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Does anyone know the advantages of Hana's GF path? Looks pretty much like a solo path for me that will probably blow up in my face if I still keep chasing all the other girls, although I don't know if it's possible to add Mina to the mix. All the girls are great and I'm looking for some harem ending and have as much fun with the girls as possible.
 

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Does anyone know the advantages of Hana's GF path? Looks pretty much like a solo path for me that will probably blow up in my face if I still keep chasing all the other girls, although I don't know if it's possible to add Mina to the mix. All the girls are great and I'm looking for some harem ending and have as much fun with the girls as possible.
Harem ending chances are minimum to not say zero :)
If you want to have fun with the other girls especially Mina you should go fuck buddies with Hana.
 

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Haven't played this since the first release, how's it progressing (without spoliers), is it still one of the best VN's?
 

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Does anyone know the advantages of Hana's GF path? Looks pretty much like a solo path for me that will probably blow up in my face if I still keep chasing all the other girls, although I don't know if it's possible to add Mina to the mix. All the girls are great and I'm looking for some harem ending and have as much fun with the girls as possible.
Hi!
The girlfriend path opens up special scenes not available otherwise. You can still cheat on Hana, but that I would say is very unwise, considering her Dad is something of the "Godfather" of Morehead Hills.
If you want to be with girls outside the Club (inside PC Hana and Edwin have an understanding) you should choose to be Friends with benefits.
As for a harem ending, the chances for this are close to zero. You can be friendly with most girls in the game, but there will come a time where you have to choose your special sweetheart. Singular.
 
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Haven't played this since the first release, how's it progressing (without spoliers), is it still one of the best VN's?
IMO, it is the BEST game. Tho I find Desert Stalker is generally more fun, PC hits with such a gut punch of major emotions, with characters you find both attractive and that you care about, that it is a largely tragic relationship train wreck you just can't look away from (in a good way).

IMO, PC is kind of like watching Arcane (the League of Legends show): you both need and DREAD to tune back in and, in both, the letter "H" in its name stands for "happiness" (hint: there isn't an H to be found)..
 

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Ah yes Sexaddictasshole for pissing on Vero and Toothlesschump for declining sex
The great hidden feature of PC, if you aren't save-differentiating by name, is that Edwin works well for either a weak-ass cuck or a total sleazy slimeball, tho that name will, to me, always invoke the image of a douchebag wizard who gets a sexchange magically forced on him in Balder's Gate.

If I want a slimeball, I just name him Dick or Rod, and get it over with. Literally go hard or go home.

There is a game (Elleria: Wheel of Fate) where your last name is automatically Magnus (meaning greatest or biggest), so I *definitely* named him Richard, there, to keep it sounding plausibly formal, yet retaining the implied "Life of Brian" style Roman dick joke. Ironically, at some point, that MC thinks abt being a king, and what ppl would say abt "King Richard". Somewhere, Shakespeare was having a laugh at that one.
 

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I leave the name Edwin as it is because it would be a disrespect to Victoria to change the name she chose for her son :cool:
Jokes aside, I find Edwin a complete character, he is far from a blank slate character, so I think it fits to not rename him my name or something of my choosing, I always self-insert a bit on these games and Edwin let us chose his path but I think he is very much a character in itself.
 

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he's quite better connected and positioned at this work than he'd be just about anywhere else.
Edwin benefits from some level of nepotism
true
the club offers the best chance for MC to climb up the social ladder in the most quickest way
but nepotism has it's limits
it's not going to save his skin if things go wrong
sophie and MC are already caught between the mental battle chuck and abel are playing
if we are using chess analogies both their respective proteges are more like knights
very useful but definitely expendable

It is illegal, but other than that it's work like any other.
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riiiiiight
so the secret underground sex dungeon where they test the MK-ULTRA tier brain washing drugs are totally normal thing to have even for an illegal underground sexclub

with all mind control drug use the entire club is 3 steps away from becoming a sexclub to sexcult

What do you think Kat, Chuck and August have done to all girls which used to work in the club but no longer do?
from what we have seen and been shown so far it's pretty clear that you don't ever "quit" the club completely
they are always going to have some kind of "hook" on you that they can use whenever they want
just look at allision she technically "won" yet kathy still has her on beck and call

What do you believe they will do to Edwin if he calls it quits?
that depends on "how" we quit
we could end up as unlucky as darius who also tried "quitting" the club before his time was over

Where do you think we would see such person?
It shouldn't be that hard
after all we have already seen that these people trade girls with eachother so it wouldn't be very surprising if donovan managed to poach some of the "talent" that used to work for the club
it could have been literally anyone from a bartender to a janitor
we could have easily bumped into this "ex-employee" when we met donovon
considering she did quite a few porn movies for August's friend and yet apparently quit and spent years afterwards with no strings attached,
the game literally spells out to us how "daddy gun" is the exception in the business a very rarity definitely not like chuck or kathy
until Grace decided to abuse the info she had on her.
see ?
you just answered your own question you don't ever "truly" quit the club
they always have their hooks in you something that they can use on you even after decades
They'll just drag the proceedings out knowing their company can afford it, but you don't.
atleast you have choice
even if it's futile you still have the option to follow the legal route
but who are you going to complain/ask help when the members of the sex club you work for literally run the city?

this might be a reason for MC who is in romance with Veronica and can delude himself he is going to have a successful long-term relationship with a frisky lesbian who hits on anyone in a skirt. But i wouldn't really extrapolate it on every other Edwin. Not all of them are going to be making their important life decisions based on a girl they've met just a few weeks ago. :whistle:
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that i am very much guilty of
i am all in on Veronica but it's not just her is it ?
i don't think either rose or mina is going to be ok with it either
 

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I leave the name Edwin as it is because it would be a disrespect to Victoria to change the name she chose for her son :cool:
Jokes aside, I find Edwin a complete character, he is far from a blank slate character, so I think it fits to not rename him my name or something of my choosing, I always self-insert a bit on these games and Edwin let us chose his path but I think he is very much a character in itself.
While I do rename him because I hate the name Edwin, he definitely is his own man.

That he knew abt his mom's semi-hidden career from early adolescence, and not only didn't turn outright misogynistic, but instead still loved her dearly, is laudible in itself, but even more amazing is it even seems to have resulted in him having an acceptance of the humanity and rights of (and possibly even outright respect for) sex workers. That is a psychological hurdle a lot of young guys would NOT have cleared, seeing their moms getting repeatedly porked professionally for all to see.

His stoicism likely is a result of having to sort that out, and/or may have helped the process. Ofc, he does have a darker side that you can choose to focus on, but his main trend seems to have been to hold a steady line.
 
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Objectively, Edwin benefits from some level of nepotism, which he'd be lacking elsewhere, and which got him this job in the first place. He's friends with one of the owners and close friends with that owenr's nephew.
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Hell, you could say his own mother Victoria is pretty much such a person, considering she did quite a few porn movies for August's friend and yet apparently quit and spent years afterwards with no strings attached, until Grace decided to abuse the info she had on her.
I suspect Victoria didn't get picked up for the club despite her working "under" Daddy Gun, specifically because (by the time the club was created) her young son had already protected Chuck's nephew from bullies in grade school. That sort of thing goes a LOOOOONG way to getting a gal leeway without her ever even knowing she was potentially ever up on the block for sale. So kind of reverse nepotism, in a way.
But, ofc, he did drag her son into the profession, albeit on the other side, given he's a guy, and he actually wanted to help him out (and seems to respect the MC more than he does his own wastrel playboy nephew).
 

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That sort of thing goes a LOOOOONG way to getting a gal leeway without her ever even knowing she was potentially ever up on the block for sale. So kind of reverse nepotism, in a way.
I think she simply didn't represent any real value beyond her body, and bodies are... abundant. In a world where no woman can ever drown, what's another set of beach balls.

There's also the question of personality. If you're going to lean on a person continuously, you want to know if that person can rationalise the coercion... productively. You can count on a first generation immigrant to pay protection money for their little corner shop without much fuss, because they fucking know better. A second generation kid with delusions of the Great American Dream that inherited the corner store last month might try to pull a shotgun on you. Which really just shows sending your kids to school is a grave mistake.

Locally, Allison seems like a perfect example in that, as an actress, she might naturally have an utilitarian view of her body, coupled with a goal orientated attitude towards its exploitation. Her leash continues being yanked, but she can also smell the treat she wants and is willing to spread her legs to get it (and presumably keep it in the future), all without it having an obvious, immediate destructive effect on her psyche.
 
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Pete looks fairly average to me. He won't have any trouble finding someone like Mina.
He may look average if the baseline was typical human appearance (and even then, i'd say he's more on the lower part of this curve) but this game has the "Hollywood homely" effect going at full throttle, so in this sort of a cast he ends up looking like absolute dog shit. It's to the point where iirc i felt compelled to make a screenshot of juxtaposition between text about his looks and the dude's actual appearance, when that update first aired. :whistle:
 
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the club offers the best chance for MC to climb up the social ladder in the most quickest way
but nepotism has it's limits
it's not going to save his skin if things go wrong
I think it's quite the opposite; nepotism may very well shield him in situations where an employee without close ties to management would get thrown under the bus.

sophie and MC are already caught between the mental battle chuck and abel are playing
if we are using chess analogies both their respective proteges are more like knights
very useful but definitely expendable
Of course, if Edwin chooses to go against Chuck he can hardly expect there wouldn't be negative consequences from Chuck. At the same time, as long as he remains on good terms with him, he can expect quite better protection than your average Joe. Which, coincidentally, makes another decent reason for him not to try to rock the boat.

riiiiiight
so the secret underground sex dungeon where they test the MK-ULTRA tier brain washing drugs are totally normal thing to have even for an illegal underground sexclub
Sex dungeon sounds like perfectly normal thing to have in a sex club. They are for this matter.

Drug labs are also quite normal thing for a drug-oriented business to set up. May i remind that the drug lab in question was established by people who run legal pharmaceutical company which, allegedly, has also its own "black research site(s)" elsewhere.

Now, combining these two is somewhat odd, but that's more of a porn game logic for you than anything else. I'd also be very surprised if research of say, viagra, didn't involve getting participants/test subjects in sex-related situations, give the actual nature of the research.

with all mind control drug use the entire club is 3 steps away from becoming a sexclub to sexcult
As opposed to what, legal businesses which openly endorse and promote cult mentality from their workers in order to exploit them better? Hello, professional games industry where if you're not crunching 20 hours a day on the AAA title you're not a "true gamer" but a loser who doesn't belong.

from what we have seen and been shown so far it's pretty clear that you don't ever "quit" the club completely
they are always going to have some kind of "hook" on you that they can use whenever they want
just look at allision she technically "won" yet kathy still has her on beck and call
No, we were shown literally one person who is still occasionally called to do club for well-paid favors. I hope you understand how silly it is to build any sort of statistics on such limited sample, much less conclude that it clearly means "no one ever really quits".

Consider this: the club has run multiple editions of the Exhibition, each of them with a handful of participants. If you "never really quit the club" how comes we only see/hear about just one of them? Shouldn't all the losers, or at least some of them, be still around, sucking dicks and getting fucked, the way that you claim Felicia is bound to be doing if she doesn't win?

that depends on "how" we quit
we could end up as unlucky as darius who also tried "quitting" the club before his time was over
That's a complete no answer considering we don't know what actually happened to Darius. But leaving it aside come on. What do you think is going to happen to Edwin if he simply tries to quit? You keep talking how the club will never let him or anyone for that matter quit so come on. What do you believe happen to him?

It shouldn't be that hard
after all we have already seen that these people trade girls with eachother so it wouldn't be very surprising if donovan managed to poach some of the "talent" that used to work for the club
it could have been literally anyone from a bartender to a janitor
we could have easily bumped into this "ex-employee" when we met donovon
So, the horrible thing that the club will do to its former girls who quit is giving them a job as maybe a bartender or janitor, or a secretary or whatever in a fully legal business. I'm sorry, but is this supposed to be scary and terrible fate? In the economy where getting a stable job is something many just dream of?

see ?
you just answered your own question you don't ever "truly" quit the club
they always have their hooks in you something that they can use on you even after decades
I have specifically put Grace in italics to make it obvious even to a blind person that this is not club-related. I'm not sure if Grace even knows the club exists. She is just trying for Victoria to get her bidding, but it has nothing to do with the club.

Also, may i remind you that Victoria's response to that "hook" was simply "fuck you"? So much for the scary hooks.

i don't think either rose or mina is going to be ok with it either
Between Rose scamming old people out of their money for her husband and Mina's sex bucket list i think they may be more flexible about these things that you give them credit for. At least in Mina's case there's more than a few posters around here who are actually salivating at the idea of her getting in the business herself. :whistle:
 

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Consider this: the club has run multiple editions of the Exhibition, each of them with a handful of participants. If you "never really quit the club" how comes we only see/hear about just one of them? Shouldn't all the losers, or at least some of them, be still around, sucking dicks and getting fucked, the way that you claim Felicia is bound to be doing if she doesn't win?
Yeah I wondered about this myself, Allison won the last exhibition and she's still linked to the club, shouldn't the losers be the ones still around? I think Allison accepted a deal with Kathleen to be still at the service of the club to get better parts in movies, better connections etc.
We have Lucy too, that we know she isn't there against her will, what makes me wonder if any of the other house girls were previous carnations themselves.
Not saying the club isn't shady and the girls aren't being exploited but besides Nicolette are any of them there against their will? Even Nico volunteers herself for more "tough jobs", maybe to get rid of her debt or whatever faster, but even her, we don't know if she's there against her will or not :unsure:
 
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