RPGM Peasant's Quest [v3.62] [Tinkerer]

[DomWolf]

Um Actually you just fell for movie fan fiction smh. While we don’t see them Tolkien confirmed Orcs have males and females just like the other sentient races of Arda. Never forget Saruman created an entirely new half orc race through breeding in the books

I was somewhat aware that Orcs coming from the earth was a choice for the film (or something like that) cos theirs no confirmed females in the book (as far as I'm aware). I read the books when I was younger & im rusty on it, i prefer watching the films lol.

But thanks for the updated info.

 

[DomWolf]

Maghda looks nothing like a human.

That's bullshit. Maghda looks like a tall, fat woman with an ugly-cute face & tusks. Heck Dolk looks like a big, muscular bald man with tusks. Youre definitions are causing me a headache dude.

 

[Muv-Luv-Meiya-Canon]

What to do if the game doesn't progress further, I have 3 quests I can't get past:
1)Getting past my grandmother (need to look like a gifted wolf to Mia, Ziva has to give a potion for this, but she offers nothing but wanking)
2)Time with Magda (need to learn how to set traps, no one in the tavern helps with this)
3)Prove your trustworthiness (you need to gain Beth's trust by getting Gabriel back on the right track)
In addition, I have no quest company Ziva is silent, Erevi is pregnant and there are prisoners in the dungeon, but she does not give a quest to kill rats, I have already cleaned the entire map with bosses and all communicated with everyone, the result is 0 (I have the game is not in English, so in the names of the quests could be wrong sorry).

 

[FunFuntomes]

Getting past my grandmother (need to look like a gifted wolf to Mia, Ziva has to give a potion for this, but she offers nothing but wanking)

talk to frida

)Time with Magda (need to learn how to set traps, no one in the tavern helps with this)

you'll meet caleah when helping ziva

Erevi is pregnant and there are prisoners in the dungeon, but she does not give a quest to kill rats, I have already cleaned the entire map with bosses and all communicated with everyone, the result is 0 (I have the game is not in English, so in the names of the quests could be wrong sorry).

you need to sacrifice more

 

[Muv-Luv-Meiya-Canon]

talk to frida

you'll meet caleah when helping ziva

you need to sacrifice more

I talk to her and she doesn't give me anything, after I gave the wolf cub to Mia, the only thing I can do to her is make her pregnant.
How am I supposed to help Ziva if she doesn't ask for anything?

 

[storm1051787]

That's bullshit. Maghda looks like a tall, fat woman with an ugly-cute face & tusks. Heck Dolk looks like a big, muscular bald man with tusks. Youre definitions are causing me a headache dude.

Maghda is a literal giant with giant ears, tusks, an inhumansized nose, a bloated belly and pointy teeth. Saying she looks like a normal human is just bad faith.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

Maghda is a literal giant with giant ears, tusks, an inhumansized nose, a bloated belly and pointy teeth. Saying she looks like a normal human is just bad faith.

Well, you just described my mother-in-law exactly. And my wife keeps telling me that she's really human.

 

[storm1051787]

literally the first google search result for orc..very human very demure
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Meanwhile fhe first result for female orc looks like this.






Again another bad faith argument. You and I both know there are tons of orcs that look like normal humans. This is literally the third example. Nearly every example I can find is just like this one.

 

[FunFuntomes]

Maghda is a literal gian

giant ears

a bloated belly and pointy teeth.

still all human traits since you excluded ears as enough to qualfy as monster girl

Meanwhile fhe first result for female orc looks like this.


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Again another bad faith argument. You and I both know there are tons of orcs that look like normal humans. This is literally the third example. Nearly every example I can find is just like this one.

once again.. not human with an anatomy not typical of most humans

 

[storm1051787]

still all human traits since you excluded ears as enough to qualfy as monster girl

once again.. not human with an anatomy not typical of most humans

I never exluded any traits at all. I said ears werent enough just like I said skin color wasn't enoough, and being a giant wasn't enough. Changing like one thing isn't really enough and you need something more to make themstand out. That's why I said Everi's daughter wasn't one, but Naamah was. Maghda is a giantess with green skin enormous ears that are larger than any orc. It is an insanely bad faith argument to say she looks the same as all the female orcs posted so far. And it's veryclear your argument is based on the fact that you consider orcs to be monsters when I already said that's not what a monster girl is.

once again.. not human with an anatomy not typical of most humans

And that picture looks exactly like a human with tusks same with the other 2 female orc pictures. You're being ridiculous. If you honestly think that doesn't look like a human you're blind.

 

[FunFuntomes]

never exluded any traits at all. I said ears werent enough just like I said skin color wasn't enoough, and being a giant wasn't enough. Changing like one thing isn't really enoug

by their powers combined comes captain planet a monster girl

your argument is based on the fact that you consider orcs to be monsters when I already said that's not what a monster girl is.

your "star trek is just palette swapped humans" has one fallacy, the writers of Star trek were hippies so they created an universe where all species got along to a degree and despite having evolved on different planets, had almost identical societies..
when we decide if someone is a monster girl we have to look at the whole picture:
1) do they have inhuman physical characteristics?
2) do they pose a threat to humans on an individal level?
3) does their society differ much from humans if they have one?
4) how did they become what they are? was it evolution or a supernatural intervention?

 

[storm1051787]

by their powers combined comes captain planet a monster girl

Yeah I literally said that earlier. It's a visual que, adding more and more inhuman traits is obviously going to make someone a monstergirl as aside to just having horns or just having a tail.

your "star trek is just palette swapped humans" has one fallacy, the writers of Star trek were hippies so they created an universe where all species got along to a degree and despite having evolved on different planets, had almost identical societies..
when we decide if someone is a monster girl we have to look at the whole picture:
1) do they have inhuman physical characteristics?
2) do they pose a threat to humans on an individal level?
3) does their society differ much from humans if they have one?
4) how did they become what they are? was it evolution or a supernatural intervention?

I didn't even just say pallet swap, I even mentioned earlier in the conversation about the star trek aliens that are just humans with a different frehead. If they pose a "threat" to humans isn't relevant to someone being a mnster girl at all, neither does their society and I've said that multiple times already just like what species they are doesn't matter. Monster girl is literally JUST a visual description and nothing more. An eldritch monster in human form is not a monster girl. A werewolf in human form is not a monter girl, a vampire is not a monster girl. Alexstrasza from wow isn't a monster girl, but Vixenatrix is despite both being dragons because the later is VISIBLY more inhuman than the other.



You're super hung up on the idea that it's the species that makes it a monster girl when Ive already explain that's not what it means. It's about girls who look monsterous, not about how they act, their evolution or anything else. They could literally be an entire society of cannibals and that wouldn't make them a monster girl. It is just a visual indicator and NOTHING else.



Do you think this looks like a human? If yes it's not a monster girl, if no than it is? Where each person draws the line is based on their opinion but that doesn't change the fact the term is purely about appearance

 

[Pdoan]

What to do if the game doesn't progress further, I have 3 quests I can't get past:
1)Getting past my grandmother (need to look like a gifted wolf to Mia, Ziva has to give a potion for this, but she offers nothing but wanking)
2)Time with Magda (need to learn how to set traps, no one in the tavern helps with this)
3)Prove your trustworthiness (you need to gain Beth's trust by getting Gabriel back on the right track)
In addition, I have no quest company Ziva is silent, Erevi is pregnant and there are prisoners in the dungeon, but she does not give a quest to kill rats, I have already cleaned the entire map with bosses and all communicated with everyone, the result is 0 (I have the game is not in English, so in the names of the quests could be wrong sorry).

Don't confuse Erevi (Tower of Dread) and Ziva (Temple of Qetesh). They are the main charaters on the opposite side of the main quest.

1. Get Past Granny would require a shape-shifting spell. This is from Erevi. You will not get this until after Erevi gave birth. Before that, you should do "The Lord Work". Sacrifice (6-7 times to unlock all scenes) until Erevi is pregnant. If she already got pregnant, she should give "Rat Infestation" if you ask for sex.

Asking Beth out on date would trigger "learn the spell", then go back to the Tower talk with Erevi. If Beth is not ready to date (low affection), help her out and do the Temple quest until you get Gabriel to guard the Temple (#3 below).

2. You need to do quest for Ziva (The Temple of Qetesh) until you get Celeah to the Temple. Ask Caleah about setting trap.

3. "Restore the Temple", you need to talk to the mayor about sending guard. Then go talk to Gabriel in the inn. After he ran away, go find him in Goblin Forest (East of Weirdwood).

 

[FunFuntomes]

An eldritch monster in human form is not a monster girl.

if t has female traits then it is

A werewolf in human form is not a monter girl,

a werewolf in human form is still a moster, if it's a woman and when transformed it reteins female sexual traits it's a monster girl

vampire is not a monster girl.

that's whar mimicry is all about; a predator looking as close as possible to it's prey

You're super hung up on the idea that it's the species that makes it a monster girl when Ive already explain that's not what it means. It's about girls who look monsterous, not about how they act, their evolution or anything else. They could literally be an entire society of cannibals and that wouldn't make them a monster girl. It is just a visual indicator and NOTHING else.

are the cannibals human? if so that's a strawman argument on your part

 

[FunFuntomes]

storm1051787 also here's the definition:
A monster girl is a fictional trope of a girl or young woman who is or shares visual traits with a monster. ... such incarnations often have the woman hide her monstrous traits to deceive others. More recent works of media often depict monster girls neutrally, as merely another race of people, or positively, with their monstrous traits being a type of superpower they use to help others.

 

[storm1051787]

storm1051787 also here's the definition:
A monster girl is a fictional trope of a girl or young woman who is or shares visual traits with a monster. ... such incarnations often have the woman hide her monstrous traits to deceive others. More recent works of media often depict monster girls neutrally, as merely another race of people, or positively, with their monstrous traits being a type of superpower they use to help others.

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It's not about how they act and it has nothing to do with "mimicry" it's abouttheir apperance and not anything else. A monster in human form is not a monster girl. A werewolf in human form is not a monster girl. Both examples are the same as humans.

 

[FunFuntomes]

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get the fuck outa here with this weeb shit! if tinkerer adds a female orc it won't be a pigwoman but a female of the currently existing orcs

It's not about how they act and it has nothing to do with "mimicry"

those are traits that define what's a monster..
"A monster is a type of imaginary creature found in fiction, folklore, mythology and religion. They are very often depicted as dangerous and aggressive, with a strange or grotesque appearance that causes terror and fear, often in humans. Monsters usually resemble bizarre, deformed, otherworldly and/or mutated animals or entirely unique creatures of varying sizes, but may also take a human form, such as mutants, ghosts, spirits, zombies, or cannibals, among other things. They may or may not have supernatural powers, but are usually capable of killing or causing some form of destruction, threatening the social or moral order of the human world in the process."

 

[PhineasFlynn]

I've been holding it in since yesterday, but I just can't help it anymore

 

[storm1051787]

storm1051787 also here's the definition:
A monster girl is a fictional trope of a girl or young woman who is or shares visual traits with a monster. ... such incarnations often have the woman hide her monstrous traits to deceive others. More recent works of media often depict monster girls neutrally, as merely another race of people, or positively, with their monstrous traits being a type of superpower they use to help others.

Your definition literally agrees with me. It highlights that it's about visual apperance, meanwhile having them hide their visual apperance is described as a trope that often involves their role in the story. It's not saying that what makes them a monster girl. It's just saying that's how they're typically introduced to the story.

 

[storm1051787]

get the fuck outa here with this weeb shit! if tinkerer adds a female orc it won't be a pigwoman but a female of the currently existing orcs

those are traits that define what's a monster

Yeah and all the female orcs I've posted look human and is how theylook in these type of games 99% of the time. It's you who is faceblind and think theydont. It's not about behavior it's about apperance.