VN Ren'Py Completed Pineapple Express [v1.0] [Dimajio333]

[redoubt27]

I'm not going to claim that Cornell is a good guy, but he always tries to be loyal to both, or at least one of them.

Cornell is a selfish, manipulative prick playing "loyal".
He's taking full advantage of the situation and pushing limits when and wherever he can to get what he really wants.
And that's his friend to give the go ahead or Julia to just lose control.
Either way, Cornell "wins".
The only reason he keeps backing off with "pineapple express" is because if he doesn't, he knows it could piss off his "friend" enough to rat Cornell out to his momma, pretty much like the MC partially ends up doing any way thanks to Jasmine...
If he was any kind of "friend", he'd have told his weird momma and sister to back-off and shut the hell up...
But then the "plot" would just fall apart...

This dev understands how NTR works and arguably does it better than anyone else.
This one is just a bit too "forced".
I think most are too high on their NTR "rush" to realize it.
Now, in terms of super charging that "rush", oh yeah, this one does it like "crack" or "meth"...

 

[billfk]

Cornell is a selfish, manipulative prick playing "loyal".
He's taking full advantage of the situation and pushing limits when and wherever he can to get what he really wants.
And that's his friend to give the go ahead or Julia to just lose control.
Either way, Cornell "wins".
The only reason he keeps backing off with "pineapple express" is because if he doesn't, he knows it could piss off his "friend" enough to rat Cornell out to his momma, pretty much like the MC partially ends up doing any way thanks to Jasmine...
If he was any kind of "friend", he'd have told his weird momma and sister to back-off and shut the hell up...
But then the "plot" would just fall apart...

This dev understands how NTR works and arguably does it better than anyone else.
This one is just a bit too "forced".
I think most are too high on their NTR "rush" to realize it.
Now, in terms of super charging that "rush", oh yeah, this one does it like "crack" or "meth"...

You misunderstand MC. He's not you. He's a cuckold from the start. Cornell's motivation is to fulfill MC and Julia's fantasies. That's what he does for other couples and them.

 

[robrize2169]

playing the faithful route shows the mc is not a cuck. he is helping a fake friend lie like an asshole and use his gf. mc trusts Julia but uses the spycam because he doesn't trust Fake Friend. he knows very well he is a player and although he trusts his gf, he doesn't trust mr bbc. and we all see even on that faithful path that fake friend can't wait to shove his bbc in Julia's face. he even sleeps nude so he can conveniently show her his dick. and although she doesn't respond to him the seed is planted for her to cheat. so i am up to the vacation part and so far Julia has rebuffed his subtle advances, but he still is trying to weasel his way into her pants. guess i will see if the ending scene is any different on this path once i get there.
all i have to say is i would kill Fake Friend on the cheating path. leave Julia on the streets where she belongs and ride off into the sunset with Jasmine.

 

[redoubt27]

Trust is believing, it's not spying. If you need to spy, the relationship is doomed. It's the same with any relationship, whether it's a family or a spouse. If it's between adults, trust should be the foundation of the relationships.

And MC was a cuckold from the beginning. Cornell was helping the couple through a difficult time, but MC's fantasy was a big part of why they accepted his request.

And if there's a villain in this game, it's Jamine, not Cornell. He's helping the couple make their fantasies come true.

Trust isn't a one-way street...
It requires the trusted party to behave in a manner worthy of trust.
That condition is under severe strain in this "story".

No, trust is not the foundation of a relationship.
It's the outer covering of a house, shingles on a roof, keeping "leaks" and outside intrusions from invading and damaging the "home".
When trust is "damaged", it has to be fixed, repaired, remedied.
In this "story", the camera is a fix, a patch on a leaky roof...

 

[redoubt27]

You misunderstand MC. He's not you. He's a cuckold from the start. Cornell's motivation is to fulfill MC and Julia's fantasies. That's what he does for other couples and them.

MC is not a cuckold from the start.
He's confused by the mix of jealousy and arousal, which are both very close neurochemically.
You, the reader, make the MC a cuck or not...

 

[robrize2169]

hm just finished the faithful path and still don't trust that there isn't something going on between Juila and Fake Friend. he keeps feeling her up even when fat bitch momma and Jas aren't around. and Julia seems to be enjoying getting felt up..and then as they leave, she looks back at Fake Friend a couple of times? yeh this faithful path isn't going to end well either methinks. well..on to the next game.

 

[duckydoodoo]

Imagine if your mother put spyware on your computer, installed a hidden cam in your room, and told your friends to report everything you do outside. You're 30 years old.

You don't own your spouse.

You missed the whole point of why his buddy offered the camera in the first place, to "prove" to MC he can be trusted alone in the bedroom with MC's lady Julia. The MC accepted because he didnt trust his sleazy best friend Cornell alone with his wife playing house. Seeing how every path Cornell tries to take advantage of the situation any chance he gets, MC was right. All your ravings are based on your assumption that he didnt trust Julia.

Or maybe MC is a voyeur

 

[billfk]

playing the faithful route shows the mc is not a cuck. he is helping a fake friend lie like an asshole and use his gf. mc trusts Julia but uses the spycam because he doesn't trust Fake Friend. he knows very well he is a player and although he trusts his gf, he doesn't trust mr bbc. and we all see even on that faithful path that fake friend can't wait to shove his bbc in Julia's face. he even sleeps nude so he can conveniently show her his dick. and although she doesn't respond to him the seed is planted for her to cheat. so i am up to the vacation part and so far Julia has rebuffed his subtle advances, but he still is trying to weasel his way into her pants. guess i will see if the ending scene is any different on this path once i get there.
all i have to say is i would kill Fake Friend on the cheating path. leave Julia on the streets where she belongs and ride off into the sunset with Jasmine.

If MC doesn't trust Cornell and needs to install a hidden cam, he's thinking of Julia as a person with no will or judgment of her own, which means he doesn't trust Julia either.

Please please read the conversation the couple has at home after they first meet Cornell. You'll realize that both Julia and MC want to enjoy the situation.

MC starts out as a cuckold. The player's choice is the level of corruption, not whether or not the MC is a cuckold, and Cornell is a cuckold helper. And don't forget that Cornell is also friends with Julia, and Julia has a will of her own.

 

[redoubt27]

hm just finished the faithful path and still don't trust that there isn't something going on between Juila and Fake Friend. he keeps feeling her up even when fat bitch momma and Jas aren't around. and Julia seems to be enjoying getting felt up..and then as they leave, she looks back at Fake Friend a couple of times? yeh this faithful path isn't going to end well either methinks. well..on to the next game.

Have hope.
This dev has handled "faithful" path well previously.
The way this story is constructed, you're supposed/forced to feel that angst and jealousy, even on the faithful route.
If not for previous titles by this def, yeah, I'd be worried, too.
Could still go side-ways, but there's precedent for hope, even if it's the option for the MC to just walk away...

 

[billfk]

You missed the whole point of why his buddy offered the camera in the first place, to "prove" to MC he can be trusted alone in the bedroom with MC's lady Julia. The MC accepted because he didnt trust his sleazy best friend Cornell alone with his wife playing house. Seeing how every path Cornell tries to take advantage of the situation any chance he gets, MC was right. All your ravings are based on your assumption that he didnt trust Julia.

Or maybe MC is a voyeur

If MC doesn't trust Cornell and needs to install a hidden cam, he's thinking of Julia as a person with no will or judgment of her own, which means he doesn't trust Julia either.

I agree MC is a voyeur, though.

 

[drakov]

I'm curious about one thing in this update: On the path of trust, Julia and Cornell actually went to his mother's company and didn't have a signal, or Cornell fuck Julia like in the other paths.
It seems to me that, it kind of sucks, including that on the same path Julia did not refuse and said that she is still thinking about going to Rufus's party with Cornell and even asks Mc what he thinks about it and that dubious things could happen at that party (that is, it is understood that there is a possibility that she will be fucked by Cornell and Rufus as well).
I understand from this update that, by way of trust, it is only from MC's side and not from Julia's, as she is tempted to have an affair with Cornel, otherwise she will actually have one when the two disappear for a whole day, without letting him know announce on MC.
In the scene in the car at the cinematograph, Cornell gropes Juliain front of Mc, without her saying anything, although she could say something to him, as long as neither Jasmine nor his mother were around (I think Cornell convinced Julia to fuck him on path of trust when the disappier all day and they hung up their phones ). I think we'll never know if Julia cheated or not, but I still think she cheated on Mc and on the path of trust.

 

[billfk]

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Part of the conversation the couple has at home after meeting Cornell. Then they had sex.

You be the judge.

 

[Ujjwalmouray]

This update is kind a disappointed

 

[redoubt27]

I'm curious about one thing in this update: On the path of trust, Julia and Cornell actually went to his mother's company and didn't have a signal, or Cornell fuck Julia like in the other paths. It seems to me that, it kind of sucks, including that on the same path Julia did not refuse and said that she is still thinking about going to Rufus's party with Cornell and even asks Mc what he thinks about it and that dubious things could happen at that party (that is, it is understood that there is a possibility that she will be fucked by Cornell and Rufus as well). I understand from this update that, by way of trust, it is only from MC's side and not from Julia's, as she is tempted to have an affair with Cornel, otherwise she will actually have one when the two disappear for a whole day, without letting him know announce on MC. In the scene in the car at the cinematograph, Cornell gropes Julia, without her saying anything (I think Cornell convinced Julia to fuck him on path of trust). Honestly, I don't like that it looks like love between two people, but rather: when we are together we love each other as much as we can, when we are not together we do what we each want..

Don't read too much into it or cross/mix-match story paths...
Both Julia and MC/Peter are "playing with/exploring" the fantasy on the "faithful" route.
Even on the corruption route, when the MC/Peter says "stop", Julia and/or Cornell stop, so far...lol

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Yes, Julia is feeling things, and that's where the "corruption" count comes into play.
But, she's also teasing MC/Peter to feed his jealous lust, which Julia then also benefits from.
I'm a big "faithful" route critic, and so far, no major complaints about Julia with 0 corruption or even double digits.
I do agree however that Cornell is pushing things too much on the so called good friend and faithful route, and MC rightfully does not fully trust him.
However, "head cannon" says maybe Julia has told Cornell a bit about the "game", or Cornell just "knows", and little things are done here and there to supercharge the jealous lust but MC/Peter still has the "out" in his control, for now.

The hand on the thigh thing at the drive-in, is a "choice/corruption" check...
"I don't know if he did it on purpose or intuitively, but I needed to intervene"
Unless corruption is up to a certain level, this intervention is automatic.
If the corruption is high enough, you'll get a choice to intervene or not.
Julia, like she has been all through the story, is a "pawn" and just playing along waiting on MC/Peter to say "yes or no".

If this dev does in this one like has been done with past stories, the MC/Peter will most definitely get a "choice" in regards to that party, even if that choice ends up being to dump Julia and walk away...

 

[Turret]

I'm curious about one thing in this update: On the path of trust, Julia and Cornell actually went to his mother's company and didn't have a signal, or Cornell fuck Julia like in the other paths.
It seems to me that, it kind of sucks, including that on the same path Julia did not refuse and said that she is still thinking about going to Rufus's party with Cornell and even asks Mc what he thinks about it and that dubious things could happen at that party (that is, it is understood that there is a possibility that she will be fucked by Cornell and Rufus as well).
I understand from this update that, by way of trust, it is only from MC's side and not from Julia's, as she is tempted to have an affair with Cornel, otherwise she will actually have one when the two disappear for a whole day, without letting him know announce on MC.
In the scene in the car at the cinematograph, Cornell gropes Juliain front of Mc, without her saying anything, although she could say something to him, as long as neither Jasmine nor his mother were around (I think Cornell convinced Julia to fuck him on path of trust when the disappier all day and they hung up their phones ). I think we'll never know if Julia cheated or not, but I still think she cheated on Mc and on the path of trust.

I think you cross too many story path here. For instance on sharing with high corruption and shared fantasies Julia tells the MC about Rufus invitation and it is clear they both think about going there, but they will talk later in version 1.0. Julia and MC clearly come across as experimenting together and they are still close.
I am rather sure in 1.0 we can decide to go to the birthday or stay at home and both will be happy with whatever they decide. On sharing there is a different vibe than on e.g. cuck.

 

[drakov]

Julia can tell Mc what Mc wants to hear, that doesn't mean she really loves MC

I consider the following: if your girlfriend is really faithful to you, she should have refused from the first proposal to go to Rufus's party without thinking twice. Let's not forget that Julia being Cornell's girlfriend is just a play and it's only during the time when Cornell's mother is visiting. Rufus' party is after Cornell's mother leaves. So honestly, Julia would like to fuck Cornell and not only him, because she got the taste for the stories about "cock size matters", etc.

You can tell me anything, I still believe that on the path of trust Julia, at least, sucked Cornell's dick or even had sex with him, while they were away that day.

The clearest proof, as I said earlier, is the scene in the car where the 3 (MC, Julia and Cornell) Julia chooses not to be affectionate with MC and to wait for MC to intervene, so that Cornell not a grope between her legs, Julia accepted this even if she no longer had any reason to play theater. On the path of trust, you don't have the option of corruption, Mc intervenes (picture attached) and if you look at Julia's face, she feels disappointed that Mc interrupted Cornel.

Because in conclusion I think that Julia cheated on MC with Cornel on the path of trust.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

I would have to disagree. People get so caught up on the "my bf/husband has no right to violate my privacy" nonsense. If the person I was with made any attempt to hide things from me, she'd be kicked to the curb in a heartbeat. There shouldn't be secrets between people in a relationship if at all possible and the ones that do get upset are usually the ones that know they'd get in trouble for their behavior if they were caught doing it.

It's ironic that you argue there shouldn't be any secrets between couples as you make an argument about MC being right for hidding the camera from his girl friend.

 

[redoubt27]

The whole situation for this game is kinda messed up from the start. allowing your partner to not only pretend to be someone else's girlfriend, but to be physically intimate with at least kissing and pretending to have sex is a major ask already. Julia is pretty unreasonably upset about find the camera too. I suspect that Cornell is painting MC as the primary villain as well as she's somehow not that upset at Cornell who came up with the idea in the first place. Even if he is being honest that it was his idea to begin with though, the way Julia blows up is really suspicious.

Oh, definitely messed up and on many levels...

I had not run into any "discovered camera paths", until I read your comment and went looking for them.
Guess I hid the camera perfectly on my previous run throughs...

Any way...

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[WhiteFireDaemon]

It's ironic that you argue there shouldn't be any secrets between couples as you make an argument about MC being right for hidding the camera from his girl friend.

To be clear, Cornell set the camera and MC simply moved it. I would say though that the right thing to do would've been to tell Julia about it, but the severity of her rage at finding it is extremely troubling. It's pretty messed up that she gets that upset at mc that quickly and doesn't take any accountability for the wrong she's done. Pretty sure they never talked about if the MC was allowed a pass before hand, Julia doesn't try to stop things in the beginning with the first kiss or when they suggest he should hook up with Jasmine, nor does she confront him about it right away when she has a problem with mc's actions and instead uses it as an excuse to cheat on him. Again, not saying mc is innocent but she's slinging a lot of blame for someone who's refusing to accept any accountability. But I guess that's where our temporary suspension of disbelieve comes in and we just laugh and say "it's just a game!"

 

[redoubt27]

To be clear, Cornell set the camera and MC simply moved it. I would say though that the right thing to do would've been to tell Julia about it, but the severity of her rage at finding it is extremely troubling. It's pretty messed up that she gets that upset at mc that quickly and doesn't take any accountability for the wrong she's done. Pretty sure they never talked about if the MC was allowed a pass before hand, Julia doesn't try to stop things in the beginning with the first kiss or when they suggest he should hook up with Jasmine, nor does she confront him about it right away when she has a problem with mc's actions and instead uses it as an excuse to cheat on him. Again, not saying mc is innocent but she's slinging a lot of blame for someone who's refusing to accept any accountability. But I guess that's where our temporary suspension of disbelieve comes in and we just laugh and say "it's just a game!"

So, you're saying the cheating path is messy? Shocker...