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As for others who've commented, the reason why I personally use the NTR label so broadly is because there is no other catch all term for "MC's love interest being fucked by another guy." Its the closest thing that fits as typically in games, this action falls into NTR territory. Not always mind you, I have also seen plenty of Devs try to include the Li/other male content while skirting the literal definition of NTR, with statements like "well no, its not NTR because they arnt in a formal relationship with the MC, you can't get mad at NTR because its technically not." Like come on, its the same damn thing, you're putting the scene in the game of another male fucking the Love interest to invoke an emotional response of jealousy from the reader, quit splitting hairs here, that's NTR in everything but name.
Zivah was just doing her sacred duties...i'm not a fan of that but i see the giant being duped into free work
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technically not free, MC was asked for 80 gold donation for a bj...that's almost 2 vaginal sex from Gwyneth, and that's considering that the peasant risked his life to help Zivah...
as of Caleah, according to the lore (Theresa's diary), she doesn't have to perform her sexual duties and can be a simple healer, as long as Caleah has sex with the MC, Zivah shouldn't complain, and judging on how the inkeeper was willing to deposit Alice in there to have her made more chaste, it seems like pilgrims visiting the temple don't ask for that kind of service
 

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how do I get past the part where the player is with Alice trying on the wedding outfit? I am in this part and it is the fourth time that the error occurs, TypeError not detected: it is not possible to read the width of the null property. I am not playing the compressed version.
 
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it seems like pilgrims visiting the temple don't ask for that kind of service
The innkeeper doesn't seem that smart to begin with. Additionally, the MC did not disclose the exact nature of the temple and just advertised it as a convenient and nearby place to stash Alice 'til she pops.

And as I understand it the faith's whole shebang required at least some of the priestessess to service the pilgrims in exchange for donations. Otherwise they would not have to drink infertility potions and we wouldn't have to look for the advanced fertility potion.
Zivah doesn't call the peasant the "High Priest of Quality Control" for nothing.

Other than that, I agree wholeheartedly. Caleah as a lay-priestess and Alice as the resident novice (or postulant?) are probably not necessarily required to sexually pleasure the pilgrims.

how do I get past the part where the player is with Alice trying on the wedding outfit? I am in this part and it is the fourth time that the error occurs, TypeError not detected: it is not possible to read the width of the null property. I am not playing the compressed version.
A similar error came up for me, when my old PC couldn't handle the game. The engine is rather demanding and sometimes my 10+ year old CPU & GPU just want to take a break.
Maybe try the compressed version? You can always switch back. Backup your saves, though. Just to be ...safe.
 
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The innkeeper doesn't seem that smart to begin with. Additionally, the MC did not disclose the exact nature of the temple and just advertised it as a convenient and nearby place to stash Alice 'til she pops.

And as I understand it the faith's whole shebang required at least some of the priestessess to service the pilgrims in exchange for donations. Otherwise they would not have to drink infertility potions and we wouldn't have to look for the advanced fertility potion.
Zivah doesn't call the peasant the "High Priest of Quality Control" for nothing.

Other than that, I agree wholeheartedly. Caleah as a lay-priestess and Alice as the resident novice (or postulant?) are probably not necessarily required to sexually pleasure the pilgrims.


A similar error came up for me, when my old PC couldn't handle the game. The engine is rather demanding and sometimes my 10+ year old CPU & GPU just want to take a break.
Maybe try the compressed version? You can always switch back. Backup your saves, though. Just to be ...save.
thank you very much
 
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Zivah was just doing her sacred duties...i'm not a fan of that but i see the giant being duped into free work

technically not free, MC was asked for 80 gold donation for a bj...that's almost 2 vaginal sex from Gwyneth, and that's considering that the peasant risked his life to help Zivah...
as of Caleah, according to the lore (Theresa's diary), she doesn't have to perform her sexual duties and can be a simple healer, as long as Caleah has sex with the MC, Zivah shouldn't complain, and judging on how the inkeeper was willing to deposit Alice in there to have her made more chaste, it seems like pilgrims visiting the temple don't ask for that kind of service


The threesome was a deal struck with Grug by Ziva so he'll let her use the temple. He is also very polite to the MC if you never fight him so I personally can tolerate him lol, hes not out to steal my girls or make me look bad.

I dont think Caleah would ever have to do anything with Grug because in the qeteshian faith sex is about pleasure (Grug's giant cock would probably kill that lil' elf). And Alice is sent there to become the "perfect wife" meaning she is taught how to be sexually obedient & to please men. Its heavily implied the Rolf doesn't actualy know the details of the Temple, believing it to be a chase & pious place...
 
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Wouldn’t it be fun to learn this entire issue is exactly what caused the rift between Qetesh and Nergal in the first place?

“What thou eff, my celestial consort! Why are thou priestesses fucking around with random pilgrims? …I mean, really! I’m good with the occasional woman joining us for a threesome or watching you “bless” some horny high priestess. But this sharing of ordained females with commoners goes too far!”

And Qetesh be like: “Nergal, honey, sweety-pie: Qetesh is the goddess of ecstasy and sexual pleasure. And she never ever complains when YOU shoot your divine seed up some dark elf slut’s sacred pipes. She even thinks it is kind of hot."

Yes, Qetech talks about herself in the third person. It’s a holy trinity threesome thing.
 

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Wouldn’t it be fun to learn this entire issue is exactly what caused the rift between Qetesh and Nergal in the first place?

“What thou eff, my celestial consort! Why are thou priestesses fucking around with random pilgrims? …I mean, really! I’m good with the occasional woman joining us for a threesome or watching you “bless” some horny high priestess. But this sharing of ordained females with commoners goes too far!”

And Qetesh be like: “Nergal, honey, sweety-pie: Qetesh is the goddess of ecstasy and sexual pleasure. And she never ever complains when YOU shoot your divine seed up some dark elf slut’s sacred pipes. She even thinks it is kind of hot."

Yes, Qetech talks about herself in the third person. It’s a holy trinity threesome thing.

That would be funny but Ziva said that they had a fall out when Nergal found Qetesh in the arms of a mortal man. His goddess GF cheated on him with a MORTAL... for a god who rules over the demonic hordes that's gotta be a huge kick to the ego.

Also I can't be the only one that wants to bang Qetesh by the end of the game... I feel like that's the ultimate goal here.
 

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A similar error came up for me, when my old PC couldn't handle the game. The engine is rather demanding and sometimes my 10+ year old CPU & GPU just want to take a break.
Maybe try the compressed version? You can always switch back. Backup your saves, though. Just to be ...safe.
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well tinkener didnt have story with caleah and grug.So they are just thoughts of some very kinky cuckold users-players of the game.
 
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To a slightly lesser extent, Tinkerer shouldn’t even listen to people elsewhere on the interwebs, some who might turn out to be filthy pirates, too.
fun fact: one of the mods in Tinkerer's discord is a filthy pirate, an Tinkerer is keen to suggestions when they aren't demanding and entitled
Wouldn’t it be fun to learn this entire issue is exactly what caused the rift between Qetesh and Nergal in the first place?

“What thou eff, my celestial consort! Why are thou priestesses fucking around with random pilgrims? …I mean, really! I’m good with the occasional woman joining us for a threesome or watching you “bless” some horny high priestess. But this sharing of ordained females with commoners goes too far!”

And Qetesh be like: “Nergal, honey, sweety-pie: Qetesh is the goddess of ecstasy and sexual pleasure. And she never ever complains when YOU shoot your divine seed up some dark elf slut’s sacred pipes. She even thinks it is kind of hot."

Yes, Qetech talks about herself in the third person. It’s a holy trinity threesome thing.
That would be funny but Ziva said that they had a fall out when Nergal found Qetesh in the arms of a mortal man. Her goddess GF cheated on her with a MORTAL... for a god who rules over the demonic hordes that's gotta be a huge kick to the ego.

Also I can't be the only one that wants to bang Qetesh by the end of the game... I feel like that's the ultimate goal here.
don't you find it interesting that Nergal's curse befell the priestesses of Quetesh on MC's birthday? what if Quetesh is MC's mother?
and sorry for the correction of the pronoun but according to Tinkerer Nergal is not entirely male...

well tinkener didnt have story with caleah and grug.So they are just thoughts of some very kinky cuckold users-players of the game.
I think Caleah used her NTR limit when she stabbed the orc in the head.
 
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fun fact: one of the mods in Tinkerer's discord is a filthy pirate, an Tinkerer is keen to suggestions when they aren't demanding and entitled


don't you find it interesting that Nergal's curse befell the priestesses of Quetesh on MC's birthday? what if Quetesh is MC's mother?
and sorry for the correction of the pronoun but according to Tinkerer Nergal is not entirely male...


I think Caleah used her NTR limit when she stabbed the orc in the head.
hhhmmmm mc mother??? good thought
 

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When you dedicate Zivahs temple, the MC is forced to have threesome with her and Grug.

As for others who've commented, the reason why I personally use the NTR label so broadly is because there is no other catch all term for "MC's love interest being fucked by another guy." Its the closest thing that fits as typically in games, this action falls into NTR territory. Not always mind you, I have also seen plenty of Devs try to include the Li/other male content while skirting the literal definition of NTR, with statements like "well no, its not NTR because they arnt in a formal relationship with the MC, you can't get mad at NTR because its technically not." Like come on, its the same damn thing, you're putting the scene in the game of another male fucking the Love interest to invoke an emotional response of jealousy from the reader, quit splitting hairs here, that's NTR in everything but name.

I'm not a fan of sharing love interests with other guys. Whether it is sharing, swinging, group sex, or straight up NTR. I just don't get why he'd Tinkerer wouldn't include a choice to avoid that scene like he did with Shakala and the goblins or Mia and the werewolf? This game would be fine if he just included a choice like he did with the others.

I'm sorry if I come off as an asshole because I word things strongly. At the end of the day, its just a game and I myself skipped past it as quickly as possible and moved on to fucking up the country side with the succubus daughter. I just have a strong dislike for that type of content when it's forced on me. I'm all for people liking what they like, so long as I don't have to deal with it.

Edit: Quick aside, I personally dont care if it makes canonical sense for a female character to cheat or sleep around, or have other lovers, ect. I'm just a territorial asshole who wants all the woman for himself. I hate sharing and no amount of rationalizing will get me to be okay with it. Hell, I'd happily murder every other male character in the game just to make sure there was no competition if given the option, friend or foe, story be damned. In the case of Zivah, I get she's a sacred prostitute, her religion is all about spreading free love to everyone. I just don't want to share so I personally would prefer to be able to just ignore her completely now she's proven she's fucking other guys. I'd also prefer to be able to get Calithe(sp), the young swamp elf we rescued, the hell out of that temple before she's forced to whore herself out. Set Cailthe up in one of the MC's many home bases. perhaps pair her up with our High elf lover near the well. I know it wont happen and both her and Zivah will be taking giant dick left and right when the MC is away, but she's a super cute character so I hold out the tiniest of hopes.
Well, the term for things like that are traditionally "sharing" and "group sex", especially if the people aren't romantically involved like Zivah and the MC. Also I don't know how long you've been active on the forum but the reason why people who complain about NTR get shouted down is because people who don't like it used to take over threads and just turn them into off topic bitching about NTR, so much so that they had to change the forum rules on derailments/kink shaming, and the mods would have to delete whole pages of crap so games could actually be discussed, so personally I get a bit testy whenever I see people complain about NTR, whether the traditional definition or otherwise, especially if it's clearly a part of the game's story. I was always neutral on NTR before I joined this forum but frankly the vitriol I've seen here has made me defend it a ton more than I ever imagined I would. So while you weren't being an asshole I just get worked up whenever I see people start complaining about NTR and try to say something before other people chime in about how much they hate it and start a derailment.
 

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Well, the term for things like that are traditionally "sharing" and "group sex", especially if the people aren't romantically involved like Zivah and the MC. Also I don't know how long you've been active on the forum but the reason why people who complain about NTR get shouted down is because people who don't like it used to take over threads and just turn them into off topic bitching about NTR, so much so that they had to change the forum rules on derailments/kink shaming, and the mods would have to delete whole pages of crap so games could actually be discussed, so personally I get a bit testy whenever I see people complain about NTR, whether the traditional definition or otherwise, especially if it's clearly a part of the game's story. I was always neutral on NTR before I joined this forum but frankly the vitriol I've seen here has made me defend it a ton more than I ever imagined I would. So while you weren't being an asshole I just get worked up whenever I see people start complaining about NTR and try to say something before other people chime in about how much they hate it and start a derailment.
Please stop the political conversations.We will enjoy our likings in the game.Tinkener is a little neatrual in politics as i see it.
 
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Zivah was just doing her sacred duties...i'm not a fan of that but i see the giant being duped into free work

technically not free, MC was asked for 80 gold donation for a bj...that's almost 2 vaginal sex from Gwyneth, and that's considering that the peasant risked his life to help Zivah...
as of Caleah, according to the lore (Theresa's diary), she doesn't have to perform her sexual duties and can be a simple healer, as long as Caleah has sex with the MC, Zivah shouldn't complain, and judging on how the inkeeper was willing to deposit Alice in there to have her made more chaste, it seems like pilgrims visiting the temple don't ask for that kind of service
To be fair her dad has no idea what's Zivah's religion is participating... otherwise he wouldn't have agreed.
He was under the impression that all religions have virgin lay sisters and nuns... teh MC didn't elaborate that to him.
And I doubt there are any Pilgrims.... Zivahs religion was believed to have been anihilated dureing the Goblin wars as the tempels that had not been plundered and burned, the priestesses had been cursed.
Wouldn’t it be fun to learn this entire issue is exactly what caused the rift between Qetesh and Nergal in the first place?

“What thou eff, my celestial consort! Why are thou priestesses fucking around with random pilgrims? …I mean, really! I’m good with the occasional woman joining us for a threesome or watching you “bless” some horny high priestess. But this sharing of ordained females with commoners goes too far!”

And Qetesh be like: “Nergal, honey, sweety-pie: Qetesh is the goddess of ecstasy and sexual pleasure. And she never ever complains when YOU shoot your divine seed up some dark elf slut’s sacred pipes. She even thinks it is kind of hot."

Yes, Qetech talks about herself in the third person. It’s a holy trinity threesome thing.
Well... we already know that Quetesh used to walk among her followers to hold very private and hands on sermons... which got Nergal up on his War horse.
He is someone that can't stand NTR either... and in the case of Quetesh I'd be inclined to actually call it that way
don't you find it interesting that Nergal's curse befell the priestesses of Quetesh on MC's birthday? what if Quetesh is MC's mother?
and sorry for the correction of the pronoun but according to Tinkerer Nergal is not entirely male...
Nergal blessed the MC when he was lying down to die from a fever when he was a kid... I doubt he would have done that if he was the illegit child of Quetesh and a man
 

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Nergal blessed the MC when he was lying down to die from a fever when he was a kid... I doubt he would have done that if he was the illegit child of Quetesh and a man

Where abouts did it mention about MC dieing of fever??? Just asking because I have replayed this game SO MANY TIMES because of lost saves. Never once have I heard anyone mention the MC was dying when Nergal blessed him as his chosen???

Not trying to dispute genuinely asking where I missed that tib bit of info???
 

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don't you find it interesting that Nergal's curse befell the priestesses of Quetesh on MC's birthday? what if Quetesh is MC's mother?
and sorry for the correction of the pronoun but according to Tinkerer Nergal is not entirely male...


I think Caleah used her NTR limit when she stabbed the orc in the head.
I mean according to Ziva, Qetesh put in a loophole for the curse that ANY man born the day of the curse could help lift the curse as long as they didn't know about said cure during the sex ritual (geuss it makes sense u might risk banging a hag if she MIGHT be a drop dead gorgeous woman) so as cool as that sounds I'm not sure if that is 100% the case. Good theory tho.

Also with Caleah that was a *forced* encounter, she was not willing with the orc so I wouldn't say it was NTR because she was more then happy to kill that f****
 

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So you say Gabriel is beside the Temple outside, Nope, no Gabriel, he said: Come to the Village if you need Skill, so i searched every House, every Zone i have now, Not a Single Trace of him.
Uhm, how long needs Frida, to finaly give birth to our Child, is she endless Pregnant?
And about Alice, as i had Sex with her, one Day after, she dissapeared in the Cellar and since that i never ever saw her qagain??? Weird no?
Thx Guys
 
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