RPGM Peasant's Quest [v3.41] [Tinkerer]

[FunFuntomes]

Do you guys have any idea of specific release date(test) of the upcoming update?

if Tinkerer manages to complete his draft by the end of the week, we're looking at a possible test version on August 17th.
If Tinkerer doesn't manage to finish his draft ny the end of this week, we're lookig at August 24th

 

[FunFuntomes]

Would love to start fighting some Angels as well at some point, perhaps in service to the Lord of Light; have some Cherubs, Maleks, Archangels, Ophanim, Seraphim ect being sent down or summoned by Purifiers/Priests to aid in battle!

Would be a shock to many players to defeat an Archangel then face a Cherub only to find them a MUCH tougher opponent...

Depends if Tinkerer decides to go biblically accurate or mainstream with Angels. Bible Cherubs would be super powerful compared to Archangels.

Mainstream would be baby faced wusses...

the biggest issue with this is balancing the creature's power with the MC's capabilities. Tye angel would have to be powerful yet beatable. and it would have to be stronger than The Master. Tinkerer set that quest's difficulty for a level 17 MC which means an angel would have to pose a threat to a level 20-29 player character. and not many people grind that far..

 

[Damagus01]

the biggest issue with this is balancing the creature's power with the MC's capabilities. Tye angel would have to be powerful yet beatable. and it would have to be stronger than The Master. Tinkerer set that quest's difficulty for a level 17 MC which means an angel would have to pose a threat to a level 20-29 player character. and not many people grind that far..

Make their first appearance dependent on completing Cath's and/or the Baron's household content once those are added. You'd think the MC would be level 20+ by then even if skipping some side girls' questlines. Potions and other items (crystalized eggs, ring of magic, etc.) would help even the odds. Or the Medallion, but it needs to be balanced for an MC not using it.

I picture lower-ranking angels as roughly the same power as lesser demons/hellhounds/trolls/ogres, maybe with a spell-like ability such as Mesmerize/Stun (they DO keep telling people "do not be afraid..."). Archangels are tougher, up to around Master's/Vixenatrix' equal with more special abilities, say a MP drain. Principalities are where they start getting REALLY scary.

RE: grinding, I must be an outlier, though I don't feel like I'm doing that...

 

[whitedevil15820]

Is there any time chart or approximate schedule for updates? Like two months once or three months once?

 

[Damagus01]

Is there any time chart or approximate schedule for updates? Like two months once or three months once?

Not specifically, but there's 3-4 full updates a year on average.

Tinkerer does pretty much everything himself (a couple of people help him with specific items like animations & QC), plus he has a full-time job and a family with kids. Sometimes delays outside his control happen, too. Then there's patches for things that get found by early access players, and occasionally small updates between the full ones incorporating patches, tweaks, and stuff that was unintentionally left out. He's VERY good at providing updates to supporters every couple of weeks or so, in fact there was one yesterday.

 

[FunFuntomes]

Not specifically, but there's 3-4 full updates a year on average.

Tinkerer does pretty much everything himself (a couple of people help him with specific items like animations & QC), plus he has a full-time job and a family with kids. Sometimes delays outside his control happen, too. Then there's patches for things that get found by early access players, and occasionally small updates between the full ones incorporating patches, tweaks, and stuff that was unintentionally left out. He's VERY good at providing updates to supporters every couple of weeks or so, in fact there was one yesterday.

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to elaborate on that. Tinkerer is currently finishing his draft, after that it will go to his primary tester and after that it will be released as a test version

 

[DomWolf]

the biggest issue with this is balancing the creature's power with the MC's capabilities. Tye angel would have to be powerful yet beatable. and it would have to be stronger than The Master. Tinkerer set that quest's difficulty for a level 17 MC which means an angel would have to pose a threat to a level 20-29 player character. and not many people grind that far..

Well I feel like Angels would make for great high level enemies & one thing people need to remeber is this is an RPG w/ porn so having enemies actually get tougher is kind of expected. If MC gets into conflict with the LoL then of course he will send his minions, including angels, to deal with MC. If players get to the mid-late game & havent done enough quests to at least hold there own then that's there fault really. Same with Master & Reanna wo are pretty dam powerful foes if you're not ready.

Make their first appearance dependent on completing Cath's and/or the Baron's household content once those are added. You'd think the MC would be level 20+ by then even if skipping some side girls' questlines. Potions and other items (crystalized eggs, ring of magic, etc.) would help even the odds. Or the Medallion, but it needs to be balanced for an MC not using it.

I picture lower-ranking angels as roughly the same power as lesser demons/hellhounds/trolls/ogres, maybe with a spell-like ability such as Mesmerize/Stun (they DO keep telling people "do not be afraid..."). Archangels are tougher, up to around Master's/Vixenatrix' equal with more special abilities, say a MP drain. Principalities are where they start getting REALLY scary.

RE: grinding, I must be an outlier, though I don't feel like I'm doing that...

I dont feel Angels should appear in Cath/Baron story. It would feel more natural if they are mid-late game enemies for the main questline (if MC is fighting the Lord of Light that is). They would be his servants after all. Cath/Baron would focus on the Bandit Conspiracy arc.

I would imagine the lowest ranking Angel being more like Greater Demons, then they get worse as they get stronger. But the stronger the Angels the harder they would be to manifest & maintain on the mortal plain so perhaps the really powerful ones are summoned as bosses or met in the Supernatural World during big Main Story quests. They may not even be based on biblical Angels, instead being Lesser Angels, Greater Angels ect... but I kind of hope they are more like Malekim, Archangels, Cherubs, Ophanim, Seraphim & so on.

Not ALL Angels have to be super powers mini-bosses, but having some scary Angels show up would be kinda cool. Would love them to look like marble figures with feathered wings & halos (mabey like the ones in Bayonetta? They are cool)

 

[Stil996]

Well I feel like Angels would make for great high level enemies & one thing people need to remeber is this is an RPG w/ porn so having enemies actually get tougher is kind of expected. If MC gets into conflict with the LoL then of course he will send his minions, including angels, to deal with MC. If players get to the mid-late game & havent done enough quests to at least hold there own then that's there fault really. Same with Master & Reanna wo are pretty dam powerful foes if you're not ready.



I dont feel Angels should appear in Cath/Baron story. It would feel more natural if they are mid-late game enemies for the main questline (if MC is fighting the Lord of Light that is). They would be his servants after all. Cath/Baron would focus on the Bandit Conspiracy arc.

I would imagine the lowest ranking Angel being more like Greater Demons, then they get worse as they get stronger. But the stronger the Angels the harder they would be to manifest & maintain on the mortal plain so perhaps the really powerful ones are summoned as bosses or met in the Supernatural World during big Main Story quests. They may not even be based on biblical Angels, instead being Lesser Angels, Greater Angels ect... but I kind of hope they are more like Malekim, Archangels, Cherubs, Ophanim, Seraphim & so on.

Not ALL Angels have to be super powers mini-bosses, but having some scary Angels show up would be kinda cool. Would love them to look like marble figures with feathered wings & halos (mabey like the ones in Bayonetta? They are cool)

Are you guys talking about something that IS planned for the game or something you HOPE is planned for the game?

My Two Cents : Angels & Demons are equal (literally, since the dominant lore has demons as fallen angels), so they should have equal strengths within their respective tiers, with lesser angel/demons (aka "Mongrels") being little more than possessed/corrupted mortals (multiple tiers of "mongrels"??), moving up to full blood Angels/Demons (multiple tiers??), then over them are the "officers" aka ArchAngels/ArchDemons. Then the big boys who answer directly to their god, The Lord of the Host Aka Generals (That is Host/Choir of Angels/Host of demons).

 

[DomWolf]

Are you guys talking about something that IS planned for the game or something you HOPE is planned for the game?

My Two Cents : Angels & Demons are equal (literally, since the dominant lore has demons as fallen angels), so they should have equal strengths within their respective tiers, with lesser angel/demons (aka "Mongrels") being little more than possessed/corrupted mortals (multiple tiers of "mongrels"??), moving up to full blood Angels/Demons (multiple tiers??), then over them are the "officers" aka ArchAngels/ArchDemons. Then the big boys who answer directly to their god, The Lord of the Host Aka Generals (That is Host/Choir of Angels/Host of demons).

Just a general discussion on what we would like to see.

 

[Damagus01]

I dont feel Angels should appear in Cath/Baron story. It would feel more natural if they are mid-late game enemies for the main questline (if MC is fighting the Lord of Light that is). They would be his servants after all. Cath/Baron would focus on the Bandit Conspiracy arc.

Agreed, the suggestion was more about the timing for when they might appear as opponents (i.e. prequisite quests completed) than having them actually tied to those storylines. Though I could see the LoL being displeased at losing influence to some nobody who happens to have the backing of rival god(s), and dispatching minions to redress the situation... TBH I think direct conflict with Purifiers and the LoL should be a separate questline of its own, rather than recurring opponents in other storylines.

 

[FunFuntomes]

Well I feel like Angels would make for great high level enemies & one thing people need to remeber is this is an RPG w/ porn so having enemies actually get tougher is kind of expected. If MC gets into conflict with the LoL then of course he will send his minions, including angels, to deal with MC. If players get to the mid-late game & havent done enough quests to at least hold there own then that's there fault really. Same with Master & Reanna wo are pretty dam powerful foes if you're not ready.



I dont feel Angels should appear in Cath/Baron story. It would feel more natural if they are mid-late game enemies for the main questline (if MC is fighting the Lord of Light that is). They would be his servants after all. Cath/Baron would focus on the Bandit Conspiracy arc.

I would imagine the lowest ranking Angel being more like Greater Demons, then they get worse as they get stronger. But the stronger the Angels the harder they would be to manifest & maintain on the mortal plain so perhaps the really powerful ones are summoned as bosses or met in the Supernatural World during big Main Story quests. They may not even be based on biblical Angels, instead being Lesser Angels, Greater Angels ect... but I kind of hope they are more like Malekim, Archangels, Cherubs, Ophanim, Seraphim & so on.

Not ALL Angels have to be super powers mini-bosses, but having some scary Angels show up would be kinda cool. Would love them to look like marble figures with feathered wings & halos (mabey like the ones in Bayonetta? They are cool)

Agreed, the suggestion was more about the timing for when they might appear as opponents (i.e. prequisite quests completed) than having them actually tied to those storylines. Though I could see the LoL being displeased at losing influence to some nobody who happens to have the backing of rival god(s), and dispatching minions to redress the situation... TBH I think direct conflict with Purifiers and the LoL should be a separate questline of its own, rather than recurring opponents in other storylines.

I really hope uncle LoL will be the final boss... the image on the main menu makes me hope he will.

 

[DomWolf]

I really hope uncle LoL will be the final boss... the image on the main menu makes me hope he will.

My hope is that the Qeteshians & Nergalites will unite against LoL. Imagine the final boss is a pride god of light who defies everything that both main factions embody!

Also I feel if we do fight the LoL he should appear as a humanoid figure silhouetted by such bright light that you cant make out his features/details just cos that feels like it would make a great final boss (at least what I have pictured in my head.

 

[FunFuntomes]

My hope is that the Qeteshians & Nergalites will unite against LoL. Imagine the final boss is a pride god of light who defies everything that both main factions embody!

Also I feel if we do fight the LoL he should appear as a humanoid figure silhouetted by such bright light that you cant make out his features/details just cos that feels like it would make a great final boss (at least what I have pictured in my head.

I think uncle LoL should be a multi-stage bossfight and each stage should be on a different plane of existence

 

[DomWolf]

I think uncle LoL should be a multi-stage bossfight and each stage should be on a different plane of existence

Mabey with him shifting forms into something more & more biblically horrific as it happens!

 

[FunFuntomes]

Mabey with him shifting forms into something more & more biblically horrific as it happens!

I was thinking more along a handsome dude that keepsgetting increasingly angry that his sister chose someone else

 

[DomWolf]

I was thinking more along a handsome dude that keepsgetting increasingly angry that his sister chose someone else

I mean both work IMO

 

[M3ntir]

did i miss any important thing in the threat?

 

[Damagus01]

did i miss any important thing in the threat?

Mostly discussing whether angels might show up as opponents (consensus: we'd like it, with them serving the Lord of Light), when might be appropriate in the larger story (no consensus), why (no consensus), and how powerful they might be (consensus: starting at about lesser demon/hellhound with tougher types as things progress storywise).

I'm in favor of developing a conflict with the Purifiers and eventually the LoL as it's own storyline.

 

[Stil996]

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did i miss any important thing in the threat?

Mostly discussing whether angels might show up as opponents (consensus: we'd like it, with them serving the Lord of Light), when might be appropriate in the larger story (no consensus), why (no consensus), and how powerful they might be (consensus: starting at about lesser demon/hellhound with tougher types as things progress storywise).

I'm in favor of developing a conflict with the Purifiers and eventually the LoL as it's own storyline.

I'm in favour of Adding Angels, Fighting Angels and fucking Angels ...As long as they aren't the fluffy angels the so many movies & tv shows try to paint them to be... lets have some hard hitting, killing the first borns, smiting kind of angels

 

[DomWolf]

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did i miss any important thing in the threat?

I'm in favor of developing a conflict with the Purifiers and eventually the LoL as it's own storyline.

I more inclined for the LoL to be the BBEG & be an enemy that takes presidency through the Main Quests.