VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Turret]

I had 15 pages of saves, but I formatted the PC... now I'll need to replay the game, does anyone have any tips on which parts are important or branches that may be important for update?

Honestly if you are going to replay the game, just do all paths, this game doesn't really have routes that close out others, have fun and interact with all the girls.

That being said, it is known Hana GF will have some exclusive content next update, so keep that in mind. There were some comments about Sophia too, but I doubt her content will be gated behind any choice so far, tho the game has a few instances where she's more polite to you if she likes you based on stuff you've done, but no idea if that will matter when it comes to her scenes next update .

Hi!
I agree with pinuz1 that the easiest way is to speed replay all paths. But while the game currently does not exclude path variants per se, it can happen if you optimise your playthrough for certain characters. For instance, on a playthrough focused on Hana and Felicia I could not gain enough Veronica points at the time the fork opened if you stay simply friendly with Veronica or can deepen your relationship with her. For me that was not important so no problem here, but those liking Veronica more should know this.

I also agree that the Sophia meeting coming up in the update will most probably not be gated by how we treated her and how much she likes us, but I theorise it might impact if it stays a strictly business meeting or can go further.

 

[HornyGuy0690]

Wanna make uncle Auggie angry and sleep with the fish?

Why would August be angry tho? He doesn’t strike me as a helicopter parent.

 

[Vic Sage]

I'm trying to find the path to be hana's BF, reject Mina and then get the opportunity to change my mind at the park. I just can't seem to get there.

I'm trying to follow the pdf walk through but I guess I'm missing something.

any pointers?

You can't. The HanaGF flag removes the park scene

 

[shroomify]

You can't. The HanaGF flag removes the park scene

It seems the Hana FB tag does as well.

 

[Turret]

It seems the Hana FB tag does as well.

No, the "Fuckbuddy" flag does not remove the Mina 180° move in the park. You need also at least(off the cuff) 23 Mina points to have that option.

 

[Ottoeight]

Why would August be angry tho? He doesn’t strike me as a helicopter parent.

These guys don't get angry. They simply act when something is bothering their business and/or their family.

Did you forget the scene where Otto's young underling disrespected Hana? it wasn't Auggie who stopped Otto: it was Hana.

Anyway, I was joking.

By the way, I can't see why you would want Edwin to cuck Hana: If you want to see him bang all the bitches, just go with the fuckbuddies path.

It seems the Hana FB tag does as well.

Nope.

 

[mrbombadil]

I honestly don't understand why in my game Rosalind's path is closed. It has been closed since forever it feels like and I have no idea why. It's so frustrating.

I feel like I only interacted with her seriously at the very beginning where I did "take advantage" of the opportunity, so to speak. But I mean, that seemed exactly like what I thought this game was about. It seems she never got over it or something. I find it annoying.

 

[ffive]

I honestly don't understand why in my game Rosalind's path is closed. It has been closed since forever it feels like and I have no idea why. It's so frustrating.

I feel like I only interacted with her seriously at the very beginning where I did "take advantage" of the opportunity, so to speak. But I mean, that seemed exactly like what I thought this game was about. It seems she never got over it or something. I find it annoying.

You might want to check out the walkthrough to be sure, but IIRC Edwin has to show some sort of remorse or at least consideration afterwards or otherwise behave like a semi-decent human being, for Rosie to conclude that he may respond positively to the idea of helping her.

 

[FRVN]

I honestly don't understand why in my game Rosalind's path is closed. It has been closed since forever it feels like and I have no idea why. It's so frustrating.

I feel like I only interacted with her seriously at the very beginning where I did "take advantage" of the opportunity, so to speak. But I mean, that seemed exactly like what I thought this game was about. It seems she never got over it or something. I find it annoying.

So, you took advantage of a woman, and are surprised she wants nothing to do with you?

In order to be on her path, you need to take her out to coffee, which means either not taking advantage of her or apologizing after doing so. Then you need to take her deal or help her for free when she visits you later.

 

[mrbombadil]

So, you took advantage of a woman, and are surprised she wants nothing to do with you?

In order to be on her path, you need to take her out to coffee, which means either not taking advantage of her or apologizing after doing so. Then you need to take her deal or help her for free when she visits you later.

Yes I am surprised given the nature of the game. And this IS indeed a (porn) game, after all, it's not real life. I thought this was a corruption game in which the MC can dominate the girls. That's appealing to me and there are many great games with these themes. I got that impression from the overall theme of Pale Carnations, given that you're managing whores who are desperate.

The second surprise is that this seemingly minor choice (whether or not to apologize) takes place in the first couple of hours of the game and determines your relationship with one of the main LIs for the entirety of the game.

So now, having played several days longer, it's rather inconvenient to restart.

 

[FRVN]

Yes I am surprised given the nature of the game. And this IS indeed a (porn) game, after all, it's not real life. I thought this was a corruption game in which the MC can dominate the girls. That's appealing to me and there are many great games with these themes. I got that impression from the overall theme of Pale Carnations, given that you're managing whores who are desperate.

The second surprise is that this seemingly minor choice (whether or not to apologize) takes place in the first couple of hours of the game and determines your relationship with one of the main LIs for the entirety of the game.

So now, having played several days longer, it's rather inconvenient to restart.

It would be a rather shallow experience if all characters were mindless fuckdolls that you could use as you please with no repercussions; this is not one of those games. There are consequences for your choices.

This is why games with branching are great for replaying. You can experience something different on a second (or third, fourth, etc.) playthrough, as you often cannot experience everything on one playthrough.

Here is the description of the game from the OP: "Will you give into your sadistic urges and be enticed by the club's wealth and hedonism? Or perhaps at the end of it all, a flower of romance will bud, pushing you to leave the brothel’s sordid business behind." Wanting to pursue Rosalind's path is choosing romance over hedonism, which is opposed to what it seems like you want from the game.

 

[ffive]

I thought this was a corruption game in which the MC can dominate the girls. That's appealing to me and there are many great games with these themes. I got that impression from the overall theme of Pale Carnations, given that you're managing whores who are desperate.

This is a corruption game where it's the MC who is being "corrupted" by the club owners. How Edwin responds to these manipulations is down to the player.

In your playthrough you've basically done speedrun any% to the end line. Or at least made great strides towards it.

 

[Draim]

This is a corruption game where it's the MC who is being "corrupted" by the club owners. How Edwin responds to these manipulations is down to the player.

In your playthrough you've basically done speedrun any% to the end line. Or at least made great strides towards it.

Not exactly. The MC was corrupted initially. When he found out that his mother was a great porn actress and he didn't delete the video but saved it.

 

[Idontplay]

Let's say there are various levels of corruption and if the Edwin's level is Lieutenant, the level of the club's owners and customers is God of Gods.

 

[mrbombadil]

It would be a rather shallow experience if all characters were mindless fuckdolls that you could use as you please with no repercussions; this is not one of those games.

No need to strawman since I didn't say that. There can be plenty of interesting story and variety in games where you corrupt girls.

From reading this and other replies one might get the impression that if MC apologizes to Rosalind the MC will thereafter treat her respectfully and in a loving, healthy relationship... That, I've learned, isn't the case necessarily. (Which is one of the reasons I was disappointed in not being able to play that route.) In fact, the "apologize" route seems to be extremely depraved and treating Rosalind as, in your words, a "fuckdoll".

See for example how the MC treats Rosalind here after he forced her into sending depraved nudes:

 

[se20299]

I'm pretty sure most Rose content is inacessible if you use her at the beginning and don't apologize for it. She concludes Edwin is like Ian and doesn't bother trying to seduce/manipulate him.

I think both Rose romance/full deal routes are very well written and rewarding, but you can't go maniacal asshole right at the start and scare her off before she can cast the bait. I do dislike how that whole casting couch scene was written, but it was early days and TD isn't perfect.

 

[InsaneINC]

Please tell me that Kathleen bitch dies or something. I hate her especially the chapter I am on now I want her dead.

 

[Simpgor]

No need to strawman since I didn't say that. There can be plenty of interesting story and variety in games where you corrupt girls.

From reading this and other replies one might get the impression that if MC apologizes to Rosalind the MC will thereafter treat her respectfully and in a loving, healthy relationship... That, I've learned, isn't the case necessarily. (Which is one of the reasons I was disappointed in not being able to play that route.)

It sounds like you kind of misunderstood the idea of the game since it doesnt mention corruption anywhere in synopsis?
I also dont think anybody was saying that you would get romance if you apologized? Just that it would be boring if you had the option to take advantage and no matter what the outcome was the exact same and never referenced again?

 

[UmbralKnight]

i haven't play tested this and I am just guessing this but i think It's possible to be on Rose's route even if you were an asshole in the beginning

since the scene where she comes to the MC's appartment to make the deal happens by default
even an asshole MC should be able to take the "deal" route

also min-maxing stats should help further

as it's been proven with other girls that you can still be on their paths even if you were a complete dickhead throughout the game