Nemo56

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you clearly haven't been here since the first lauch because people did cry, if it bothers you so much i can go and remove the whole scene for you if it makes you feel better... this is literally the choice for these types of scenes you either get a repeatable scene or you get none at all, pick? which do you prefer a repeatable scene or a "nothing to show until later version" text? its literally only there as a place holder and for the player to see something over nothing


you guys keep saying "bug" a bug is something the developer didn't intent, the repeatable scenes were intented to play this way rather you agree with it or not is irrelevant, its the devs game not yours, you either accept that and play or find a new game that suits what your looking for, theres literally 100s on this site to pick from.


or edit the file "loc3_rach_room" line: 164 and change it yourself

the dev has more important things to work on then a few people complaining about a repeatable scene that works as intented and has nothihng to do with the story elements of the game. even AAA games don't change the way repeatable scenes or repeatable quests/missions work
"has nothihng to do with the story elements of the game" ... that's exactly the problem. It contains information that is inconsistent with the events of the game. After a certain event the information would have to change. As an alternative the scene could be removed. It's not important anyway and there are others for the same action that don't contain inconsistent information.
If he didn't intend to let the player chose in what order to play the events, he probably would have made a VN like everyone else. But he did.
I accept that he doesn't fix the bug, no worries. He doesn't want to, fine by me. I was just surprised that someone would defend a minor mistake like this one. I have seen by far worse bugs, some caused by me and sometimes costing a lot of money. But that's what insurances are for :)
 
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OleJackRipper

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depending on your choices sky is limit. doubt you want spoilers.
Newbie here.
just want spoilers on what the rape tag is about. Is it one of those things most of us will pass as a grey area or is this a full on rape/ the mc raping someone?
 

seronis

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this is literally the choice for these types of scenes you either get a repeatable scene or you get none at all, pick? which do you prefer a repeatable scene or a "nothing to show until later version" text? its literally only there as a place holder and for the player to see something over nothing
Sorry but you are talking out of complete ignorance. That is NOT how it is. It is TRIVIALLY easy to make the scene both repeatable AND have it change based on current conditions. Code wise it is elementary school level programming. Its just logic branches to look at a value and proc dialog based on that value (which would be flags such as if this is the first time the scene was seen, which characters might still be virgins, anything). The only difficult part is deciding what to do. The code is stupid easy.

And just in case you think I'm talking out my ass and making this up, it took me one evening to literally fix about 200 or so of these bugs in another game I was playing just last week.

https://f95zone.to/threads/daddys-g...dirty-secret-studio.5774/page-76#post-8421851

I have no clue why you think the scenes have to be so static and broken.
 

seronis

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Newbie here.
just want spoilers on what the rape tag is about. Is it one of those things most of us will pass as a grey area or is this a full on rape/ the mc raping someone?
One revenge scene where you are returning violence back on a character who deserves it that hits the gray area no matter what and has avoidable full-on penetration. The mood of the scene is at stockholm syndrome levels so its not "as disgustingly evil as it could be" but its not innocent or full consent.
 

OleJackRipper

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One revenge scene where you are returning violence back on a character who deserves it that hits the gray area no matter what and has avoidable full-on penetration. The mood of the scene is at stockholm syndrome levels so its not "as disgustingly evil as it could be" but its not innocent or full consent.
like uncontrollable lust where the mc can choose to rape the redhead who basically trafficked the sister of one of his new LIs?
 

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I accept that he doesn't fix the bug, no worries. He doesn't want to, fine by me. I was just surprised that someone would defend a minor mistake like this one
Nothing to do with defending more to with the fact people keep using the word "bug" when clearly it was intended by the dev to begin with, i also agree its a very easy fix (as i pointed out the file and the line to where one can simply edit it) now an actual bug like the "ste isn't define" in the science club i have fixed in the mod im working on. thats an acutal bug the dev didn't intent

I have no clue why you think the scenes have to be so static and broken.
i have no clue why you think, i think its hard or something? i literally pointed out the file and the line so you can edit it yourself, whats so hard about understanding just because you deem something a bug doesn't make it so, if the dev intented the scene to be exactly like that then it works exactly like the dev wants it to, meaning its not a bug you, i, hell everyone could disagree with it doesn't change the fact its the devs game if they want it that way its their choice not ours..

here ill make it even more easier for you not to deal with that scene

replace
Code:
mc 12 "{i}(Wow-wow. What do we have here...)"
mc 12 "{i}(I didn’t know my sis likes to watch porn. I wonder if she’s a virgin..."
with
Code:
mc 12 "{i}(Wow-wow. What do we have here...)"
if not rach_had_home_fsex:
    mc 12 "{i}(I didn’t know my sis likes to watch porn. I wonder if she’s a virgin..."

the fact its literally that easy and the scene has been in the game for 2 years now and the dev never bothered to add that one if not statement to any of the round of bug fix patches should be further proof its not a bug and it works as the dev intented
 
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Nemo56

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Nothing to do with defending more to with the fact people keep using the word "bug" when clearly it was intended by the dev to begin with
I don't know about the devs intentions (how comes you do?), I know about the outcome. But if you don't want to call it 'bug', you can also call it 'bad/faulty design' :)

Anyway, I'll leave it at that.
 

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I don't know about the devs intentions (how comes you do?), I know about the outcome. But if you don't want to call it 'bug', you can also call it 'bad/faulty design' :)

Anyway, I'll leave it at that.
well i don't know 100% but after going through the whole code of the game i find it very hard to believe he missed something that simple, its more reasonable to assume its just a placeholder scene that will be swapped later. like lots of the other similar scene have been. this isn't the first scene like this that got swap later on Lol but i won't expect anything to come of it until we finally get another Rachel update
 
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There is another scene where one character fucks the MC while he's sleeping. Many would consider that rape.
well he suggested it to that char.

also later mc fucks char which is sleeping/passed out.
 

Nemo56

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well i don't know 100% but after going through the whole code of the game i find it very hard to believe he missed something that simple, its more reasonable to assume its just a placeholder scene that will be swapped later. like lots of the other similar scene have been. this isn't the first scene like this that got swap later on Lol but i won't expect anything to come of it until we finally get another Rachel update
As a programmer I can say that it's the simplest things that I don't see :) I am too close and stuff like a missign translation text slips my mind easily. The comlpicated stuff ususally works just fine, because that's what I focus on. That's why people test the product and use my tools in a way I as the creator would not think of. And then a day before release my supervisor gives me a bunch of screenshots with stuff I need to fix in the UI like a button that's 2 pixels further right than the others or a tooltip not starting with a capital letter.

Rachel update ... it's a long time since I heared these two words in one sentence :) Let's keep our fingers crossed
 

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As a programmer I can say that it's the simplest things that I don't see :)
ya I'm the same way but im also going off the fact its been there for like over 2 years now, so i assume even if it was missed at first with the amount of bug fix patches we got something that simple would be redone a long time ago (if he wanted to) plus remember all the repeatable scenes for Ev are now legit like "side" quest now like the massage scene has several stages at his point of the "one" repeatable scene we had before, the MO of the dev seems pretty clear to me that if not all most repeatable scene well become "side quest" like Evs anime, the breakfast scenes etc, that only ones that have been touch have been Rachels so its easy for me to just assume whenever Rachel gets some love so will all her scenes


Rachel update ... it's a long time since I heared these two words in one sentence :) Let's keep our fingers crossed
Lol ya thats the problem with a game with so many characters, luckily i mostly like them all expect for Jen and kira i don;'t really care for those 2 Lol
 
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The repeatable events with Rachel and Evelyn at home are too outdated (they are almost 3 years old), so there are times when they have strange words and reactions for the current version.
(I'll try to add them for the writer to check after this update, they are not even in our google docs)
There's too much text in the game to check old content every update, we'd appreciate it if players would remind us of these things more often.

P.S. We changed the text in the scene with Rachel, with Grace when the player asks for help Jennifer at the art contest and added a condition if the MC already knows Oksana at the art contest (there will be a sex scene with her in the next version)
 

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how do u trigger this hint? it's not letting me do anything on weekends or is my game bugged? this happened in the PS route too
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Edit: fixed, the issue might've been caused by maim's old mod
 
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Edit: fixed, the issue might've been caused by maim's old mod
it would been if using mod UI computer wasn't part of the menu
but now it has been updated
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https://f95zone.to/threads/photo-hu...ovements-cheat-mod-v0-13-4-shawnchapp.123007/

Features:
  • This mod adds an in-game walkthrough for every character and story event in the game Photo Hunt! The walkthrough menu contains dynamic guides that let you track your progress for each character and see the requirements needed to trigger their scenes and advance their story. The mod guides also show all requirements for getting all possible extra dialogue options and seeing all possible extra content during events and scenes.
  • An optional cheat menu has also been added which has cheats that allow you to maximize all of your stats, unlock all of the scenes in the scene gallery, never fail school, and set your money to the max.

  • Lains Improvements:
    • Massively improving the dialogue UI by making the hud more minimal, making the textbox smaller, adding dialogue names for the characters, and hiding the main character's face portraits
    • Allowing you to give yourself all bonus traits at the start of the game
    • Improving Kira's 1st event, Skylar's dream event, and Triss's 1st event so you can always choose the special options during them since it was almost impossible to reach the requirements for the special options before the events triggered
    • Including the official incest patch in the mod
    • Including the 0.12.3 bug fix patch in the mod
  • Whats new:
    • Major change to Fiona's route, Instead of being called "Love" and "Submissive" its now called "Dominatrix" and "submissive" this change was made because Fiona doesn't have a "love" or "sub" route its either shes the Dom or you are both are the "love/romance" route so pick which on you prefer (it honestly doesn't matter what choice you make until her walkthrough step 12, if you want her to be the sub just make sure you have at least 5 "sub" points.
    • Fixed Skylars Science club scene (should no longer get an error)
    • NEW GUIDE, now there's a guide for the Breakfast scenes.
    • Mod option to give all bonus traits at the start also gives +stat increeases (all stats start at 10)
    • all routes have been updated (some had to be rewriten due to changes in the early game)
    • added more chat names for mod UI (not quite sure i like the colour i picked for cas tho Lol)


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Xrisoner

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Rachel... you basically rape her in the whore house in the corruption route or she sleep rapes you on the love route. in the whore house she really didnt want to but you paid for it your taking what you paid for. so have fun either raping your own sister or being raped by her....
MC getting "raped" is debatable.
 
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Nemo56

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Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous to call it rape after he's spent weeks grooming her. Believe it or not, context matters.
If you drug someone aftfer she flirted with you, the judge will see it differently.

The context actually does not matter when it comes to the definition. Sure, most of us are perfectly ok with the scene and also would consider themselves lucky to be in that situation, but from a legal point of view it's very clear what happened.
 

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If you drug someone aftfer she flirted with you, the judge will see it differently.

The context actually does not matter when it comes to the definition. Sure, most of us are perfectly ok with the scene and also would consider themselves lucky to be in that situation, but from a legal point of view it's very clear what happened.

Only if MC objects to that. Isn't that the actual definition of rape.... "Object".
 
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