VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[ename144]

Finally played the latest update and is it only me because i kinda felt it was a little underwhelming? Not by a quality stand point I mind you but rather not a lot happened that progressed the story or anything new popped up? Felt more like a set up episode or a calm before the storm type of thing. Sex scenes were god tier though.

Anyway, what the general consensus on Kathleen's new hairstyle?

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This is one of Chunky's newer hairstyle mods for HS and the anti-aliasing of it is really throwing me off in some scenes.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I was underwhelmed, but I did feel the episode hit below its weight. Part of that is simply that I don't like the excesses of the Club very much and that was *the* focus of the update, which is a bummer.

But another part is that the episode is very much all buildup to a cliffhanger. The update lays on the dramatic irony extra thick: we know Elia and Felicia are in for an epic reckoning, but our MC can do precious little about it and isn't allowed much time for introspection. Unless you're on Felicia's more romantic path, there's not much interactivity with the main plot - it all just sort of happens around you. Now, there are a lot of 'side quests' you can do to keep the gameplay interesting, some of which are very good (like the afternoon visits with Hana or Mina, or the developing Killian saga), but those can be path dependent and they're still ultimately side content. So the end result can feel more than a little uneven depending on how you approach the game.

I'm hoping these issues will fade when we get the second half of the event and can finally react to all the tension that was built up, but we'll have to see how things play out.

As for Kathleen's new hairstyle, I think it's fine (the anti-aliasing didn't bother me). I prefer her normal look a bit more, but maybe I'm just used to it.

 

[Discrepancy]

I didn't realize until another playthrough that there exists a scene where you can visit Victoria solo instead of with Ian. I never hesitated to reveal Vic's past to Ian as he was always the best bro character to me, so revealing & calling him over felt right.

I was the opposite, I only found out that Ian could come with Edwin to Vic house in the morning on this thread.
I told him the truth but when Edwin called him he make an excuse that he had to meet Chuck.
People on here found out the trigger for Ian going with Edwin or not is a choice earlier of Edwin make Ian being introspective, I didn't had that option though, lacked bromance points, I think my Edwin is a bro to Ian, but I chose the half-truth to Mina and tried not to lie to her and that's probably it.

Enjoyed reading your thoughts, agree with everything/most things you said

 

[hitman2511]

Anyone here waiting for Hana to clash with Warren again? When he tells her with a suggestive smile how much of a whore Edwin has been the last few days and then she retaliates by letting him stretch her asshole in the security room....or is that just me?

 

[ShiroGato]

I wouldn't go so far as to say I was underwhelmed, but I did feel the episode hit below its weight. Part of that is simply that I don't like the excesses of the Club very much and that was *the* focus of the update, which is a bummer.

The hedonism has really started to crank up and I think that's by design. While the MC & player really wasn't able to avail themselves to the club's pleasures in the early going, we are getting thrown more and more excess temptations. Andrea in the update before, and Lucy, Allison, & Sophia this update. It's possible that we are being compensated more in this update, simply because there's enough time at this point in the story to do it, than in the next one to come where the focus will be more on the Carnation participants.

Unless you're on Felicia's more romantic path, there's not much interactivity with the main plot - it all just sort of happens around you. Now, there are a lot of 'side quests' you can do to keep the gameplay interesting, some of which are very good (like the afternoon visits with Hana or Mina, or the developing Killian saga), but those can be path dependent and they're still ultimately side content. So the end result can feel more than a little uneven depending on how you approach the game.

I hear ya on the lack of agency of just being an observer, but with the nature of the Elias-Felicia reveal, this update needed to be more the visual novel part of the medium. As someone who was able to go through 04.06 in one run, this was less of an issue to me, but for someone who's had to wait for long periods of time between content, I get where you're coming from. The unfortunate nature of in-progress content means older players will generally engage more by piece-meal instead of a whole, singular experience.

From a narrative standpoint, I think even if you're not invested in Felicia as an LI, this moment needed to happen to give her character some conflict which she previously didn't really have. How she responds to this adversity is narrative popcorn for the next update.

 

[Discrepancy]

Anyone here waiting for Hana to clash with Warren again? When he tells her with a suggestive smile how much of a whore Edwin has been the last few days and then she retaliates by letting him stretch her asshole in the security room....or is that just me?

Hana ass needs to be stretched soon, I would prefer if it was Edwin doing it though not Warren.
Actually we need more anal scenes with more girls, only Felish has it afaik.

 

[Draim]

Warren

Would it be too cruel to want a game where you play for him? and not for a sleek boy with graphomania?

 

[Discrepancy]

Would it be too cruel to want a game where you play for him? and not for a sleek boy with graphomania?

What would the gameplay be? looking at screens like a voyeur and fuck house-girls while being mean to them?

 

[Darreau91]

Hana ass needs to be stretched soon, I would prefer if it was Edwin doing it though not Warren.
Actually we need more anal scenes with more girls, only Felish has it afaik.

Warren has micro penis energy and probably wouldn't be able to stretch anything anyways.

 

[slightchance]

Hana ass needs to be stretched soon, I would prefer if it was Edwin doing it though not Warren.
Actually we need more anal scenes with more girls, only Felish has it afaik.

It's merely a callback. A banner with his words is hanging on the wall over the fireplace since week 1, ready to be ignited at a moment's notice. Checkov would be proud.

 

[Draim]

What would the gameplay be? looking at screens like a voyeur and fuck house-girls while being mean to them?

I'm simple men. Yes.

 

[YourDisapointedMother]

Anyone here waiting for Hana to clash with Warren again? When he tells her with a suggestive smile how much of a whore Edwin has been the last few days and then she retaliates by letting him stretch her asshole in the security room....or is that just me?

Would it be too cruel to want a game where you play for him? and not for a sleek boy with graphomania?

Warren has micro penis energy and probably wouldn't be able to stretch anything anyways.

Hear me out...

Hana takes over from her father, becomes angry/sadistic like Kath. Warren makes a mistake, messes with the wrong girl, causes the bosses an issue.

To assert dominance, Hana fucks Warren with a strap-on. Serves as her initiation ritual. Video kept as kompromat, so he'll forever know his place.

 

[slightchance]

To assert dominance, Hana fucks Warren with a strap-on. Serves as her initiation ritual. Video kept as kompromat, so he'll forever know his place.

That's something for the 2nd or 3rd date.

I'd rather see him being extremely irritated because he's developed a crush on Hana and doesn't like it. Kath never questioned his mood and that's how he preferred it as it is easier for him to play a tough guy devoid of feelings than being kind to someone so small and "naive". He stares at the CCTVs and daydreams about standing in the mosh pit, like a buoy in a rough sea, and looking up to only one who notices his heartbeat in all that chaos surrounding him: the drummer.
ba dum tss

 

[Meiri]

Anyone here waiting for Hana to clash with Warren again? When he tells her with a suggestive smile how much of a whore Edwin has been the last few days and then she retaliates by letting him stretch her asshole in the security room....or is that just me?

Hana is pretty much set up to be the new August right now, unless Kaitlyn manages to make her give her position there's no way Warren tries to bother her anymore.

 

[slightchance]

Hana is pretty much set up to be the new August right now, unless Kaitlyn manages to make her give her position there's no way Warren tries to bother her anymore.

Please let me daydream a little.

Kaitlyn said there is always way (for him to slap her ass and whatnot) despite Hana being August's daughter. Unless Kaitlyn changed her mind since then because she wasn't aware that Hana's going to be his replacement.

 

[UmbralKnight]

has anyone tried to play as an incel/volcel ?
where you reject the advances of every girl and remain sexless throughout the game
i don't think it's entirely possible but still i wonder how much the story changes if you deliberately have no romantic partner or don't engage in any of the sexual activities

if you have no or very little sex at all
perhaps instead of going home with one of the girls
MC should hangout/party with Ian instead
that could be fun too

 

[Draim]

has anyone tried to play as an incel/volcel ?
where you reject the advances of every girl and remain sexless throughout the game
i don't think it's entirely possible but still i wonder how much the story changes if you deliberately have no romantic partner or don't engage in any of the sexual activities

if you have no or very little sex at all
perhaps instead of going home with one of the girls
MC should hangout/party with Ian instead
that could be fun too
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It's impossible route because your works literally Fuck whores.

 

[ShiroGato]

has anyone tried to play as an incel/volcel ?
where you reject the advances of every girl and remain sexless throughout the game
i don't think it's entirely possible but still i wonder how much the story changes if you deliberately have no romantic partner or don't engage in any of the sexual activities

if you have no or very little sex at all
perhaps instead of going home with one of the girls
MC should hangout/party with Ian instead
that could be fun too
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lmao that's like a PC speed run. Imagine if the incel/volcel route was the only way to get the true ending.

"Five some? No thanks, Kathy." *avoids boner drug*

"Harper looks uncomfortable, let me set her down." *avoids sadist route*

PS. Love the Balalaika sig, such a bad-ass character. Makes me want to rewatch Black Lagoon again.