Ren'Py Parasite Black [Steam Demo v0.154] [Damned Studios]

[Phase_01]

You will always lose some support, especially if you force people to see stuff they don't like. If they hate the game even though certain content is optional... well the average brain power worldwide drops a bit every year.

Well you really added some crap to the game - Netori, gay, then the change with the cheat codes? trust you realize you will loose some potential support with this crap in the story

theyll lose support for some, but they'll also gain support from people that enjoy those fetishes,
including more fetishes increases more potential players, less fetishes = less potential players (but more potential loyal players, but this in itself is also not true, since u can also just loyal players from having lots well done fetishes, instead of just thrown in there)
The potential wins outweighs the potential losses

And like mr porn jesus said, its optional so if that still makes you upset then I don't think this website, or most porn games in general, are for you, if you arent ok with gameplay choices being optional. They're called choices for a reason.

Also its *lose not loose

 

[BGRW2020]

theyll lose support for some, but they'll also gain support from people that enjoy those fetishes,
including more fetishes increases more potential players, less fetishes = less potential players (but more potential loyal players, but this in itself is also not true, since u can also just loyal players from having lots well done fetishes, instead of just thrown in there)
The potential wins outweighs the potential losses

And like mr porn jesus said, its optional so if that still makes you upset then I don't think this website, or most porn games in general, are for you, if you arent ok with gameplay choices being optional. They're called choices for a reason.

Also its *lose not loose

Yes if money is all your at and you have no conscience including these corrupt fetishes that abuse some people can do that - but morally it's complete trash - oh yes it is lose not loose

 

[Porn_Jesus]

Yes if money is all your at and you have no conscience including these corrupt fetishes that abuse some people can do that - but morally it's complete trash - oh yes it is lose not loose

Talking about morale while lurking on a pirate website. Are you even aware of the nonsense you spread?

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Talking about morale while lurking on a pirate website. Are you even aware of the nonsense you spread?

I don't agree with BGRW's perspective. To be fair, however, there are varying degrees of morality, and every individual has their own set of beliefs on stuff. A cannibal, for example, might think it's egregious to steal someone's wife but be completely fine with eating her instead. A zealot might believe it's important to help people as a way of showing your love but then also ridicule people for how they act. It's all very personal, so it doesn't surprise me that someone could find pirating OK but the other as a moral problem.

 

[KhaiFirst]

I don't agree with BGRW's perspective. To be fair, however, there are varying degrees of morality, and every individual has their own set of beliefs on stuff. A cannibal, for example, might think it's egregious to steal someone's wife but be completely fine with eating her instead. A zealot might believe it's important to help people as a way of showing your love but then also ridicule people for how they act. It's all very personal, so it doesn't surprise me that someone could find pirating OK but the other as a moral problem.

mate... your eating too much cookie.. just game.

 

[BGRW2020]

Talking about morale while lurking on a pirate website. Are you even aware of the nonsense you spread?

How wrong you are - but you cannot even see it anymore

 

[Phase_01]

Yes if money is all your at and you have no conscience including these corrupt fetishes that abuse some people can do that - but morally it's complete trash - oh yes it is lose not loose

I am very confused by your statement here

If money was all they wanted, they would play it safe and do the tame fetishes
But they are taking a chance and adding other fetishes, to attract more variety of players. They arent abusing players by forcing them to pay, those players are choosing to pay BECAUSE they like those fetishes.

And these fetishes are corrupt, but that's exactly why we play these games. Its a fantasy game to play fetishes you would not do irl.
By this logic, should the game not have players fighting demons and monsters either? Should it not have them cuz they are corrupt creatures?

It would be immoral if they added these fetishes for paying players telling them they WONT add it, but they've never done that. If people don't like they can stop paying, but they werent lied into paying before learning the fetishes were going in the game, they shared it was planned for the game a long time ago.
Is it immoral to tell ppl they plan to add certain fetishes, and for players to choose to support the devs of their own free will?

I don't think I need to bring up the fact that this is a pirating site either, since that in itself is immoral but I assume you are fine with that since you are on this site. So I don't think your double standard makese sense here.

If you don't like the fetishes then you do not have to play the game, but the teaser pics that have been there for a long time, have been very apparent that there are non-vanilla fetishes in this game, as well as their Developer Notes and tags for the game.
Not every game needs to cater to you alone, some people have very weird fetishes and I do not think that makes them less of a human being, as long as certain fetishes stay a fantasy and not acted on irl (though again, you cant fuck an orc irl, so that premise is also flawed)

 

[BGRW2020]

I am very confused by your statement here

If money was all they wanted, they would play it safe and do the tame fetishes
But they are taking a chance and adding other fetishes, to attract more variety of players. They arent abusing players by forcing them to pay, those players are choosing to pay BECAUSE they like those fetishes.

And these fetishes are corrupt, but that's exactly why we play these games. Its a fantasy game to play fetishes you would not do irl.
By this logic, should the game not have players fighting demons and monsters either? Should it not have them cuz they are corrupt creatures?

It would be immoral if they added these fetishes for paying players telling them they WONT add it, but they've never done that. If people don't like they can stop paying, but they werent lied into paying before learning the fetishes were going in the game, they shared it was planned for the game a long time ago.
Is it immoral to tell ppl they plan to add certain fetishes, and for players to choose to support the devs of their own free will?

I don't think I need to bring up the fact that this is a pirating site either, since that in itself is immoral but I assume you are fine with that since you are on this site. So I don't think your double standard makese sense here.

If you don't like the fetishes then you do not have to play the game, but the teaser pics that have been there for a long time, have been very apparent that there are non-vanilla fetishes in this game, as well as their Developer Notes and tags for the game.
Not every game needs to cater to you alone, some people have very weird fetishes and I do not think that makes them less of a human being, as long as certain fetishes stay a fantasy and not acted on irl (though again, you cant fuck an orc irl, so that premise is also flawed)

really, there are alot of people out there that are not longer moral and as such some devs try and suck them in to their stories but don't care that they are just immoral beings that love to hurt others - and about the fetishes that they would not do but fantasize about them - they would do those corrupt sick fetishes if they could so why keep tempting them -just like sick serial killers were not always killing people but inevitably they spiral out of control and kill innocents etc....

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

really, there are alot of people out there that are not longer moral and as such some devs try and suck them in to their stories but don't care that they are just immoral beings that love to hurt others - and about the fetishes that they would not do but fantasize about them - they would do those corrupt sick fetishes if they could so why keep tempting them -just like sick serial killers were not always killing people but inevitably they spiral out of control and kill innocents etc....

It seems pretty clear that this game is not for you. Why not just move along to something you will enjoy instead? You're not going to convince anyone who enjoys playing the game to stop.

 

[BGRW2020]

It seems pretty clear that this game is not for you. Why not just move along to something you will enjoy instead? You're not going to convince anyone who enjoys playing the game to stop.

I'm actually not trying to stop anyone from playing the game, I'm simply trying to get Dev's to be more thoughtful and moral with their stories

 

[lostraven]

I'm actually not trying to stop anyone from playing the game, I'm simply trying to get Dev's to be more thoughtful and moral with their stories

What exactly in your eyes have I been 'immoral' with in my writing?

 

[Phase_01]

I'm actually not trying to stop anyone from playing the game, I'm simply trying to get Dev's to be more thoughtful and moral with their stories

Should the dev remove combat as well, since it is immoral to kill people?

 

[Phase_01]

really, there are alot of people out there that are not longer moral and as such some devs try and suck them in to their stories but don't care that they are just immoral beings that love to hurt others - and about the fetishes that they would not do but fantasize about them - they would do those corrupt sick fetishes if they could so why keep tempting them -just like sick serial killers were not always killing people but inevitably they spiral out of control and kill innocents etc....

I have a question:
Have I been rude to you in any way in this conversation?
If by your logic these games corrupt people and abuse them, I should be extremely rude and vulgar to you right now, but I do not think I am. If I have been, then I apologize, but if I follow your logic that I am an immoral person for liking different fetishes, I shouldn't be apologizing, since that would be the immoral thing to do.

So if I play a gun fighting game, will I suddenly turn into a shooter?
If I fight people with swords in this game, will I start stabbing people in real life?
The main character also has sex with a lot of women, will I suddenly be having sex with a lot of women because I played this game?

Just because I am into non-vanilla fetishes, does not mean that I am an immoral person, or that I like to hurt others.
To be honest, to most people that is a downright offensive and rude thing to presume.
I have nothing against you as a person, but you seem to completely reject me and others as normal people because we like our fictional drawings to be drawn a certain way.

If I play a game that has incest, netori, traps, exhibitionism, or any fetish, it does not mean that I will do those fetishes in real life.
This is a "game", games are a fictional setting in which a player can interact and do things they would or could not do in real life.

Do not compare porn game players to serial killers, that in itself is immoral and insensitive to people that have been killed by serial killers.

 

[lostraven]

Anytime a story has tags like Netori or any varioation of NTR or rape - blackmailing - these are immoral

1.) If someone's morality is so surface level that an adult porn game can somehow convince them that things like blackmail, rape etc, are good things, they never had any real morality to begin with.

2.) I, nor any devs are moral arbiters, it's my job to entertain people and make them think, thats it - It's not my job to instill basic ethics into people that should already be there.

3.) You could apply your metric to literally any media. I hope you don't watch or play any games/shows with guns, they will no doubt corrupt your mind as you seek out more and more violent games and you'll end up becoming one of those School shooters.

4.) This is fantasy, if someone cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, they need a shrink, not a moral arbiter.

 

[Imrick]

when is the release on steam?

 

[lostraven]

when is the release on steam?

Funny you mention that, we're working on the steam trailer now, finally got the animation stuff for the trailer. Hopefully next month we'll have the page finally up for wishlisting, then it'll release 3-4 months after that in early access.

 

[BGRW2020]

1.) If someone's morality is so surface level that an adult porn game can somehow convince them that things like blackmail, rape etc, are good things, they never had any real morality to begin with.

2.) I, nor any devs are moral arbiters, it's my job to entertain people and make them think, thats it - It's not my job to instill basic ethics into people that should already be there.

3.) You could apply your metric to literally any media. I hope you don't watch or play any games/shows with guns, they will no doubt corrupt your mind as you seek out more and more violent games and you'll end up becoming one of those School shooters.

4.) This is fantasy, if someone cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, they need a shrink, not a moral arbiter.

I hear you but know this everyone is in fact an arbiter as they affect the masses that are gullible and can be swayed to accepting anything - but enough of this - good luck to your story

 

[Imrick]

Great, thanks

 

[razzled]

I hear you but know this everyone is in fact an arbiter as they affect the masses that are gullible and can be swayed to accepting anything - but enough of this - good luck to your story

what about "problematic" content in other media then? wouldnt you say that pushing of toxic behaviour, such as cheating or glorification of violence and murderers in tv shows for example is unproblematic and even more wide spread than a porn game?

 

[BGRW2020]

what about "problematic" content in other media then? wouldnt you say that pushing of toxic behaviour, such as cheating or glorification of violence and murderers in tv shows for example is unproblematic and even more wide spread than a porn game?

Probably correct - but most crime has a sexual content or influence