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AlecVentrue

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Yea i did the Quest at beginn with the Taylor and his Clothes, did that with the Ogre Wive, found the first Gigantus Potion yep, used it on Frida, how is btw now Pregnant :D.
And now i can buy it by the Taylor.
The only Thing, there is in the Ancient Valley a old Ruin, inside is some blueish Stone with some Runes, how to use? huh.
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iroll1s

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Yea i did the Quest at beginn with the Taylor and his Clothes, did that with the Ogre Wive, found the first Gigantus Potion yep, used it on Frida, how is btw now Pregnant :D.
And now i can buy it by the Taylor.
The only Thing, there is in the Ancient Valley a old Ruin, inside is some blueish Stone with some Runes, how to use? huh.
Tysm all your great
Am I right in assuming you mean the "The Shrine of The Ancients" (the region east of the Goblin Forest)?
Then, ehm, I guess you've found one of the many waystones? They are part of a quest (a bit later in the game) and the quick-travel system. You'll have the possibility to do all that stuff after some "quests" in the "Tower of Dread".
 
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Btw for the Grumpkins I managed to set it up so I had my daughter & my Familiar with me when I went down. That little imp is the best, cant wait till she grows so I can "reward" her
I have it on lvl 99 maxed, you can't really "reward" her, at least not with the current content.
 
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Evangelion-01

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Yea i did the Quest at beginn with the Taylor and his Clothes, did that with the Ogre Wive, found the first Gigantus Potion yep, used it on Frida, how is btw now Pregnant :D.
And now i can buy it by the Taylor.
The only Thing, there is in the Ancient Valley a old Ruin, inside is some blueish Stone with some Runes, how to use? huh.
Tysm all your great
That shouldn't be possible without cheating... as long as you haven't recovered his potions and wares he should block the entrance to his shop... and you need the potion in order to not get killed by Maghda
 
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Quick question if anyone could clarify this for me.

I have read that Tinkerer intends to add a Cow-Girl into the game but also I've heard he's adding a Huldra. Now does anyone know if they are they the same person (I know that Huldra are nature spirits with hoofed feet, cow tails & occasionally horns) or different people (because I have also read that Huldra are like female trolls in some myths).

If anyone knows if they are the same or different woman would be helpful to clarify plz. Thank you.
 
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I had a lot of hopes for this game but it needs to stop forcing NTR and Sharing onto its players. It let me avoid the gangbang of Shakala in the goblin village but I have to Share Ziva with the retarded giant Grug??? What the fuck?!?!
Please give us an option to avoid this. Or hell, give us the option from an earlier version where it let us just murder the fucking giant after we beat him getting to the temple first!

Seriously, though, this really pissed me off after i've seen multiple times the NTR was suppose to be optional.
 
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AlecVentrue

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The only Question is now, where is that Guy, who trains you in Double Handed Weapon and Heavy Armor? In the Ruin of the Ancients or in that Building where i grabed the Chalice?
Tysm
 

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The only Question is now, where is that Guy, who trains you in Double Handed Weapon and Heavy Armor? In the Ruin of the Ancients or in that Building where i grabed the Chalice?
Tysm
Gabriel stands outside the Temple of Qetesh. To the left of the entrance staircase during the day.
 
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DomWolf

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I had a lot of hopes for this game but it needs to stop forcing NTR and Sharing onto its players. It let me avoid the gangbang of Shakala in the goblin village but I have to Share Ziva with the retarded giant Grug??? What the fuck?!?!
Please give us an option to avoid this. Or hell, give us the option from an earlier version where it let us just murder the fucking giant after we beat him getting to the temple first!

Seriously, though, this really pissed me off after i've seen multiple times the NTR was suppose to be optional.

Well Tinkerer has said he has a "soft spot" for Grug the giant. Also Ziva is one of "you're girls yet" she is the priestess of a SEX CULT. Shes more open with her body & that was a reward to Grug for letting them "stay in (his) house".

I personally dont see the problem really. You can veto the goblin gangbang, stop the goblins from molesting Mia, outright skip the werewolf (I like killing him afterwards tho), and jump in to save Caleah from the orc right away. Nothing else really feels forced on the player & Ziva still has a growing affection for you the more you help restore her faith.

I completly understand you tho I'm personally not a fan but it's 1 scene with 1 chick out of like 24 women.

SPOILERS??
Also let's be honest you're character has cheated with the Mayor's wife, is cheating with the ogre, knocked Alice up to break off her wedding & is cheating on Frida with her sister... you can share with the giant lol
 

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I had a lot of hopes for this game but it needs to stop forcing NTR and Sharing onto its players. It let me avoid the gangbang of Shakala in the goblin village but I have to Share Ziva with the retarded giant Grug??? What the fuck?!?!
Please give us an option to avoid this. Or hell, give us the option from an earlier version where it let us just murder the fucking giant after we beat him getting to the temple first!

Seriously, though, this really pissed me off after i've seen multiple times the NTR was suppose to be optional.
....3-somes are NOT NTR.
Grug is relevant to Zivahs story so killing him shouldn't be an option.. that said if you became a Patreon and politely asked Tinkerer to offer a switch to pass that one scene he might accept the request, same as he did for Mia and Shakalah
 

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....3-somes are NOT NTR.
Grug is relevant to Zivahs story so killing him shouldn't be an option.. that said if you became a Patreon and politely asked Tinkerer to offer a switch to pass that one scene he might accept the request, same as he did for Mia and Shakalah
The definition people on here have for NTR is ridiculous. I'd honestly never seen people try to push that definition anywhere else before this forum and I've been on porn forums for way longer than I should have been lol. Also where did Tinkerer promise no forced "NTR"? On the Patreon?
 

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I had a lot of hopes for this game but it needs to stop forcing NTR and Sharing onto its players. It let me avoid the gangbang of Shakala in the goblin village but I have to Share Ziva with the retarded giant Grug??? What the fuck?!?!
Please give us an option to avoid this. Or hell, give us the option from an earlier version where it let us just murder the fucking giant after we beat him getting to the temple first!

Seriously, though, this really pissed me off after i've seen multiple times the NTR was suppose to be optional.
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there are ways to go around, there is an option to skip the sex scene with Shakala and the goblins, and you can fight Grug, so i don't know why you are complaining about it, the NTR stuff can be skipped.
 

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Meanwhile i love Shakala very, she is sweet, she is cute and she is soooo beautyful. And she is pregnant. Also Frida is pregnant and the damn Scene with the Well and Liandra wont show up, even if i am already very far in the Story and on Lv 16.
Than the Dark Elf Woman, the very Domme like is pregnant, but she is not an Succubus, she is a Darl Elf!
A Succubus has Wings on the back Horns on her forehead and mostly an Crossbow!
 

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Seriously, though, this really pissed me off after i've seen multiple times the NTR was suppose to be optional.
While I may not be a fan of that particular three letter fetish, all the scenes have a very real place in the story and make sense in the Peasant’s world.

It's a matter of perspective. Give them your sloppy seconds, or not.
there is an option to skip the sex scene with Shakala and the goblins
The other goblins in the tribe loose either way.
female births are 1 in 100 of course the dudes would make it tradition that newly wed brides gotta bang the whole tribe... they horny as f***!

[...] outright skip the werewolf (I like killing him afterwards tho)
Mia being attacked by the werewolf is one of those instances, where you are able to further strengthen your claim and assert dominance. It’s a dangerous world and literally nobody is going to f*** with any of your girls if you make it crystal clear you are willing to dish out death sentences to protect them. Personally, I went with the shapeshift option, as soon as it was released. There really was no reason story-wise, for me to be offered a chance to reclaim Mia at that point. I’ve been spending a lot of time in her part of the forest, killing and gathering, meeting my elven sidepiece and generally having a splendid time talking with the kids about my not telling mommy about aunty Gwyn.

Well Tinkerer has said he has a "soft spot" for Grug the giant.
I don’t like Grug. He’s Frida’s ex (?) and a bully: giants get dumber and meaner the bigger and older they get. He needed to be taken down a notch, because none of the MC's partners and offspring deserve to become a giant’s dinner or c***-sleeve, when going for a walk in the valley.
Grug is relevant to Zivahs story so killing him shouldn't be an option.
It was a rather strange surprise to find him working with Zivah later on, but trusting her and letting her do her thing is the only sure way to making her a valued ally.

Can’t speak for all, but any naughty scene in general is nice addition to the game. Better yet if it serves the story.
 
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The ArcKnight

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there are ways to go around, there is an option to skip the sex scene with Shakala and the goblins, and you can fight Grug, so i don't know why you are complaining about it, the NTR stuff can be skipped.
When you dedicate Zivahs temple, the MC is forced to have threesome with her and Grug.

As for others who've commented, the reason why I personally use the NTR label so broadly is because there is no other catch all term for "MC's love interest being fucked by another guy." Its the closest thing that fits as typically in games, this action falls into NTR territory. Not always mind you, I have also seen plenty of Devs try to include the Li/other male content while skirting the literal definition of NTR, with statements like "well no, its not NTR because they arnt in a formal relationship with the MC, you can't get mad at NTR because its technically not." Like come on, its the same damn thing, you're putting the scene in the game of another male fucking the Love interest to invoke an emotional response of jealousy from the reader, quit splitting hairs here, that's NTR in everything but name.

I'm not a fan of sharing love interests with other guys. Whether it is sharing, swinging, group sex, or straight up NTR. I just don't get why he'd Tinkerer wouldn't include a choice to avoid that scene like he did with Shakala and the goblins or Mia and the werewolf? This game would be fine if he just included a choice like he did with the others.

I'm sorry if I come off as an asshole because I word things strongly. At the end of the day, its just a game and I myself skipped past it as quickly as possible and moved on to fucking up the country side with the succubus daughter. I just have a strong dislike for that type of content when it's forced on me. I'm all for people liking what they like, so long as I don't have to deal with it.

Edit: Quick aside, I personally dont care if it makes canonical sense for a female character to cheat or sleep around, or have other lovers, ect. I'm just a territorial asshole who wants all the woman for himself. I hate sharing and no amount of rationalizing will get me to be okay with it. Hell, I'd happily murder every other male character in the game just to make sure there was no competition if given the option, friend or foe, story be damned. In the case of Zivah, I get she's a sacred prostitute, her religion is all about spreading free love to everyone. I just don't want to share so I personally would prefer to be able to just ignore her completely now she's proven she's fucking other guys. I'd also prefer to be able to get Calithe(sp), the young swamp elf we rescued, the hell out of that temple before she's forced to whore herself out. Set Cailthe up in one of the MC's many home bases. perhaps pair her up with our High elf lover near the well. I know it wont happen and both her and Zivah will be taking giant dick left and right when the MC is away, but she's a super cute character so I hold out the tiniest of hopes.
 
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iroll1s

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As for others who've commented, the reason why I personally use the NTR label so broadly is because there is no other catch all term for "MC's love interest being fucked by another guy." Its the closest thing that fits as typically in games, this action falls into NTR territory.
Hm. I guess we’re all kinda arguing semantics and personal tastes, stuff we can kick around till the peasant’s kids go off to college. They grow up so fast, don’t they?

Now, the difference in opinions and preferences (and some rather toxic outrage, as I understand) is known by the dev. Just look at how the “critique” on the defunct hunger system nearly immediately killed it, after being implemented.

On the other hand, I’d rather have Tinkerer tell the story he wants to tell and placate the players by whatever bone he might elect to throw at us.

Another, more general thing:
[...] if you became a Patreon and politely asked Tinkerer to offer a switch to pass that one scene he might accept the request, same as he did for Mia and Shakalah
Not so sure about the patreon members (literally) giving their two cents regarding some game issues. Yes, sometimes even the polls are rigged from the start by a creator (i.e. seeding the choices with a dev’s preferred ideas, or really, really weird and stupid ones). But everyone knows of at least one instance, where creativity was stifled by money or where the mob embraced that one bizarre thing (remember “Boaty McBoatface?"). To a slightly lesser extent, Tinkerer shouldn’t even listen to people elsewhere on the interwebs, some who might turn out to be filthy pirates, too.

I'm sorry if I come off as an asshole because I word things strongly.
Don't fret. Better to speak plainly, than to skirt around the issue. (My bad for coming off longwinded and preachy, most of the time, by the way.)
 
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