Ren'Py Abandoned Patronus [v3.2.72 Final] [DVE Games]

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That comparison is simply grotesque.

I've played that Desert Stalker game a while ago. Basically a total "dweeb" game - instant barrier-free incest with the daughter, laughable poorly written and depicted game world / characters / story, pubertal fantasies of violence and omnipotence, etc.

Patronus in comparison is an actual Adult game which deserves that name. Even if it never receives another update, it easily has its place among the "top 5" of adult games ever made.

Wether it's due to the effort for the historically accurate setting, the amazing custom artwork, the character and world building / writing, or simply the fact that the incest taboo is actually being respected and utilized.

Meaning the sister didn't give the MC a handjob on first occasion because he has carpal tunnel syndrome, or she accidentally saw his horse-sized cock in the shower (which incidentally is a huge turn-off for most women) or whatever bullshit all the wannabe-adult games keep playing up and down.

I'd agree with this being a grotesque comparison, but in the opposite direction.

Desert Stalker is a porn fan's porn game. Sex is everywhere, in the family, amongst neighbors, amongst friends and enemies. Separate from the setting and story, the interface is slick and modern, pretty much the opposite of this.

I agree this has wonderful artwork and setting, the world feels immersive and great, but all that is hamstrung by the clunky ui and very limited gameplay. DS on the other hand often listens to what the fans want - for which you may criticize as 'uninspired' or overly populist - but at least it's approachable.

In Patronus, the steps neccesary to travel from point A to point B or purchase item C (as described in detail in my review) are so unneccesarily convoluted it was bound to turn off 90% of players.

 

[tretch95]

Desert Stalker is a porn fan's porn game. Sex is everywhere, in the family, amongst neighbors, amongst friends and enemies.

That's exactly what i mean with "dweeb game"...

Maybe people are fine with this if they've never seen a woman naked IRL, not to think of actually having a girlfriend or wife. And who only know human interactions from hentai comics and anime cartoons.

For the other 99.9% of the adults in this world who actually have a life, what you're describing is the purest cringe material.

I mean - if everyone is fine with the MC fucking his daughter right off the bat, then where's the thrill of the taboo? At that point it's just a meaningless, poorly made trashporn story where all characters are exchangeable.




Like the pizza boy ringing the door, and... woops! Mrs. Buttfield doesn't have any money in the house. Could there be any other way to pay...?

*raunchy 1980s saxophone music playing*

But wait, that comparison is an insult for vintage porn. Because a deliveryboy fucking a married housewive actually happens in the real world. And is super-taboo unless the husband is a lousy cuck.

Though i don't expect the autistic "harem" anime dweebs to understand that.

 

[Yngling]

poorly made trashporn story where all characters are exchangeable.

I guess you didn't actually play Desert Stalker.

Try it.

Seriously, I highly doubt you'll be disappointed, unless you really hate sci-fi or dystopian settings.

That endorsement does not mean that I think Desert Stalker can be compared with Patronus. They are completely different games in nearly all aspects. The only similarities that I can see is deep, immersive world building, great attention to details and being all around outstanding games. But while Patronus is a historical management game, DS is a sci-fi VN.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That's exactly what i mean with "dweeb game"...

Maybe people are fine with this if they've never seen a woman naked IRL, not to think of actually having a girlfriend or wife. And who only know human interactions from hentai comics and anime cartoons.

For the other 99.9% of the adults in this world who actually have a life, what you're describing is the purest cringe material.

I mean - if everyone is fine with the MC fucking his daughter right off the bat, then where's the thrill of the taboo? At that point it's just a meaningless, poorly made trashporn story where all characters are exchangeable.




Like the pizza boy ringing the door, and... woops! Mrs. Buttfield doesn't have any money in the house. Could there be any other way to pay...?

*raunchy 1980s saxophone music playing*

But wait, that comparison is an insult for vintage porn. Because a deliveryboy fucking a married housewive actually happens in the real world. And is super-taboo unless the husband is a lousy cuck.

Though i don't expect the autistic "harem" anime dweebs to understand that.

Strangely I'd share the exact same language you used towards the same crowd; so I understand completely, but I don't understand how you ignore these same tropes right here in patronus.

I get it, I really do, I recoil the same way whenever some weeb cringe line jumps out at the player which is normalized by virtue of the playerbase being, well, the aforementioned.

Patronus has that stuff too, I don't remember it line for line as it's been awhile, but the "overcompensating dom" type of stuff- when the girls are being gentle with you, and mc sounds like a tryhard asshole - not an actual asshole, but some dork's conception of lines an "alpha asshole" would say. Dialogue that would cause any real world woman to run the other way. That stuff kills immersion for me, no matter what the game.

I guess my point is I don't hold either game's dialogue up to a high standard, and that portion of the scoreboard is a wash for me. Past that, I'd be much more sympathetic to patronus if the ux/ui wasn't such a quagmire to navigate.

 

[Yngling]

Patronus has that stuff too, I don't remember it line for line as it's been awhile, but the "overcompensating dom" type of stuff- when the girls are being gentle with you, and mc sounds like a tryhard asshole - not an actual asshole, but some dork's conception of lines an "alpha asshole" would say. Dialogue that would cause any real world woman to run the other way. That stuff kills immersion for me, no matter what the game.

To be fair, Patronus is set in ancient Rome. The MC is a member of the Equites, the second highest class and a seasoned senior army officer. This means he is far, far above any of the women in the game, who, being slaves and prostitutes, are barely allowed to kiss the ground he walks on. They cannot "run the other way" because the chains are keeping them firmly in place

 

[tretch95]

Technical issues are just one side.

Same like a movie with horrible trash script and cringey acting can get six oscars for other things (e.g. Mad Max 2015) or vice versa.

Who knows, perhaps they can also take the lessons learned and start a reboot with a different engine. I think they were aware that RenPy was a terrible choice due to massive lag, even with a low amount of gameplay variables to calculate on every click.

 

[Capora]

I stuck on the quest: Dealing with Inga.
Anyone knows how to meet Valeria?.

 

[Deleted member 3679762]

I stuck on the quest: Dealing with Inga.
Anyone knows how to meet Valeria?.

You lose to Inga a second time. Then Parmidia will come into your room and complain that you're making a fool out of yourself. Then you talk to Alfidia who set you on the course to the Slums where you find Valeria. If I remember correctly.

 

[Capora]

You lose to Inga a second time. Then Parmidia will come into your room and complain that you're making a fool out of yourself. Then you talk to Alfidia who set you on the course to the Slums where you find Valeria. If I remember correctly.

Thanks I think my save file is corrupted and the following was not activated. I had to resort to the cheat menu.

 

[Klereb]

are there scenes between the slaves and the brothel clients?

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

are there scenes between the slaves and the brothel clients?

No.

 

[mydhard]

is this game officialy dead?

 

[Kavalor]

no its not officially dead

 

[taler]

Projects like those repulsive, cringeworthy HoneySelect animations in your signature? No thanks.

Patronus has probably been the single most ambitious project in the history of homegrown™ adult gaming. They already had a lot of issues with the game to start with, in particular because they stuck with RenPy as engine, which is clearly not capable of running more background calculations than a basic VN needs.

Now it seems like their team has people on both sides of the russian invasion of ukraine. So all we can do right now, is wish the best to the devs and hope things work out for them.

You should try https://f95zone.to/threads/hero-party-must-fall-v0-4-5-bugfix-2-nitrolith.100153/ I think you would really like it if you can get past your prejudices.

 

[ubblesnop]

Patronus has probably been the single most ambitious project in the history of homegrown™ adult gaming. They already had a lot of issues with the game to start with, in particular because they stuck with RenPy as engine, which is clearly not capable of running more background calculations than a basic VN needs.

If you meant to say "misguided" but were autocorrected to "ambitious," your post would make sense.

Patronus was, nearly by intent, a misery engine, designed to create maximum dissatisfaction through a continuous, unnecessary, constant heaping-on of repetitive, tedious chores. The more energy players put into it, the more unhappy they'd become.

The culling of negative comments from the thread and negative reviews from the review page is part-and-parcel of the developers' vision. I can't say what I hope will happen to them because it would get deleted, but their whole outlook of gaming is fundamentally one of contempt and hostility toward players. I hope they never come back, and all their ilk.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

If you meant to say "misguided" but were autocorrected to "ambitious," your post would make sense.

Patronus was, nearly by intent, a misery engine, designed to create maximum dissatisfaction through a continuous, unnecessary, constant heaping-on of repetitive, tedious chores. The more energy players put into it, the more unhappy they'd become.

The culling of negative comments from the thread and negative reviews from the review page is part-and-parcel of the developers' vision. I can't say what I hope will happen to them because it would get deleted, but their whole outlook of gaming is fundamentally one of contempt and hostility toward players. I hope they never come back, and all their ilk.

If any potential players skimming this thread think this is just hyperbole or empty ranting, read my review detailing the process of getting materials from the store to home.

The game is either meant to make people unhappy, or it's aimed at the Factorio/Satisfactory crowd (of which I delight!) yet with none of the payoff.

 

[taler]

If any potential players skimming this thread think this is just hyperbole or empty ranting, read my review detailing the process of getting materials from the store to home.

The game is either meant to make people unhappy, or it's aimed at the Factorio/Satisfactory crowd (of which I delight!) yet with none of the payoff.

Don't agree, it doesn't seem malicious just misguided. If you want malicious see the game "become taxi driver", that game has grind specifically intended to make you waste time. This is stuff that I can see an amateur dev thinking it adds immersion or some shit.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Don't agree, it doesn't seem malicious just misguided. If you want malicious see the game "become taxi driver", that game has grind specifically intended to make you waste time. This is stuff that I can see an amateur dev thinking it adds immersion or some shit.

Ok thats probably fair, I should have clarified I dont agree with the above poster 100% as far as malicious intent goes. But overall, the game's extremely frustrating UI and mechanics should not be understated to potential new players.

 

[tretch95]

The culling of negative comments from the thread and negative reviews from the review page is part-and-parcel of the developers' vision. I can't say what I hope will happen to them because it would get deleted, but their whole outlook of gaming is fundamentally one of contempt and hostility toward players. I hope they never come back, and all their ilk.

Not sure what you're trying to imply. Game devs cannot delete comments or reviews on this forum. Moderators remove posts as they wish, reviews have to be accepted and follow the guidelines.

Though i guess you already know that with over 600 posts. Then why make that accusation?

 

[Perniciousducks]

Not sure what you're trying to imply. Game devs cannot delete comments or reviews on this forum. Moderators remove posts as they wish, reviews have to be accepted and follow the guidelines.

Though i guess you already know that with over 600 posts. Then why make that accusation?

Because baseless conspiracy nonsense is one of the most common tropes of this website