Leinad_Sevla
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If I had to guess, I´d say within the next two months. But I really don´t know.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. It seems extremely clear to me that harming the women is precisely Kathleen's intent; any 'carrots' she offers are purely for rhetorical effect.
The fact that she owes money to mobsters is what makes me say it. If Nicolette needs, say, a week to line up this mythical alternative job, do you really think her debtors would be any more patient than Oliver was with Rose?
Besides, even if we ignore the physical obstacles to her "just working 12 hours a day," the fact that horrible things will happen to her if she doesn't earn the money makes any sense of consent invalid. You might as well argue that blackmail victims voluntarily give up their money; after all, they could obviate the whole thing by publicizing their secrets themselves!
Well, when this game ends, i will wait for the prequel: "Kathleen, the early years".
HornyGuy0690
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Imagine it being an FMC game where we'd watch innocent Kat get corrupted into what she is now.
AFAIK she said she was always a sadist, just didn't know at first.
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The entire game would be that one scene where she admits to Edwin that "awoke" her sadism: Some dude in college throwing away his future for her
Honestly we could get that in game like you said it was not a journey it was a door being kicked open
uhm..... she literally fucks Veronica because of how she acts in the "pre game" and week one, we know for a fact that its personal for her because she later admits that doing stuff like that (enjoying the show) makes all the patrons think of her as just another base whore (admits after Edwins gift) so despite her "losing" ground with the Patrons she still does it, she doesnt have Edwin, or Ian, or a random draw audience member fuck Vero she does it because Vero talked shit at her, you could also agrue that the more recent stuff (felica) is just as focused because not only is Elias being involved but she also has one of the patrons buying a painting, and while the patrons would enjoy cucking Elias buying an emotionally important paitning to felica is 100% for her (kathleen).... unless you think samson or the titty milk guy just happen to really really really like art
imo its more likely that kathleen is doing it because she knows that unlike Elias knowing (this late in the game) the painting stuff could legit hurt Felicia.You say that the girls are "property" and that Kathleen owns them? Considering she has injected Edwin without his consent TWICE (if you are a real gamer) during OFF HOURS (not for the patrons), that she has a girl literally trapped in the "basement", that she has given the carnations WINE LACED WITH THE DRUG the idea that she did not do it because "she could" is a wild take.
Also unless im misremembering the laced wine comes before (in story) the injection reward for Edwin he could not have been the "first use"... perhaps the first one of a new batch, or the first male injected, the details arent clear because its been awhile since ive replayed but the idea that somehow they had laced wine first and then somehow got an injection from that seems too far even for Sophie (sorry turret)
You are correct she even use it on the patrons and none of them are owned by Kathleen. For example that fat bastard basically destroying those to girls by the pool. A lot of people have been drugged up already. I won't be surprised if its that missing dude in the vault being drugged and forced to bang girls testing the drugThe entire game would be that one scene where she admits to Edwin that "awoke" her sadism: Some dude in college throwing away his future for her
Honestly we could get that in game like you said it was not a journey it was a door being kicked open
uhm..... she literally fucks Veronica because of how she acts in the "pre game" and week one, we know for a fact that its personal for her because she later admits that doing stuff like that (enjoying the show) makes all the patrons think of her as just another base whore (admits after Edwins gift) so despite her "losing" ground with the Patrons she still does it, she doesnt have Edwin, or Ian, or a random draw audience member fuck Vero she does it because Vero talked shit at her, you could also agrue that the more recent stuff (felica) is just as focused because not only is Elias being involved but she also has one of the patrons buying a painting, and while the patrons would enjoy cucking Elias buying an emotionally important paitning to felica is 100% for her (kathleen).... unless you think samson or the titty milk guy just happen to really really really like art
You say that the girls are "property" and that Kathleen owns them? Considering she has injected Edwin without his consent TWICE (if you are a real gamer) during OFF HOURS (not for the patrons), that she has a girl literally trapped in the "basement", that she has given the carnations WINE LACED WITH THE DRUG the idea that she did not do it because "she could" is a wild take.
Also unless im misremembering the laced wine comes before (in story) the injection reward for Edwin he could not have been the "first use"... perhaps the first one of a new batch, or the first male injected, the details arent clear because its been awhile since ive replayed but the idea that somehow they had laced wine first and then somehow got an injection from that seems too far even for Sophie (sorry turret)
I like to think Vincenzo is just a chad who doesn't need the drugs he can just fuck all day by default
HornyGuy0690
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He's such a chad they use his cum as a key ingredient in the drug.I like to think Vincenzo is just a chad who doesn't need the drugs he can just fuck all day by default
He's in the basement getting milked 24/7.
Hi to all!
Since quoting all involved posts would make a really large post here, I wade right into the discussion.
When it comes to the question who of the PC leadership is more despicable, Kath and(!) Chuck are currently in the lead. Going by our current game knowledge level, August is the least one. He might be a mobster and a pimp, but he goes about it like the shady, criminal businessman he is. As long as business is running smoothly, he does not care what the house girls or carnations are doing in their freetime. If we are on good terms with him, we also learn that August is rather selfaware, he even tells us himself that he is a ruthless, bad person and that is was mistake to pressure himself back into Hana´s life the way he did it. In a talk with Otto he laso mentions that he fears that Kath and Chuck are starting to loose it. He started to love Hana as well, when at first he was simply interested in his legacy. But it becomes clear he loves his daughter now.
INO August is currently the only PC leader who might come out of an "upheaval" still in a position of strength, making a deal with the winner. That is not a surety and the likelyhood of him being removed is higher, but August is the only one I see who could get through at current lore.
Chuck´s mental conditions are more of a mystery, just blinking up now and then. But what we learn now and then is horrifying. August hinted at being afraid of Chuck when he is in one of his "special moods", which are getting more frequent, some house girls fear Chuck like no other patron or PC employee. If what we learn about Chuck from Abel and Sophia is just halfway true, that is bad enough and Sophia´s encounters with him strongly point towards it being true.
One example is that Chuck is sad at the thought, should he ever win against Sophia, he has to hold back from imparting lasting damage since Sophia is too valuable.
Abel said about Kath she has the same nasty disposition as Chuck, but none of his acomplishments. It is clear you should tread carefully around them. The main difference between Chuck and her is that he still has some grip on his sadism and mental conditions in so far Chuck let´s them only free under certain circumstances. He is as nasty and despicable as Kath, just handles it differently.
Kath is a nearly textbook example of a successful sadist in a position where there are only few ways to attack her. While she loves her husband as much as a fullblown sadist can do, he is also a functioning shield for her. Corrupting her sister´s help organisation to funnel herself a steady supply of helpless, desperate people to torment and live out her sadism to the fullest shows Kath has already passed the moral event horizon.
She lives for and enjoys destroying the life of others, which has been hinted at and shown several times. Currently she wants to destroy the lives of Veronica and Felicia badly, because both "disrupt" her "fun" by being not easily tormented.
And another near textbook behaviour of Kath is her power play in the club coming up soon. For whatever reason, the way this works is not fully understood today, very successful sadists often start to take unnecessary risks or trying to get more pieces of a "given cake", when they could simply be content and save in the actual situation. While drunk on power certainly plays a role, it does not explain everything.
Here in PC Kath shows this. She is in a secure position were she could keep going on destroying lives for decades to come, but she has started a power play to take over sole leadership of the club.
As for the sex drug Sophia invented, we have to remember that there are several versions existing. We have the "old" version which has been in use in the club for some time. And we have the "new" further developed version, which is stronger, looses less to no efficiency over time. This improved version is the one Sophia self-tested and the one in the syringes Kath has for the "reward" of Edwin. This is clear by her comments on the potency of it.
Naturally Sophia has full access to it too, it´s her invention, even the better perfume version in contrast to Kath, who has only the old perfume.
When it comes to Abel, Sophia and their involvement in the club, at current knowledge we have I theorise the two doctors are on a crusade of their own. They despise the current PC leadership, Sophia knows much about Chuck´s former victims, something that would be superfluous to know for a scientist hellbent on her project. Them testing the drug at the club is an unnecessary exposure risk, they have black ops labs of their own. While they help Kath currently, they also clearly have plans of their own for the club. They are the "Wind of Change" coming in.
Since quoting all involved posts would make a really large post here, I wade right into the discussion.
When it comes to the question who of the PC leadership is more despicable, Kath and(!) Chuck are currently in the lead. Going by our current game knowledge level, August is the least one. He might be a mobster and a pimp, but he goes about it like the shady, criminal businessman he is. As long as business is running smoothly, he does not care what the house girls or carnations are doing in their freetime. If we are on good terms with him, we also learn that August is rather selfaware, he even tells us himself that he is a ruthless, bad person and that is was mistake to pressure himself back into Hana´s life the way he did it. In a talk with Otto he laso mentions that he fears that Kath and Chuck are starting to loose it. He started to love Hana as well, when at first he was simply interested in his legacy. But it becomes clear he loves his daughter now.
INO August is currently the only PC leader who might come out of an "upheaval" still in a position of strength, making a deal with the winner. That is not a surety and the likelyhood of him being removed is higher, but August is the only one I see who could get through at current lore.
Chuck´s mental conditions are more of a mystery, just blinking up now and then. But what we learn now and then is horrifying. August hinted at being afraid of Chuck when he is in one of his "special moods", which are getting more frequent, some house girls fear Chuck like no other patron or PC employee. If what we learn about Chuck from Abel and Sophia is just halfway true, that is bad enough and Sophia´s encounters with him strongly point towards it being true.
One example is that Chuck is sad at the thought, should he ever win against Sophia, he has to hold back from imparting lasting damage since Sophia is too valuable.
Abel said about Kath she has the same nasty disposition as Chuck, but none of his acomplishments. It is clear you should tread carefully around them. The main difference between Chuck and her is that he still has some grip on his sadism and mental conditions in so far Chuck let´s them only free under certain circumstances. He is as nasty and despicable as Kath, just handles it differently.
Kath is a nearly textbook example of a successful sadist in a position where there are only few ways to attack her. While she loves her husband as much as a fullblown sadist can do, he is also a functioning shield for her. Corrupting her sister´s help organisation to funnel herself a steady supply of helpless, desperate people to torment and live out her sadism to the fullest shows Kath has already passed the moral event horizon.
She lives for and enjoys destroying the life of others, which has been hinted at and shown several times. Currently she wants to destroy the lives of Veronica and Felicia badly, because both "disrupt" her "fun" by being not easily tormented.
And another near textbook behaviour of Kath is her power play in the club coming up soon. For whatever reason, the way this works is not fully understood today, very successful sadists often start to take unnecessary risks or trying to get more pieces of a "given cake", when they could simply be content and save in the actual situation. While drunk on power certainly plays a role, it does not explain everything.
Here in PC Kath shows this. She is in a secure position were she could keep going on destroying lives for decades to come, but she has started a power play to take over sole leadership of the club.
As for the sex drug Sophia invented, we have to remember that there are several versions existing. We have the "old" version which has been in use in the club for some time. And we have the "new" further developed version, which is stronger, looses less to no efficiency over time. This improved version is the one Sophia self-tested and the one in the syringes Kath has for the "reward" of Edwin. This is clear by her comments on the potency of it.
Naturally Sophia has full access to it too, it´s her invention, even the better perfume version in contrast to Kath, who has only the old perfume.
When it comes to Abel, Sophia and their involvement in the club, at current knowledge we have I theorise the two doctors are on a crusade of their own. They despise the current PC leadership, Sophia knows much about Chuck´s former victims, something that would be superfluous to know for a scientist hellbent on her project. Them testing the drug at the club is an unnecessary exposure risk, they have black ops labs of their own. While they help Kath currently, they also clearly have plans of their own for the club. They are the "Wind of Change" coming in.
Both Kat and Chuck are also mobsters and pimps -- they're organized criminals who together run a brothel. As for killing, it's an open question how exactly Kat handled the attempt to blackmail her by the guy who worked at the club before Edwin.
This is rather amazing quote, in the sense that what you're saying is basically "This is a textbook case of X and i disagree this means it is X". The ability of human's brain to deny something that is right in front of them --and presumably believe this denial to be true-- is nothing short of spectacular.
Kat's intentions are to harm the women that are there: this is exactly the source of "entertainment" she provides to the patrons. To publicly debase them, and to destroy any sense of their self-worth. As for "nothing malicious" there -- Kat explicitly and literally gets off on harming people, being the sadist that she is. This is exactly what malice is: the intention to harm someone. All these things she is doing, they are fueled by malice.
Kameri
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Kat fans be like, ‘Thanks queen!’ right after getting roofied with some sketchy drug and pegged under the guise of a ‘reward’ for doing her dirty work
TheresiaW
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What's wrong with pegging? God himself placed the male G-spot in the form of the prostate in the rear entrance. So it's completely normal
Draim
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Well, the sex drug is less sketchy than it might appear. Going by the info we have, Waller Medical wants to make Sophia´s invention into an energy drink, while Abel and Sophia see "further uses". That these further uses brought them to PC might be their official line, still it is more or less bogus, due to them having black ops labs, where they could experiment without risks.
Also, even accounting for Sophia´s genius, the old version was already pretty advanced when it comes to testing/developing a new drug/medicine. While not completely developed yet, the new version, which was self-tested by Sophia, has advanced quicker than normal towards the next version. It might not be with medical association seal, but the sex drug is comparatively save and sellable right now.
Personally I theorise with the exception of the sota version, which even the club does not have, the other versions were already developed and shared at PC in staggered intervalls to pretend a development taking place with them.
TheresiaW
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Fortunately, I am now old and mature enough not to be afraid to try new things
Just google “prostate orgasm” and similar terms. There are countless articles, guides, and toys on the subject.
If you're too anxious or embarrassed, start by getting a blowjob with simultaneous finger prostate massage. It's completely different from a classic blowjob.
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I find it hilarious that people bitch and cry only because Kathleen treats whores like whores. This is a brothel so any other treatment would look ludicrous in comparison (this is one of the reasons I don't see Hana managing the club in the long run unless she transforms into Kathleen). As for her drugging, AFAWK this sex concoction is basically an improved version of viagra that works for women too. We don't see any side effects hence Kathleen allowed Edwin to "drug" her (anally).
In addition, it's not a drug that lets you mind-control and I'm pretty certain that many people could resist it (Edwin could direct his desire to anyone he chose, he could even choose Kathleen or not choose her even though she was the closest, Kat was also holding rather well but being tied up prevented her from having many options).
BTW, Kathleen is in no position here to use this love potion as she sees fit because it's Sophia's and Abel's drug and they control the supply. It also makes me wonder what they're doing in the Vault exactly because I would think that many people would even pay to test a drug like this while being surrounded by extremely hot women who would serve them to test its potency so why would they need Darius for that?
In addition, it's not a drug that lets you mind-control and I'm pretty certain that many people could resist it (Edwin could direct his desire to anyone he chose, he could even choose Kathleen or not choose her even though she was the closest, Kat was also holding rather well but being tied up prevented her from having many options).
BTW, Kathleen is in no position here to use this love potion as she sees fit because it's Sophia's and Abel's drug and they control the supply. It also makes me wonder what they're doing in the Vault exactly because I would think that many people would even pay to test a drug like this while being surrounded by extremely hot women who would serve them to test its potency so why would they need Darius for that?