oldatoz

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I'll take this opportunity to ask if you guys plan to add content for those of us who are not related to RM in our game. If I'm not mistaken, a couple of updates ago you guys added content with other RM girls, but I couldn't see that content because I have nothing to do with the club and I feel like I missed out on content. I saw it in a PH gameplay. lol but I don't know for sure. Am I wrong?
The Red Maiden is central to the "main story", so all girls will somehow be influenced by what is happening there. Not all girls will have a route where they end up in the Red Maiden. For starters, not all girls will have two routes, either. As for adding content for people not involved with the RM (if you don't bring anyone there, for example, and avoid the place like the plague) that is definitely happening. Even when it comes to the ending of the game, all of this will definitely matter, so more romantic and vanilla stuff is coming, no worries.

Or know if the romance routes will have less sexual content or less "side missions" either with main girls or secondary girls.
This depends a lot on the girl. We try to keep the side-stuff from the romantic routes, but as a harem game it is just natural that there are little moments with multiple girls, for example. Like I said, it heavily depends on the girl. Lina is just A-okay with kissing random girls with you at the bus or whatever, but Jen is not wound like that.

Regardless, more romantic stuff is coming, that's all I can say at this point.

Also Yes Moochi did say after people complained that in the next update after finding Rachel in there you would be able to get her out and that didn't happen... That was over a year and a half ago now and look at that she is still in the damn place... No kid with a part time job could afford to pay a whore house enough to keep a girl only to himself. That's some serious porn logic to think that's even remotely realistic.
I understand your concern, but at this point we don't talk about it much because, as you've said, the discussion when it comes to Rachel has been going for a long-ass time. Her stupid decision to go to work at the Red Maiden was a mix of a serious lapse of judgement and her natural stubbornness. You can think that's believable or not, but I think we have a good amount of leeway in that area when it comes to porn games, haha.

As for her "still being in the Red Maiden", it may sound like we are making excuses, but this is a game in development. We couldn't outright remove her from it in a half-baked way just to assuage your feelings about the fact that she was there in the first place. Our last update to Rachel's main story started the "get her out" part if you choose the romantic route. She is only "stuck there" because of the limbo between patches. When it comes to the story it was such a short time in which everything happened between her and the MC that part of these complaints really make no sense. In-game you are not expected to spend years going to the RM and "keeping Rachel to yourself", you're supposed to have her just for you for something like a few weeks (at most) while you're training her, and then she would become a full-fledged prostitute. So the romantic storyline involves getting her out of the place before this training concludes.

The sandbox nature of the game means there is all sorts of weirdness because of event triggering. You can make plans with Monica for a date on the weekend and play months in-game without even seeing her again before deciding to go on the damn date. And she is okay with you fucking off for weeks? Of course not! That's because there's just no way to control these things. If you spend 400 days visiting the Red Maiden and repeating Rachel's sex scenes there, it doesn't mean she spent 13 months working exclusively for you. You just "gamed" it. It's like climbing a mountain by walking in a diagonal in Skyrim. It's just what it is.

And when it comes to the Red Maiden in general, we have said so before, but there are circumstances we can't discuss (because they would be spoilers) that will help explain all of this perceived nonsense. Any player that spent a little bit at the RM knows that there is something weird going on with Sakura, or that a lot the business and politics in the peninsula always comes back to that place. If you are investigating with Kira she is already trying to form some sort of theory, and even if you don't play the Red Maiden at all (because you are focusing on the romantic paths) you will find out just what is going on and what you can do about it.
 

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LOL I though that the rm route with Rachel would end with the MC revealing himself and keeping her as his personal slut not as a prostitute guess I was wrong there then
 

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And when it comes to the Red Maiden in general, we have said so before, but there are circumstances we can't discuss (because they would be spoilers) that will help explain all of this perceived nonsense. Any player that spent a little bit at the RM knows that there is something weird going on with Sakura, or that a lot the business and politics in the peninsula always comes back to that place. If you are investigating with Kira she is already trying to form some sort of theory, and even if you don't play the Red Maiden at all (because you are focusing on the romantic paths) you will find out just what is going on and what you can do about it.
When you go on with that plot, please add an alternative to earn Sakura's trust other than sending girls there. Isn't being a good reliable customer with benefits not good enough?
 
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LOL I though that the rm route with Rachel would end with the MC revealing himself and keeping her as his personal slut not as a prostitute guess I was wrong there then
The RM route will indeed end with her as your personal slut, but there are way more spoilers when it comes to that, so I'm not going to even try to defend how "realistic" that is xD
 
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I think the question the user is asking is more like what can our MC do after school (meaning in the evening) or something. The post is not so clear (possibly due to a language barrier), but I do not think that his MC was thrown out of school, I think that was a game over scenario if that happened?
Yes I cant go back to school x))) so sad is my game dead ? does someone have a save before meeting the productor at school for evelyn pornostar route ?
 

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When you go on with that plot, please add an alternative to earn Sakura's trust other than sending girls there. Isn't being a good reliable customer with benefits not good enough?
you can change the variable in the console if it's so important to you and just watch these scenes.
I doubt moochie plans to add an alternative way to get trust.

Just type it in the console and go to the PM.
$ mc_rm_success += 1
 

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Yes I cant go back to school x))) so sad is my game dead ? does someone have a save before meeting the productor at school for evelyn pornostar route ?
As far as I remember, Monica calls every day and warns you that you're going to be kicked out.

You can change the variable in the console

$ school_success = 50
 

randomguy6516265165

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The RM route will indeed end with her as your personal slut, but there are way more spoilers when it comes to that, so I'm not going to even try to defend how "realistic" that is xD
you know if theres an option inside that route thats like "keep her ONLY for yourself" and one thats ""share" her with other guys" its fine then but I cant just dont play that route and problem solved xD
 

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Thank you so much for the clarifications.
We did somewhat hinted at them, yet we did manage at some point or the other
to get stuck in one route and just go for another, then get stuck there and go for another.

Then it got frustrating when we were stuck with eve, or stuck with dad and all his conquests,
while seeing the showrunners keep blackmailing MC for the money of his camera,
or for the girls he has to keep supplying them.

There are certain circumstances that do bring anxiety and bad feels whenever we get stuck in the game,
so we rage quit and while trying to make sense of it and wrap our minds around it,
we come here and we over analize the plot and pur our neausea into the thread.

IT all comes from wanting to game further into this game, but getting lost in various paths.

All these clarifications are awesome because they bring purpose back into trying to figure this game out.
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I definitely agree. And while you are right that we focus on our patrons (as we obviously should), we still at the very least check what you guys say here too sometimes . It's frustrating to see how some people choose to voice their worries, but I have a thick skin at this point. It may take a while to find the constructive criticism in the middle of the bickering, but every update or so I do try to get people to voice what they think about certain decisions.

That being said, it's really awkward having to read exaggerations or misconstrued intent on certain scenes or story developments when we KNOW why we are doing what we are doing. People think there's this huge conspiracy to add NTR to the game. Or that we just plain don't like certain characters because it's been a while since they've had content. I mean, just look a few posts before this one to see yet another discussion about how we "lied" when saying there was going to be a way to take Rachel out of the RM just because there hasn't been a full continuation to her story yet. Meanwhile Rachel is constantly on polls for our patrons to decide who should be the focus of the next update, and yet she hasn't won them so far.
Polls on what to add and which characters to focus on are a bad idea. I understand wanting to go along with your Patrons, but it has an unintended consequence. let's say Rachel as an example loses on a poll, fair enough you might say, we'll get to get eventually. The fans of hers that did exist, well they can wait a few months, fair is fair... right?

But as time goes on, people waiting for Rachel (or anyone else who isn't winning) content get more and more frustrated as she has gotten nothing for what feels like 2 years at this point. She what, slept with the MC in his sleep, and that was it, nothing since, if I recall. So they drop the game, maybe coming back later if the stuff they want is added later, but probably not. Fiona, one of the top 5 has practically nothing either. Yet we have had entire updates with new characters who have next to nothing to do with the story thus far.

And that's, entire updates have nothing in interest to fairly large swathes of the community. Every time I see that there is stuff added to the dark paths, I sigh. Not even because I dislike content like that. I don't, I quite like it. But a replay can take, and this is being generous, 10 hours to grind yourself back up while holding ctrl. And that is after having to resart the entire game once already dye to save issues. It's tiring. Quite a shame, too as I was 100% in love with this game when I first played it, back when Lina was the only relatively finished route, and while there has been nice things here and there, I just don't feel like there is much of a direction in the game anymore.

It's why I dropped the title after being a Patron for over a year, and come here to check out what is new when I see a new update. Lately I sigh, and make a note to check back in three months when something new might finally be out.

PS: There absolutely needs to be another way to get in good with Sakura, either spending money or doing some other favor for her. It would make sense too, as even in the good routes, you need information on RM, and several of the stories send you there, but it just STOPS unless you have sold off women to them.
 

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Walktrough is more advanced than actual update? Whatever career I chose for Evelyn I need to talk to Queen and when I try,it says "in progress"
P.S. Ignore it. I missed the step. Sry about trouble...
 
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Polls on what to add and which characters to focus on are a bad idea.
The problems you mention definitely happen, and it's why we slowly fade characters out of polls if someone needs more content. For example, this last poll was between Grace and Rachel I believe, arguably the two main characters that need the most content right now. (Skylar is more complicated, Moochie wants to upgrade her computer before rendering Skylar's main story.)

PS: There absolutely needs to be another way to get in good with Sakura, either spending money or doing some other favor for her. It would make sense too, as even in the good routes, you need information on RM, and several of the stories send you there, but it just STOPS unless you have sold off women to them.
There will be a different way of dealing with the Red Maiden without sending girls there in the future. The reason it stops right now, again, comes back to how we are still developing the game. And when it comes time to update the "good paths" we believe it's more important to add the romantic stuff rather than go headfirst into the RM. People that chose the love route with Monica would rather see more lovey-dovey content with her, like dates, more sex scenes, helping her with her problems and home life, rather than the beginning of a quest that will reveal more about the Red Maiden. We will, of course, eventually have the story connect there, but you can expect that first with the characters that are already involved, such as Rachel and Kira.
 

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Polls on what to add and which characters to focus on are a bad idea. I understand wanting to go along with your Patrons, but it has an unintended consequence. let's say Rachel as an example loses on a poll, fair enough you might say, we'll get to get eventually. The fans of hers that did exist, well they can wait a few months, fair is fair... right?

But as time goes on, people waiting for Rachel (or anyone else who isn't winning) content get more and more frustrated as she has gotten nothing for what feels like 2 years at this point. She what, slept with the MC in his sleep, and that was it, nothing since, if I recall. So they drop the game, maybe coming back later if the stuff they want is added later, but probably not. Fiona, one of the top 5 has practically nothing either. Yet we have had entire updates with new characters who have next to nothing to do with the story thus far.

And that's, entire updates have nothing in interest to fairly large swathes of the community. Every time I see that there is stuff added to the dark paths, I sigh. Not even because I dislike content like that. I don't, I quite like it. But a replay can take, and this is being generous, 10 hours to grind yourself back up while holding ctrl. And that is after having to resart the entire game once already dye to save issues. It's tiring. Quite a shame, too as I was 100% in love with this game when I first played it, back when Lina was the only relatively finished route, and while there has been nice things here and there, I just don't feel like there is much of a direction in the game anymore.

It's why I dropped the title after being a Patron for over a year, and come here to check out what is new when I see a new update. Lately I sigh, and make a note to check back in three months when something new might finally be out.

PS: There absolutely needs to be another way to get in good with Sakura, either spending money or doing some other favor for her. It would make sense too, as even in the good routes, you need information on RM, and several of the stories send you there, but it just STOPS unless you have sold off women to them.
I guess the pool thing could be fixed if they excluded that character that got choosed on the next poll like X girl won this pool she will be out until the other girls have been updated and then a new pool will all the characters again will be made so it doesnt happen that a girl that has less fans gets nothing while a girl that has lots of fans gets all the love most of the time thats the only way I think it would be "fair" for all the girls to be updated equally but Im just a random giving my opinion.
 
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So the red maiden is going to be addressed more if you went the pornstar route? Or the more corrupt path
Generally, there will be more content inside the Red Maiden if you choose the corruption routes. But that isn't true for everyone. Fiona and Jen, for example, have the same developments planned when it comes to the RM, regardless of the route.

But even in non-corruption routes, the Red Maiden will eventually be adressed, most likely when the story is reaching its conclusion.
 

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:unsure: It then seems like if your not in the corruption routes it's better to put the game on-hold because that's only getting done later, noted.
 
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:unsure: It then seems like if your not in the corruption routes it's better to put the game on-hold because that's only getting done later, noted.
I don't think you guys are quite understanding what I'm saying lol.
The non-corruption routes get the same amount of content at the same speed as the corruption ones. The question was whether there would be stuff about the RM soon in the non-corruption routes. But I said the non-corruption routes focus more on non-RM stuff... so for THAT, it will take a while.
 

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I don't think you guys are quite understanding what I'm saying lol.
The non-corruption routes get the same amount of content at the same speed as the corruption ones. The question was whether there would be stuff about the RM soon in the non-corruption routes. But I said the non-corruption routes focus more on non-RM stuff... so for THAT, it will take a while.
So we get the same amount of scenes in both routes, but the main story that needs RM will take longer to come out in the non-corruption routes, I think I get it. Btw I usually see both routes so doesn't really affect me the same way has the people who only play one of them.
 
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