigger pervert than Chuck :sneaky:

In that situation, Edwin would immediately jump several heads above any old fart in the club in terms of depravity :ROFLMAO:
Really? I don't see it that way, Edwin like to watch the videos right? Be for sadistic reasons or because they turn him on.
If they turn him on, I can see him jerking off to them and then after cuming feeling disgusted and ashamed like he have done something wrong.
But maybe it's just my imagination o_O
 
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