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nalgonas4ever

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You know as we are close to finishing up the third exhibition, and entering the final week, sadly, I hope for big dates. I feel like some characters didn't get big dates or outings. Rose and Mina.

Rose is one of my favorite characters, so I hope fo see a big date from her, going out to dinner, or doing some fun activity, rather than just stay in the apartment. And Mina's felt kind of short, then went to hotel.

So we can give big dates to all characters, I guess, but I think these two need something big, considering that the other 3 had big outings already, so this is one of my wants for the final week, especially Rose, I want a big romantic date, ending in a very sweet long romantic love scene with her, cause her main update of the week, just felt a bit short and quick to me, and would like something a bit more substantial from her, imo.
I agree with you, however, the relationship between the MC and Rose is quite interesting, practically the same situation her mother face for him, their interactions have been more about ther circumstances and less of their connections besides the club and the exhibition and Rose in need of more than just love and passion, makes me think that unless he shows her a safe future for her and her daughter then a happy ending for both of them isn't in the cards. At least that's how I've been reading them, granted I prioritize Veronica and Felicia precisly because it doesn't feel like theres a possibility for an equals relationship for them.
 

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I remember TD said a while ago that Hana is the reason half the player base play the game, so you're not alone ;)
And there's no reason or indication she would ever be written off, can't really remember how this started but it was a joke from someone just that (y)
That many huh? I guess the whole "big titty goth gf" meme exists for a reason, they just have that effect on people. I'll admit I'm one of her victims too, with Felicia being the other big reason.
 
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And I admit some of it is a little disturbing for me personally but I stuck with it and the reason was Hannah
If she were written out I'm not sure I would stay as much as I like the other characters
The writing is brilliant but of all the characters Hannah is the one I connect with the most
In fact I took the boyfriend path with her because I found her that compelling
Hana and Mina are my reasons to keep playing it. I tried Pale Carnations way back when I was still new to AVNs and I probably quit it 3 times at the very beginning before deciding to stick with it. Those two were why I kept coming back, as well as hearing most people sing the game praises all the time. And after getting through the first exhibition, it's quite obvious why people do it. I'm still weirded out about the mom's porn thing and how Edward feels about it, but the writing overall is top tier and it's hard to believe the game is made in HS1 because the renders are so good too.

Funnily enough, I'm also normally quite averse to tattooed and/or pierced girls, but Hana is definitely one of the exceptions.
 

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maybe stop self inserting yourself as the protagonist next time ?
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The problem lies elsewhere, since even if you self-insert as the MC and are also a very nice guy, you do not have to feel like a cuck! On the contrary! I think the menioned situation arises from a far too wide definition of cuckold. Something we can see in many game threads.

Now the other girls are great and normally I'm not into girls with tattoos but there's just something about Hanna
Maybe because I've looked after a sick family and I see what a good girl she is with a little bit of a bad streak
If Hannah was written out of the game I'm about 75% sure I probably not continue
And right now this is on my top games list I'd be really disappointed if they removed her
As I wrote in another post, Hana belongs to the group of game characters TD1900 simply invented right from the start, even if he sometimes seems to believe he is too in the face with some characterisations.
How right Hana came out can be seen that she is one of my favourite characters, in traits and looks. And like you, I normally find girls tattooed to this heavy degree as Hana is to be a turn off. So both TD and GIL did her really well.
My reasons when it comes to characters I keep playing the game for are in no particular order: Hana, Felicia and Sophia.

As for this peculiar thing of Hana getting written out of the plot, this is just a joke by a user gone on to it´s own life for whatever reason.
 
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Nothing worse for an author than having created characters they're not allowed to kill because the fanbase would lynch them. And an empty stomach, maybe, but that's beside the point.
We went from writing Hana off the game to Kill her o_O now you will scare even more people :ROFLMAO:

PS: this is a joke guys
 

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We went from writing Hana off the game to Kill her o_O now you will scare even more people :ROFLMAO:
I was thinking more about character assassination right now and how authors are being cornered by their fans which can tank their creativity because they feel obligated to deliver a product and not a new idea. We have had many voices here expressing their love for a character that it must be difficult to ignore the pleas to do them no harm or write them in a way that would make them look less favorable to a broader audience (e.g Mina finally feels comfortable enough to eat a booger in front of Edwin, Sophia expresses her love for smelly socks, Hana can't stand the taste of bell pepper).
 

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I was thinking more about character assassination right now and how authors are being cornered by their fans which can tank their creativity because they feel obligated to deliver a product and not a new idea. We have had many voices here expressing their love for a character that it must be difficult to ignore the pleas to do them no harm or write them in a way that would make them look less favorable to a broader audience (e.g Mina finally feels comfortable enough to eat a booger in front of Edwin, Sophia expresses her love for smelly socks, Hana can't stand the taste of bell pepper).
I agree, yeah and using some more serious examples, if TD decides to have Hana or Mina on a MMF threesome or something it would have the same effect as killing them off to some fans.
 

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We went from writing Hana off the game to Kill her o_O now you will scare even more people :ROFLMAO:

PS: this is a joke guys
This game probably have a bad ending, so what's the worst thing could happen to Hana? And with this story setting, i don't think character death is off the list.
 
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This game probably have a bad ending, so what's the worst thing could happen to Hana? And with this story setting, i don't think certain character death is off the list.
True, haven't considered it, I still doubt any LI will die, but if it happens I can see it at the end on a "bad ending" setting yeah.
 

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you do not have to feel like a cuck! On the contrary! I think the menioned situation arises from a far too wide definition of cuckold. Something we can see in many game threads.
most people who complain about it are those who think if any of the LIs ever have sex with anyone other than the MC
then it's "cuck" or "NTR" even if the LIs have done it before meeting the MC or even if it's in an alternative scenario depending on the MCs choice

most definitions and semantics people use to define their opinions on such topics are very vague too

but such comparisons doesn't end there with defining who is a "cuck" or what can be considered as "NTR"

for example i remember arguing with multiple people few months ago over sexuality of Veronica and whether she truly liked/loves the MC or not

their main arguments were that since is a bi-sexual women who leans heavily towards the lesbian side

she can't by the general definition of the word truly ever love the MC as she loves women and she and the MC can't be together in the future as the best they could hope for is a fling

all of them even though have played the same game and seen the same scenes with the MC and Veronica seem to dissociate from what they're literally seeing and playing in because of some vague definition in their mind of what they consider a lesbian/bi woman should be like

Nothing worse for an author than having created characters they're not allowed to kill because the fanbase would lynch them. And an empty stomach, maybe, but that's beside the point.
not to sound like a complete contrarian
but i would rather have an alternative ending for a character i love like Veronica where she "leaves" the game earlier in a short and sweet ending rather than force here to be a participant all way the through to the final ending and to only torment her further for amusement of the club patrons

after all from a purely meta narrative point of view if you truly love/like a character would you rather hope that they get a sweet ending or would you just like the members of the ingame club wish to put them through all kinds of tests,trials and tribulations for your entertainment and more "content"

for example i would rather have Veronica quit or just have some kind of Deus Ex Machina ending rather than again be humiliated or put through some kind of sick and twisted punishment like what happened when she hit samson

but everyone knows that's what going to happen if she sticks around till the final episode of the game and worse things could happen to her if she looses the final round

it could happen to any of the LIs too
everyone of them will be subjected to further and further humiliations and torment as the game gets closer and closer to it's finale

so that's why I would prefer that i character i love getting an earlier end off rather than be dragged all the way to the ending to suffer more

sure i would hate the fact that cutting off a character prematurely before the ending means less content for that particular character and it would definitely impact the storyline of that particular character too

but it would work in favour of the character depending on the ending and the epilogue of the game
 
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