VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Biscardone]

My gut feeling is that renpy handles saves location the same way it handles if you've seen text. For each files it stores the exact line that was seen, or where you are at the time of save.

e.g.: scriptX.rpy: "Some dialogue with possibly a typpo"

Now if that line is fixed to: scriptX.rpy: "Some dialogue now without the typo" and you happened to have a save at that exact location then renpy won't be able to find it and load the game.

Maybe try to test that theory if you have time.

Well, I ran a couple of tests, and I was able to somewhat reproduce the issue - loading a save made on the "Thanks for playing" screen with an older version of the game in a newer one causes a blocking exception with the message "Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?". However this test was run from non-standard conditions (I started the game and immediately jumped to a label near the endgame to speed up the process), and that may be part of the issue, or muddle the waters anyways. I need to perform some more tests with a cleaner setup - something I'll probably lack the time to do in the near future. I'll let you and TD know if I manage to.

 

[saso_mox]

Is there a compressed version?

 

[Takkatakka]

Is there a compressed version?

https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-update-3-mutt-jeff.50281/post-11569488

 

[Ottoeight]

BIG QUESTIONS for the Authors:

1. does a chapter cover a whole week? i.e.: will chapter 4 include the whole 3rd week with the 3rd exhibition?

2. if yes, how many parts till the end of week 3? is chapter 4, part 4 going to cover the weekend exhibition?

3. have you already decided how the story ends?

 

[Deleted member 6035931]

If it would be BAD, it would indeed be top 3, but since this is PC it is actually top 2 "of this site".

 

[ename144]

BIG QUESTIONS for the Authors:

1. does a chapter cover a whole week? i.e.: will chapter 4 include the whole 3rd week with the 3rd exhibition?

2. if yes, how many parts till the end of week 3? is chapter 4, part 4 going to cover the weekend exhibition?

3. have you already decided how the story ends?

I'm not the author, but I'll take a stab at it.

1. Yes, the Chapters correspond to the weeks of the Exhibition. Chapter 4 will be the final week of the competition and also the end of the game (plus the prologue and potentially some epilogues). TD has explained this in the past, and AFAIK it's still the plan.
2. I don't think there's a set number of parts; it's been growing with each Chapter as the plot (and number of variables) expand. Since TD has begun to favor smaller but more timely updates, the number is likely to keep rising, but we'll just have to see what happens.
3. I'm pretty sure TD knows how the game will end in broad strokes, but I doubt he has every path planned out in detail. He'll likely add or alter material to 'fit the meter' when he's finally writing the end.

Again, these are just my educated guesses.

 

[-Yor-0728]

How often does an update come out?

 

[Bill Temple]

How often does an update come out?

Ch1 - 2020/04/16
Ch2.1 - 2020/08/02 (109 days)
Ch2.2 - 2020/11/23 (114 days)
Ch3.1 - 2021/03/15 (113 days)
Ch3.2 - 2021/08/18 (157 days)
Ch3.3 - 2021/12/31 (136 days)
Ch3.4 - 2022/06/18 (170 days)
Ch4.1 - 2022/10/31 (136 days)
Ch4.2 - 2023/04/15 (167 days)
Ch4.3 - 2023/09/01 (140 days)
The simple average is 138 days, but the first three updates were quicker. I suspect that TD and GIL were ablaze with youthful vigor in that halcyon year of 2020. Or maybe it was due to lockdown; there's no way to know. But looking at just the last six updates, the average is 151 days. More interestingly, recent updates seem to alternate between ≈138 day intervals and ≈165 day intervals. Following that pattern, we could expect approximately 165 days from Sep 1st.

 

[Ottoeight]

I'm not the author, but I'll take a stab at it.

1. Yes, the Chapters correspond to the weeks of the Exhibition. Chapter 4 5 will be the final week of the competition and also the end of the game (plus the prologue and potentially some epilogues). TD has explained this in the past, and AFAIK it's still the plan.

5 chapters, it is, then. Chapter 1 is the prologue, chapter 5 will be the 4th week. I hope we'll have proper aftermath stories for each main girl (Mina, Hana and the Carnations).

Ch1 - 2020/04/16
Ch2.1 - 2020/08/02 (109 days)
Ch2.2 - 2020/11/23 (114 days)
Ch3.1 - 2021/03/15 (113 days)
Ch3.2 - 2021/08/18 (157 days)
Ch3.3 - 2021/12/31 (136 days)
Ch3.4 - 2022/06/18 (170 days)
Ch4.1 - 2022/10/31 (136 days)
Ch4.2 - 2023/04/15 (167 days)
Ch4.3 - 2023/09/01 (140 days)
The simple average is 138 days, but the first three updates were quicker. I suspect that TD and GIL were ablaze with youthful vigor in that halcyon year of 2020. Or maybe it was due to lockdown; there's no way to know. But looking at just the last six updates, the average is 151 days. More interestingly, recent updates seem to alternate between ≈138 day intervals and ≈165 day intervals. Following that pattern, we could expect approximately 165 days from Sep 1st.

Early releases had not animations - they started to add them later. This is why early releases were faster, I guess. Just my hunch.

It would be nice if we had the next update for Xmas time.

 

[Godshow]

nanny's part is soo good, looking more of it in the future

 

[BroMan27]

anyone have a save that stops at chapter 3?

 

[SperryTop]

Yay mods! We love you!

 

[Ottoeight]

Did anyone else notice this?
(check the arrows I made)




If I were MC, I'd mind my own business and keep my head down (the less you know...)

 

[YuNobi1]

Did anyone else notice this?
(check the arrows I made)


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If I were MC, I'd mind my own business and keep my head down (the less you know...)

Based on current MC placement in the Club, I don't think we really have much to fear, as MC is given an incredible amount of autonomy and influence, even more than Ian has. Clearly, TD is telling us that there is a danger, but I feel that this won't manifest until an endgame decision (a la "join the Dark Side or fight and probably die by the Sith"), which will likely involve betraying or fully embracing the Club. Learning what happened to the predecessor will properly demonstrate the cruel fate the Club enacts on traitors, thus making the choice a difficult one (risk death doing what's right, or become part of the evil that will kill someone) thereby building up the tension. ... Which is really good writing.

 

[DevinHesi]

Chapter 4 Up 4 Preview (2)

"...what was there to say? I didn't envy Hana having to run things, but the mix of anger and frustration on her face made me wish there was."

 

[Idontplay]

Did anyone else notice this?
(check the arrows I made)


View attachment 2978940

If I were MC, I'd mind my own business and keep my head down (the less you know...)

Naaa! My Edwin (thinks he) is too smart to don't be able to handle this situation. Well he be able to b successful, or will he face an horrible failure? I don't know and I don't care to know until the end, but I'm enjoying the journey.

 

[ename144]

Did anyone else notice this?
(check the arrows I made)


View attachment 2978940

If I were MC, I'd mind my own business and keep my head down (the less you know...)

The girl looks more like Nicolette to me. Still an interesting find.

As for the MC, if he wanted to keep his head safely down he should never have joined the Club. Now that he's in, ignorance is at best a two-edged sword. He definitely shouldn't make a show of sticking his nose in everywhere, but her needs to investigate enough to guess where cover will be if things actually start to explode. The unwary can get caught up in the crossfire even faster than the busybodies.

 

[Ottoeight]

The girl looks more like Nicolette to me. Still an interesting find.

As for the MC, if he wanted to keep his head safely down he should never have joined the Club. Now that he's in, ignorance is at best a two-edged sword. He definitely shouldn't make a show of sticking his nose in everywhere, but her needs to investigate enough to guess where cover will be if things actually start to explode. The unwary can get caught up in the crossfire even faster than the busybodies.

The scene where August tells MC that Nicolette is "a special interest" gave me the creeps: I have the feeling that they're talking about her in the second preview scene (a couple of posts above).

I bet a tenner that Ian is going to tell MC that his former co-worker's parents haven't heard from him since he quit the job.

 

[YuNobi1]

The scene where August tells MC that Nicolette is "a special interest" gave me the creeps: I have the feeling that they're talking about her in the second preview scene (a couple of posts above).

I bet a tenner that Ian is going to tell MC that his former co-worker's parents haven't heard from him since he quit the job.

They probably received a letter/email "from him" saying that he "moved to Florida" thus abating their concerns for a while.

 

[legendspearton]

I wonder Hana, Mina and MC have the chances to be "menage à trois" as Mina said. I feel bad about cheat on Hana with Mina. If Hana, Mina and MC get a threesome it will be great.