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I can’t speak for all…
But from what I’ve read, most who are disagreeing with you understand what you’re saying.
We simply think your criticism is based on things that aren’t present in the story, or can be refuted with what’s presented in the story.
The “trust” path presented is Julia feeding Peter’s fantasy/jealous lust, but not crossing the line into reality. That doesn’t mean Julia is supposed to be a robot and not get aroused by the fantasy either, which is what the criticism of this story seems to expect of Julia.
And just as you say there are those NTR fans willing to blindly defend and deflect all critics, there’s the opposite end of the spectrum who look for any tiny detail to read into a situation to criticize a story for not going exactly how they expect…
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In the story?
Yes, it’s talked about in some of the paths taken.
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Nobody wants history to change, this is where we don't understand each other, and it's not just me, in the path taken by me, I made them all trustworthy, I can't compare the situation where Peter kisses Jasmine 2 times, I have two corruption points, and I find myself with Julia slut, which means Julia is not a robot, of course she is a beautiful girl she has her needs, but her boyfriend is 5 meters away from her, or she can't after 3 days already do things with Connell, secretly, then be a loving girl, I don't contest the betrayal path, it's right, but the loyalty and sharing, they show me a slutty Julia who does whatever the fuck she wants, you're right to defend it, I admire you, but you can't deny that the story and understandings make a hole, I'm wrong, if so, I apologize, but a bit of objectivity. Thank you
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There should be a path in which Julia cheat on Peter regardless of Peter disagreeing (suggestion : if corruption is high when Peter choose vanilla path at the hopistal). Next update ? Dimajio333
That happens on the cheating path. The next day, in dialogue between Julia and Cornell, it's established that Julia gave Cornell a hand job, but Cornell had put on a condom hoping for something more.
Ah, so you have 2 corruption points...
Julia can be more daring and teasing even with 2 corruption, depending on some other player choices that don't increase corruption, but lean more toward Peter being "curious". With higher corruption, she will push things more triggering a conversation with Peter about "permission", but Julia doesn't go completely over the line without "permission".
My "defense" is based on 0 corruption, no cheating with Jasmine, saying Pineapple every time it pops up, and telling Cornell the idea of "sharing" doesn't interest you.
On this path, Julia is far from being a slut.
She's a loyal girlfriend playing a teasing game with her boyfriend.
In the first conversation between Julia and Peter after the initial talk with Cornell, Peter admits to being excited/thrilled at the idea of "sharing" Julia, even though it's an act.
Julia then comments she's never seen Peter this "passionate". So, she knows this "fantasy" excites Peter's jealous lust.
They then agree to play the "game".
She's definitely aroused, enjoying the "game" teasing Peter, and getting excited herself by the additional attention.
But, Julia herself shuts Cornell down on several occasions, even with 2 corruption...
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She shuts down Cornell even when Peter isn't around... If you play the 0 corruption, the true "trust/faithful" route, you'll see it in the story.
Julia makes every attempt she can to get back to Peter whenever possible, but is consistently blocked/interrupted by Jasmine and Mama Johnson, both of whom get suspicious of Julia and Peter. That's what makes the "trip" day believable that she didn't cheat, like some claim or suspect...
Julia absolutely plays the "game" and role, but only to an extent.
She does not go over the line, shuts things down on her own, and does not tease as much like she does with any level of corruption.
The scene I posted where Julia shuts Cornell down is after some of the initial more teasing things, and Cornell's hand is a bit higher than Julia's knee, where Peter automatically intervenes at the drive-in later. Julia would have absolutely shut it down, but the story had Peter do it first...
I do criticize the "plot" in my review. But in context, each path is consistent and well scripted.
Are they all "perfect", no, but pretty damn close with no glaring holes given the context of the story established in the beginning. If Julia is a "slut", it's because of choices the reader has made, not issues with the story itself...
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WTF is with the one song playing on repeat throughout this game that feels so out of place & doesn't fit the vibe or content at all?
*Does a quick Shazam*. "Cuckold in E Minor, by Dick Little off his debut solo album Black Friend Bangs My Wife."
I take it all back.
*Does a quick Shazam*. "Cuckold in E Minor, by Dick Little off his debut solo album Black Friend Bangs My Wife."
I take it all back.
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I find some free time to unser to the rest of your comment :
"Why isn't she allowed to talk to her boyfriend about going to a birthday party? Especially if her boyfriend is going with her? "
For my point of view , they were separated for around 2 weeks, with few exceptions. If I were in their place, I would have taken a break. Julia tells Mc that she is invited to the party because otherwise Cornell won't go if she doesn't come. As long as Julia knew that Cornell's mother was leaving the next day and that all the theater would be over, she could very well refuse and make up for the time lost in these 2 weeks with MC, whom she claims to love.
" What kind of birthday parties do you go to? Mine are usually about gifts and cake, maybe some pizza and beer. Sex is almost never a part of it. Thinking that a birthday party has to be something sexual by default is just a very strange assumption. "
" She is turned on because she feels attractive by the men looking at her. Most birthday parties don't involve fucking and she had no control over Rufus grabbing her butt during a hug. And MC said it was cool if she kept hanging out because the party was still happening even if he needed to sit down for a bit due to his injury. "
My unser for this 2 coments you will find in atach
Ps: As a player, what can I understand from Julie's statement: " And would you let me go , knowing that anything could happent there ? "
What did Julia mean when she said "anything could happen"? That she will blow out the candles on the cake? To play fortball, chess or backgammon with Rufus and Cornell?
Mate, it's a porn game, it's normal for Julia to see how much Rufus wants her (5 minutes before , Rufus overwhelmed Julia with compliments, clearly declaring his intention with her) So that you want to fuck someone, you don't have to tell that person " i want to fuck you at my birthday party ", you just have to make that person understand what you want without telling that .
I believe that women have a choice when they are groped by foreign men:
1) To accept this
2) To act and slap Rufus or say something to him.
Instead, she was all wet and it seemed hilarious that Cornel was jealous.
Maybe I used harsh words when I said that Julia behaves like an ordinary whore or a prostitute, but usually these types of women behave like that.
"Because it would look suspicious for Julia to go wake up MC to tell him that she was going to work with her "boyfriend" (Cornell) in front of Cornell's mother."
Also, if you are really describing the "path of trust" (as you call it), then why would MC have any reason not to trust Julia? On this path she hasn't done anything wrong and probably didn't know that she wouldn't have a signal on her cell phone all day. She probably just figured she would try to sneak away to call or text later, when Cornell's mom wasn't standing there watching her, but then didn't have the opportunity.
I never once said that Julia should have gone to wake up MC, to tell him where she was going. a simple message was enough and common sense. From where to where does Julia have to hide from anyone (even if she is Cornell's mother or another person) to send a message on the phone? Is Julia in prison? Is she being followed at every step she takes by someone? If she was so interested in Mc, she would do it, no one could stop her. A person behaves like this when he is not very interested in the other person.
I call Path of truth , others call Vanilla path .
Generally speaking, though, I don't own my significant other. Even if they don't do exactly what I might prefer every time. That's just how having a healthy adult relationship works. At some point, you have to just simply believe that they're not fucking other people every time they leave your sight. If you can't handle this, don't be in a relationship."
In the last update, Julia kind of gave MC reasons to doubt. I explained it to you in yesterday's answer.
All love relationships are based on trust. But trust is built and won.
If you tell your lover where you are going for a whole day, it means that you care about him and that you are completely transparent with him and have nothing to hide. I think that if Mc is going somewhere for a whole day, he will let Julia know, because a healthy love relationship is based on this, on communication.
What do you mean, you mean open relationship, which does not apply in the present case.
When MC woke up and saw that Julia was gone, if he trusted Julia and Cornell, why did he start calling everyone in desperation to find out where Julia was? Mc feels insecure about Julia because of Cornell (knowing that he is a playboy and Julia is a weak person, who could be easily tricked, this is evident from what Mc saw on the camera installed at Cornell in the room, throughout the entire game) I think that if he didn't love Julia, Mc would have left her a long time ago (as happened on path of cheat)
What really got me thinking about this day is that the DEV , until this update, used the same events for all the paths. In this update, he used in 2 paths to go to Cornel's new place of work (I hope I am not mistaken), while in the other paths Cornell did not go to any place of work and rented a hotel room . How do we know, that after they were at work, Julia does not lie to Mc that she is going to eat at a restaurant, and in fact she goes with Cornell to a hotel like in the other paths!!
Especially since in the car scene from the movie, Cornell gropes Julia and she accepts, and when Mc intervenes, you can see on her face that she feels very guilty. , look in attach.
In conclusion, if she didn't do anything with Cornell that day, why did she accept to be groped by Cornel and especially, in front of MC?
I say once more, if we were on the path of shearing, cuckold, it was ok, but we are on the Path of trust / Vanilla path.
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You are reading into things that are not there.
Julia is teasing Peter with the party comment, and yes she admits she likes the attention, what woman wouldn't?
But Julia is telling him everything, she's not hiding anything...
With 0 or even 2 corruption, no cheating, telling Cornell not interested in "sharing"...
Julia shuts down Cornell when his hand gets too far...
With higher corruption, the "choice" option is triggered instead of automatic intervention.
At the drive-in, the story has MC shut it down automatically with Cornell's hand on her knee before Julia could.
You are reading too much into the facial expression. Besides, Julia's expression at the drive-in is not so different to when Julia shuts down Cornell on her own...
The text says she is flustered and blushes, just as she did previously before shutting Cornell down.
As far as how do you know they didn't do something...
The mother was with them. They would have had to drop her off when picking up Peter.
In the hotel scenes, they go in Cornell's car.
But with the mother...
The car is left and they use the rental to transport the 3 of them.
Earlier in the story, Jasmine and Mama Johnson were suspicious of Peter and Julia.
So, when Mama Johnson is with Cornell and Julia, would have been even more suspicious if Julia stopped to write a note, call, send a message to Peter with Mama Johnson so close, plus, there's the cell phone reception issues.
In the different paths, Jasmine is the "narrative" describing the situation as it exists to Peter.
"Trust/Faithful" - they're there with Mama Johnson.
"Cuckold/Sharing" - w/camera discovery, Jasmine says Julia and Cornell are likely messing with Peter for the whole camera thing. She would do the same under the circumstances. No drive-in, they go in Cornell's car.
"Cheating" - Jasmine tells Peter the same story as "Cuckold/Sharing", but you get nothing until they get back, no drive-in, then Peter sees the phone...
You don't "know" about the short time between diner, texts, and pick-up just like you don't "know" about all the other "dead" time when Peter isn't watching the video. The story does like it has done throughout, give you information that everything is "ok". Julia doesn't even "tease" him about anything, because at this point in the story, the "game" is effectively over.
If you can't accept that Julia did not cheat on the "office trip", despite all the story tells you, you may as well claim she's cheated every time Peter doesn't have an "eye" on her, because you don't really know...
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Thanks for your post, so I do not have to write a long one myself, presenting practically the same points!
But I have something to correct in your post. The "hotel fun" with Cornell and Julia happens only on the cheating and cuck paths!
(for different reasons: on cheat it is clear why, on cuck it is Julia giving Peter a radical teasing experience) On trust/faithful, sharing and Vanilla/Sharing there is no hotel break, they went to Cornell´s work, later ate something and returned.
In my honest opinion the sharing path actually negates Drakov´s theories even more than some others! On sharing, eps. with shared fantasies and very high CP, Julia got an unlimited hall pass for as long as they act for Cornell´s family. But even with this no limits Julia asks or waits on several occasions if the MC is ok with what will happen and acts only after it becomes clear that Peter is ok with it. There is no behind the back on the "hotwife" sharing path, Julia simply accompanies Cornell and his Mom to his new workplace, nothing else happens.
Even the birthday party invitation they talk through (and might or might not go there, this choice comes in 1.0) with Julia clearly hesitant, being two sorts of state. One part of her is happy theit acting will be over and they go back to their old lives, the other part is interested. Still nothing done without the two deciding together and that is on the high corruption sharing path, where Julia has all freedoms, but does never abuse the trust she is given.
It is not foolhardy to state that on the trust/faithful path nothing happens behind the scenes, given that even on high corruption sharing nothing happens behind the back of the MC. Even on cuck the MC is informed by Julia and given the video about what happened. ONLY on cheating there is something happening behind Peter´s back!
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Thanks, don't know why the MC didn't ask Julia the next day that he saw the condom and what the fuck she did. That what I have done that's for sure,... I would have said to her: bitch I seen that condom on the side of the bed, what you done with Cornell?.
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I put cuck/sharing for a reason and noted it’s when camera issue is brought up.Thanks for your post, so I do not have to write a long one myself, presenting practically the same points!
But I have something to correct in your post. The "hotel fun" with Cornell and Julia happens only on the cheating and cuck paths!
(for different reasons: on cheat it is clear why, on cuck it is Julia giving Peter a radical teasing experience) On trust/faithful, sharing and Vanilla/Sharing there is no hotel break, they went to Cornell´s work, later ate something and returned.
In my honest opinion the sharing path actually negates Drakov´s theories even more than some others! On sharing, eps. with shared fantasies and very high CP, Julia got an unlimited hall pass for as long as they act for Cornell´s family. But even with this no limits Julia asks or waits on several occasions if the MC is ok with what will happen and acts only after it becomes clear that Peter is ok with it. There is no behind the back on the "hotwife" sharing path, Julia simply accompanies Cornell and his Mom to his new workplace, nothing else happens.
Even the birthday party invitation they talk through (and might or might not go there, this choice comes in 1.0) with Julia clearly hesitant, being two sorts of state. One part of her is happy theit acting will be over and they go back to their old lives, the other part is interested. Still nothing done without the two deciding together and that is on the high corruption sharing path, where Julia has all freedoms, but does never abuse the trust she is given.
It is not foolhardy to state that on the trust/faithful path nothing happens behind the scenes, given that even on high corruption sharing nothing happens behind the back of the MC. Even on cuck the MC is informed by Julia and given the video about what happened. ONLY on cheating there is something happening behind Peter´s back!
It definitely gets confusing when we’re all using different descriptors for the various paths…lol
To me, there are two sharing path variations, the hotwife/sharing (trust) and cuck/sharing (camera issue).
Thanks for clarifying.
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Hello ,Thanks for your post, so I do not have to write a long one myself, presenting practically the same points!
But I have something to correct in your post. The "hotel fun" with Cornell and Julia happens only on the cheating and cuck paths!
(for different reasons: on cheat it is clear why, on cuck it is Julia giving Peter a radical teasing experience) On trust/faithful, sharing and Vanilla/Sharing there is no hotel break, they went to Cornell´s work, later ate something and returned.
In my honest opinion the sharing path actually negates Drakov´s theories even more than some others! On sharing, eps. with shared fantasies and very high CP, Julia got an unlimited hall pass for as long as they act for Cornell´s family. But even with this no limits Julia asks or waits on several occasions if the MC is ok with what will happen and acts only after it becomes clear that Peter is ok with it. There is no behind the back on the "hotwife" sharing path, Julia simply accompanies Cornell and his Mom to his new workplace, nothing else happens.
Even the birthday party invitation they talk through (and might or might not go there, this choice comes in 1.0) with Julia clearly hesitant, being two sorts of state. One part of her is happy theit acting will be over and they go back to their old lives, the other part is interested. Still nothing done without the two deciding together and that is on the high corruption sharing path, where Julia has all freedoms, but does never abuse the trust she is given.
It is not foolhardy to state that on the trust/faithful path nothing happens behind the scenes, given that even on high corruption sharing nothing happens behind the back of the MC. Even on cuck the MC is informed by Julia and given the video about what happened. ONLY on cheating there is something happening behind Peter´s back!
I told you in a previous post that was deleted by the F95 police. You have your values, I have mine!
It's very easy to understand: our values don't match and neither will they ever match.
So there is no point in spamming the forum.
Thanks for understanding!!
Hi again drakov !
I truly doubt our discussion if Julia abuses the trust given her or not is a value issue! I honestly believe you simply interpret too much into some events based on just one specific of the possible routes in the game.
As I mentioned in past posts there is only one route in the game where Julia really and thoroughly abuses the trust given her, that is the cheat route. On the cuck route there is a bit of trust abuse, but going by the fact that there is a decision where we can choose a hard ntr-ish or a tamer cuck path in the last update to come, this is a special case.
Even on the very high corruption sharing path variant, with Julia having an unlimited hall pass for the time they act for Cornell´s family and friends, she does not abuse the trust given her. She waits or asks for the ok from Peter several times even if she could do as she wanted, already having the hall pass. So even the "hotwife" version of Julia does not abuse the trust given her!
Why should now the Julia on the trust/faithful path, with low or no corruption, lots of "PE" calls, abuse the trust she has been given, esp. since the "wild Julia" version also does not abuse the trust given? There is no evidence, not even insinuation, that something like this happens all along the Vanilla/trust" path. There is no breach of trust.
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Funny we all know Cornell wants to fuck MCs GF. Trust, sharing or cheating it doesn't erase the one fact Cornell keeps up the his girl act even when mom and sis are not around. Dude I hope there is a route where MC says fuck it this is going too far and either leaves her or takes her out of the situation and they leave. Curious how long is this game going to be.
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There is no path that will lead to the departure of the two!!
The game should normally end at the next update.
But DEV has introduced a new port through which it can alow to extend the game. When Cornell's mother leaves, she insists that Cornell and Julia visit her home for a few days and even tells them that she will prepare a room on a separate floor especially for them and Jasmine, in her characteristic style she takes advantage of the situation and says it's a "wonderful idea".
We will see what will happen this month!!!
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Already wondering about the next update while the body of the lastest update is still warm?There is no path that will lead to the departure of the two!!
The game should normally end at the next update.
But DEV has introduced a new port through which it can alow to extend the game. When Cornell's mother leaves, she insists that Cornell and Julia visit her home for a few days and even tells them that she will prepare a room on a separate floor especially for them and Jasmine, in her characteristic style she takes advantage of the situation and says it's a "wonderful idea".
We will see what will happen this month!!!
I doubt that Dimajo extends PE beyond 1.0, in which most likely various path ends are played out plus a visit to Rufus birthday party, if decided to go there.There is no path that will lead to the departure of the two!!
The game should normally end at the next update.
But DEV has introduced a new port through which it can alow to extend the game. When Cornell's mother leaves, she insists that Cornell and Julia visit her home for a few days and even tells them that she will prepare a room on a separate floor especially for them and Jasmine, in her characteristic style she takes advantage of the situation and says it's a "wonderful idea".
We will see what will happen this month!!!
I think it more probable that the travel to Cornell´s Mom is "PE part 2", if he really does wnat to make a continuation.