Vlad11

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Wow ok you win, because nothing anyone says matters to you.

Like the fact due to Patreon's look on incest, the last names might be different. This game is also about a family broken apart and them trying to get back together.

If they could find a bottle prop that said plan b, if not they might have used a generic one.

I'm glad you think it's so simple to get pregnant... I have two kids, I know how hard it can be.

Again, you're fantasy... Look at it however you want.
For a young athletic and healthy girl, most often, it is very simple, especially after so much unprotected sex. In reality simple pull out - very bad method.

What does incest have to do with it? Ellie never had sex with Eugene and i hope not will be!
 

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For a young athletic and healthy girl, most often it is very simple, especially after so much unprotected sex. In reality simple pull out - very bed method.

What does incest have to do with it? Ellie never had sex with Eugene and i hope not will be!
will have with eug. optional maybe.
 

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For a young athletic and healthy girl, most often it is very simple, especially after so much unprotected sex. In reality simple pull out - very bed method.
Ok, nothing points to Ellie being athletic at all, she hides in her room. She has not had so much unprotected sex, she could have had sex three times, that's it before the last time when he didn't pull out right away. However, it only takes once, as they say.
Athletics has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with the chances of a girl getting pregnant.
It's not very easy to get most women pregnant, a lot of things have to line up right.
Hell, Ellie could be unable to have children if you want to just keep lumping random shit into the mix.

No method is 100% even the pill or morning after pill, some are better than others, pull out is the worst due to precum. Most guys pull out then wank it the last bit.

So, please, stop acting like you know everything.

Enjoy the story, live your fantasy (until it gets shatter in the story).
 

siath70

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The Dev. thinks about sexual relationships between Nadia and Ellie, but i against it. And after this Dev may be banned on Patreon.
This is why Ellie is named Madden... Jesus, get a grip, this is a story about a family... Eugene is Ellie's father and Nadia is Ellie's mother.

But, you believe what you want to believe, it's your imagination and that's the great thing about VNs you can make up whatever you want to fill in the gaps.

The story has an incest tag, there will be incest. I wouldn't be surprised at all by it. It's already been eluded to Ellie being attracted to Nadia. It's even be eluded to the Nadia is attracted to Ellie, she literally finger bangs herself while sniffing Ellie's underwear.

I'll be ending my conversation here Until the next part comes out.
Keep up the great work Dev, please consider someone of the suggestion people have made here.
Thanks
 

Vlad11

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Ok, nothing points to Ellie being athletic at all, she hides in her room. She has not had so much unprotected sex, she could have had sex three times, that's it before the last time when he didn't pull out right away. However, it only takes once, as they say.
Athletics has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with the chances of a girl getting pregnant.
It's not very easy to get most women pregnant, a lot of things have to line up right.
Hell, Ellie could be unable to have children if you want to just keep lumping random shit into the mix.

No method is 100% even the pill or morning after pill, some are better than others, pull out is the worst due to precum. Most guys pull out then wank it the last bit.

So, please, stop acting like you know everything.

Enjoy the story, live your fantasy (until it gets shatter in the story).
Lesson of physical education showed, that Ellie is in great physical shape. She even help to Teresa or Scarlet (by the player choiсe) with warmup.

First pill of regular contraception not help Ellie after Larry filled her with his semen many times a night. But is was antibiotic pill, even not contraception pill.

Nadia feeds Ellie good food. Her health should be excellent. Such girls often get pregnant easily. And Larry clearly has a high level of potency.
 
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Vlad11

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This is why Ellie is named Madden... Jesus, get a grip, this is a story about a family... Eugene is Ellie's father and Nadia is Ellie's mother.

But, you believe what you want to believe, it's your imagination and that's the great thing about VNs you can make up whatever you want to fill in the gaps.

The story has an incest tag, there will be incest. I wouldn't be surprised at all by it. It's already been eluded to Ellie being attracted to Nadia. It's even be eluded to the Nadia is attracted to Ellie, she literally finger bangs herself while sniffing Ellie's underwear.

I'll be ending my conversation here Until the next part comes out.
Keep up the great work Dev, please consider someone of the suggestion people have made here.
Thanks
I don't see the incest tag here. After incest patreon may ban VoidStar. Ellie attracted to Nadia, but it's not incest yet. And not fact that this story about family. In one ending, Eugene can stay with Akasha, but game over after this. My opinion is that Akasha is better than Nadia for Eugene
 

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Lesson of physical education points, that Eliie is in great physical shape. She even help to Teresa or Scarlet (by the player choise) with warmup.

First pill of regular contraception not help Ellie after Larry filled her with his semen many times a night. But is was antibiotic pill, even not contraceptiv pill.

Nadia feeds Ellie good food. Her health should be excellent. Such girls often get pregnant easily. And Larry clearly has a high level of potency.
Ok, I said I wouldn't but you're forcing me here.

Larry did not fill Ellie many times, once and only once did he partially cum in her. If that even happened, it's eluded too but never confirmed.

She does not do any athletics on a regular basis. Warming up is not running or lifting weights or anything like that. She is known to hide in her room and be on her computer or phone. It doesn't make you suddenly more likely to get pregnant, the opposite is true, being unhealth doesn't make it likely you will have a hard time getting pregnant. But instead more likely you will not be able to get pregnant because your body rejects it.

Her mom cooks good food, but Ellie rarely eats it all or even at all.

You can't just say that Larry has a high level of potency, where the proof?

You keep posting she that doesn't happen in the VN at all. Like Larry filling her many time a night, when? When did that happen, never. He popped in and had sex once with her when he talked about her being pregnant. Before that a possible three times, 2 with Larry (both time pulled out) and once with his father. If you allowed it that is.

I agree pulling out isn't the best method, precum carries sperm too.

How about sticking to the facts of the story, I can even go along with she took the wrong pill because of the bottle (though I think it was more of a mistake on the Dev's part as I like to think Ellie is smart enough to know the difference).

So see ya later Doc.
 

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Ok, I said I wouldn't but you're forcing me here.

Larry did not fill Ellie many times, once and only once did he partially cum in her. If that even happened, it's eluded too but never confirmed.

She does not do any athletics on a regular basis. Warming up is not running or lifting weights or anything like that. She is known to hide in her room and be on her computer or phone. It doesn't make you suddenly more likely to get pregnant, the opposite is true, being unhealth doesn't make it likely you will have a hard time getting pregnant. But instead more likely you will not be able to get pregnant because your body rejects it.

Her mom cooks good food, but Ellie rarely eats it all or even at all.

You can't just say that Larry has a high level of potency, where the proof?

You keep posting she that doesn't happen in the VN at all. Like Larry filling her many time a night, when? When did that happen, never. He popped in and had sex once with her when he talked about her being pregnant. Before that a possible three times, 2 with Larry (both time pulled out) and once with his father. If you allowed it that is.

I agree pulling out isn't the best method, precum carries sperm too.

How about sticking to the facts of the story, I can even go along with she took the wrong pill because of the bottle (though I think it was more of a mistake on the Dev's part as I like to think Ellie is smart enough to know the difference).

So see ya later Doc.
After the warm-up there was a run around the stadium. And Ellie showed that she is in great physical shape.

Unfortunately, the developer didn't show us this full night, but after, Ellie's vagina was overflowing with Larris semen. And Before this night Ellie had unprotected sex. After night of sex with Larry, Ellie choice antibiotic packaging (it was not a bottle).

The developer is smart enough not to make such stupid mistakes. It wasn't a Dev. mistake.

Ellie has been eating as much as she wants.

The facts of the story are that Ellie is very inexperienced in sex, knows little about contraception and often had unprotected sex. In reality, she would very likely become pregnant after this.

And because Ellie lets Scarlet manipulate herself, she sometimes doesn't act very sensibly.
 
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I don't see the incest tag here. After incest patreon may ban VoidStar. Ellie attracted to Nadia, but it's not incest yet. And not fact that this story about family. In one ending, Eugene can stay with Akasha, but game over after this. My opinion is that Akasha is better than Nadia for Eugene
I might have been mistaken about the tag, unless it got removed to make it safer for Patreon.

The fact of the matter is, this is a story about a broken family and how they get back together or not.
You are allowed your own thoughts, I believe that Nadia and Ellie and mother daughter, based on my ending Eugene is also the father of Ellie.

I also believe there are the start a feelings between Nadia and Ellie.

Patreon makes everything very hard and you have to walk on egg shells with what you do. Giving them all different last names and using tenant is one way to cover the incest if it does happen.
If you go through and define their relationships, it becomes very clear they're family by the way the questions are asked.

These questions say everything about their relationship, the last one clearly defines that Nadia and Eugene are Ellie's parents.
Ellie is Nadia and Eugene's:
Nadia is Ellie's:
Eugene is Ellie's:
Nadia and Eugene are Ellie's:

Yeah an in one ending Nadia is fucked by 30 guys and the dude she was into tells her she will now be fucked everyday like that to make a ton of money.

Already been said that some of the endings do not make sense at all.

After the warm-up there was a run around the stadium. And Ellie showed that she is in great physical shape.

Unfortunately, the developer didn't show us this full night, but after, Ellie's vagina was overflowing with Larris semen. And Before Ellie has inprotected sex.
They had one run in PE, doesn't mean you're athletic.

This makes no sense, 'but after, Ellie's vagina was overflowing with Larris semen. And Before Ellie has inprotected sex.'
What? She was having unprotected sex before Larry did his thing the last time.
At no point was she shown to be overflowing with Larry's cum.
The only possible time he came in her was the 4th time they had sex in her bedroom.

He showed the whole scene. Larry did his thing then made her suck him, then he said money's on the table see you later.
It showed them fuck once and her suck him off once and he left. It never showed her pussy leaking cum.

I just looked at the whole scene again.
Are you done? Can you clean me up? I guess. Money's on the table... Pretty much how it went.

I seriously doubt Ellie would have been very happy if Larry came in here and 'filled' her pussy. I imagine that would have been the end of that.

Never showed any cum dripping from her pussy or down her ass thighs. You can take it two ways in that scene as it's never confirmed he did cum in Ellie. He pulled out or he half pulled out.
But the fact remains it was ONE time, not all night long. If it was all night long I would think Nadia would have something to say when she got home from work.

No really, I'm done here until next update. You're making shit up and starting to sound like a troll.

On a side note: I can see Nadia's money issues going away once Eugene gets back in the picture. I really hope, we as readers get choices to help this along. Eugene is stacked, I hope to even see them move in with him at his place which is much bigger. I have high hopes to see them getting back together.
 
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Developer Blaire and her husband After Pandora's Box 2, it would be great if he releases Pandora's Box 3 for his next project. Blaire is so sweet and so hot. I can't be the only one wondering about his story and how he became corrupt, right? :):love:
 
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Vlad11

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They had one run in PE, doesn't mean you're athletic.
I am sure that they passed the standard for physical education. Need a good physical form for success. And Ellie show us a excellent physical form. The teacher told Teresa afterwards that she could if she tried. But Ellie came running much earlier.
 

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These questions are a strange decision of the developer. I propose to consider the default settings.
No they are not, they set the relationships between the three MCs. Clearly points to them being family and related, sorry it busts your bubble. Clearly things are done to make this more Patreon friendly.

You keep pointing out how they're not family and Ellie isn't Eugene's child. I'm giving you proof that they are family and Ellie is clearly supposed to Eugene's child. It could have been worded much different, but this is how it was worded.

I am against incest.
And so... What does that have to do with anything.

I'm clearly against cheating, but I still play the games with it in it.

I am sure that they passed the standard for physical education. Need a good physical form for success. And Ellie show us a exellent physical form.
Really, come on dude, just because you are in PE doesn't mean you're athletic. It means you do your class to the best of your ability. It's not like it says she ran a mile in 3 mins or something. They were running on the track at their own pace.

For fucks sake, seriously I'm done. You're too much and I'm getting trolled now.
 

Vlad11

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No they are not, they set the relationships between the three MCs. Clearly points to them being family and related, sorry it busts your bubble. Clearly things are done to make this more Patreon friendly.

You keep pointing out how they're not family and Ellie isn't Eugene's child. I'm giving you proof that they are family and Ellie is clearly supposed to Eugene's child. It could have been worded much different, but this is how it was worded.


And so... What does that have to do with anything.

I'm clearly against cheating, but I still play the games with it in it.


Really, come on dude, just because you are in PE doesn't mean you're athletic. It means you do your class to the best of your ability. It's not like it says she ran a mile in 3 mins or something. They were running on the track at their own pace.

For fucks sake, seriously I'm done. You're too much and I'm getting trolled now.
In a physical education lesson, running standards are often passed.
 

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No they are not, they set the relationships between the three MCs. Clearly points to them being family and related, sorry it busts your bubble. Clearly things are done to make this more Patreon friendly.
I do not deny that Ellie may be Eugene's daughter, but Ellie's surname by default is not Eugene's.
 

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I am against incest. And I do not recommend the developer if he does not want to be banned.
Banned, here? Don't make me laugh. Now you're telling the Dev what tags to put in their story? All because you don't like it...
Well I don't like the fact Larry is in the game and can fuck the MCs, maybe the Dev should remove him. I don't like Scarlet and Riley in the picture messing with the MCs. Maybe they should remove them too.
Funny...

They're in itch.io too, patreon isn't the only place to go.

Forgotten Paradise by them has incest, think they know what they're doing.

Ignore is a wonderful thing.
 
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