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jackdanniels

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"It seems the mother of my daughters has breast cancer."
This is serious shit, but this update 0.13 took a year and a half to come out and he had no personal issues... But now with this serious family trouble, yeah, we can forget about this game.
start a new game and use the cheating
I never was a fan of cheating, I almost fried my brain finishing the worst sandbox out there with the cheating mode available to download. I like to play the game as meant to be played, but interestingly, there is some unfinished work in this version.
 
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yes i think he should finish it but for free , i think
yea, but that wont happen. this is the problem with the patreon system. some developers are honest and deliver every month. some are milking their patreons. some are teasing their patreons with releases that comes right after turning into a new month, to keep them subscribing.
 

hawov18138

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I couldnt find any cheating options. Where do you find those?
speaking of v0.13f !!!
when you start a new game you are asked to customize character (yes/no to set body features)
then you are asked whether to start fresh or skip content => the later option allows to skip intro, 1 week, everything, custom.
each of those "skippable" options eventually ask you if you are a "decent human being" or a "filthy cheater" :unsure:
aaand ... if you choose to cheat you get the SHAME screen, but you can set specific values to the stats!

as the text states the "skip" feature was made mainly for returning players to spare them from replaying everything from scratch. if you just skip forward (w/o filthy cheating) you will get stats that correspond to some default replay sequence. either way try it, see what fits you best(y)
 
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Elkfood

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speaking of v0.13f !!!
when you start a new game you are asked to customize character (yes/no to set body features)
then you are asked whether to start fresh or skip content => the later option allows to skip intro, 1 week, everything, custom.
each of those "skippable" options eventually ask you if you are a "decent human being" or a "filthy cheater" :unsure:
aaand ... if you choose to cheat you get the SHAME screen, but you can set specific values to the stats!

as the text states the "skip" feature was made mainly for returning players to spare them from replaying everything from scratch. if you just skip forward (w/o filthy cheating) you will get stats that correspond to some default replay sequence. either way try it, see what fits you best(y)
Thanks, I never started a new game. I didnt want to go through that never-ending intro. Now I see that I made a mistake by not doing it. Thanks.
 

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This is serious shit, but this update 0.13 took a year and a half to come out and he had no personal issues... But now with this serious family trouble, yeah, we can forget about this game.

I never was a fan of cheating, I almost fried my brain finishing the worst sandbox out there with the cheating mode available to download. I like to play the game as meant to be played, but interestingly, there is some unfinished work in this version.
Huh I could've sworn you posted a list of similar games to this one a day or two ago, I was about to check it out but has it been deleted for some reason? :HideThePain:
 
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So, he starts by talking about how terrible his ex-wife was, how she kidnapped his child. He keeps delaying game updates for months, promising every day that he's working on it, repeating the same excuses with word salads. Then, by the end, he suddenly brings up his mental health… and now she has breast cancer?

Just like how Nomo had health issues. Just like how his grandpa died. Just like how Starke’s dad was in the hospital. Just like how every single hentai game dev always seems to have some severe health issue. Never mild, always something extreme.

So either making hentai games is a serious health hazard… or conjuring a serious illness it's the best way to get away with any kind of criticism.

Now, let’s talk numbers.

The lifetime risk of a woman developing breast cancer is about 1 in 8.

He’s probably in his 40s, so his ex-wife is likely in her late 30s or early 40s. The yearly risk of breast cancer for women aged 40-44 is about 1 in 69 (1.45%).

He said he had depression? For men, that’s about 1 in 10.

Child abduction by a parent happens in 0.1% to 0.5% of divorces. The chance of the mother being the abductor and also being abusive? Roughly 3 in 1000.

So, let’s do the math:

(1/69) \times (1/10) \times (3/1000) = 1/230,000

For comparison, the odds of being struck by lightning in your lifetime? 1 in 15,300.

Either he’s the unluckiest man on Earth…

Now for the ones that report this again. Those numbers are facts, based on epidemology which i studied back in Uni. If you get offended on science, and numbers, well...

Anyway my point is that, Abelius is clearly lying.
 

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So, he starts by talking about how terrible his ex-wife was, how she kidnapped his child. He keeps delaying game updates for months, promising every day that he's working on it, repeating the same excuses with word salads. Then, by the end, he suddenly brings up his mental health… and now she has breast cancer?

Just like how Nomo had health issues. Just like how his grandpa died. Just like how Starke’s dad was in the hospital. Just like how every single hentai game dev always seems to have some severe health issue. Never mild, always something extreme.

So either making hentai games is a serious health hazard… or conjuring a serious illness it's the best way to get away with any kind of criticism.

Now, let’s talk numbers.

The lifetime risk of a woman developing breast cancer is about 1 in 8.

He’s probably in his 40s, so his ex-wife is likely in her late 30s or early 40s. The yearly risk of breast cancer for women aged 40-44 is about 1 in 69 (1.45%).

He said he had depression? For men, that’s about 1 in 10.

Child abduction by a parent happens in 0.1% to 0.5% of divorces. The chance of the mother being the abductor and also being abusive? Roughly 3 in 1000.

So, let’s do the math:

(1/69) \times (1/10) \times (3/1000) = 1/230,000

For comparison, the odds of being struck by lightning in your lifetime? 1 in 15,300.

Either he’s the unluckiest man on Earth…

Now for the ones that report this again. Those numbers are facts, based on epidemology which i studied back in Uni. If you get offended on science, and numbers, well...

Anyway my point is that, Abelius is clearly lying.
I like that you pull no punches and I fully agree that especially with the number of extreme situations/issues that the chances of even one of them let alone all of them being true is none existent. This crap might stop if morons would stop blindly donating. Devs would then have to actually work for the money they receive instead of just getting it for NOTHING. I was ripped off several times by devs and now ONLY donate when an update that is worth a damn comes out.
 
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hawov18138

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So I finished the v0.13f
Here are some spoilers of what sexual content you can get from this update:
*:PogChamp:as I said it's a spoiler, so don't look if you don't want to see spoilers!
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--Please correct me if I miss something.

idk if what I am presenting hereby is content from previous updates.
what I claim is that this is the maximum reachable end content of v0.13f.
after having explored the game in multiple ways, incl. a bit of cheating, save editing, time forwarding ... and of course overriding the stats caps to 100 ... I can say you won't find anything better or further than that.
so before you get too enthusiastic about the spoilers have a look both at the stats and the day on the screenshots.
NOTE: all the images are intentionally downscaled for size.

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Well ... what i can say after all that - INDEED A VERY SLOW BURNER!!! after 14 bus scenes and numerous meetings with her landlord for over 80 days Jenny is only licked and fingered once or twice, her pussy ass and mouth are totally virgin yet, she mostly got groped rubbed and licked, did a few handjobs and got a few blasts on the ass and face. the whoooole game up to now deals ONLY with allowing touching and undressing.

As you can see by the screenshots, at least she can finally undress naked, and allows touches ... in most parts. But I guess this is as far as this game will ever get. Be warned not to expect more.

There was a joke I was told once, about an old perv who hits on a small girl by giving her candies to let him touch her, then grope her, then kiss her, etc, etc. Finally the girl snaps at him, "Cmon dude, by the time you decide to actually f*ck me I will be dying of diabetes!"
No offense, just sounds somehow similar :D

enjoy the shots! (y)
 
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jackdanniels

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You sure squeezed all the juice out of the lemon, and even so, is not that relevant aside from wearing any clothes or going naked anywhere and triggering some unfinished events. A serious dev should come up with a similar game with a real work schedule and updates, that's what we can wish for because I don't believe that Abelius will take a more serious approach to this game.
 

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Anyway my point is that, Abelius is clearly lying.
I mean I agree people should always be suspicious of those taking Patreon money, but also having a series of shitty events happen defying statistical probability does happen, at least judging by my own life. While stats are nice, if you're doing sleuthing it's better to look for inconsistencies in a story.

Like the creator of Waifu Academy said they crashed their car, posted a picture, and someone found out it was a picture found on google images.
 

jackdanniels

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I mean I agree people should always be suspicious of those taking Patreon money, but also having a series of shitty events happen defying statistical probability does happen, at least judging by my own life. While stats are nice, if you're doing sleuthing it's better to look for inconsistencies in a story.

Like the creator of Waifu Academy said they crashed their car, posted a picture, and someone found out it was a picture found on google images.
For sure, making a hell lot of drama for the patrons is to shadow bad intentions to keep the money flowing... If the dev is going through some hard times and can't work on its project, put the work on hold.
 

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I mean I agree people should always be suspicious of those taking Patreon money, but also having a series of shitty events happen defying statistical probability does happen, at least judging by my own life. While stats are nice, if you're doing sleuthing it's better to look for inconsistencies in a story.

Like the creator of Waifu Academy said they crashed their car, posted a picture, and someone found out it was a picture found on google images.
I agree. The biggest inconsistency is the fact that the update was supposed to be out nine months ago. Yet every month, there were constant promises and long-winded explanations about "refining" systems. Then, it would get postponed again because something "came up" or his favorite excuse, an "epiphany."

Another inconsistency was how, on his Patreon page description, Legend of Krystal was always "his baby." Yet, just a few paragraphs below, he admits that the game failed because it was never his to begin with.

There’s always an excuse for why bad things happen, why his projects fail, while the work itself remains unfinished and endlessly postponed.

Just like nearly every hentai game developer. I could even compile a full list of all his "updates," where each new one contradicts the last. But I have a life.

Events that defy probability happen, but not consistently to everyone who develops a game. We've seen this pattern repeat with nearly every major project.
 
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So, he starts by talking about how terrible his ex-wife was, how she kidnapped his child. He keeps delaying game updates for months, promising every day that he's working on it, repeating the same excuses with word salads. Then, by the end, he suddenly brings up his mental health… and now she has breast cancer?

Just like how Nomo had health issues. Just like how his grandpa died. Just like how Starke’s dad was in the hospital. Just like how every single hentai game dev always seems to have some severe health issue. Never mild, always something extreme.

So either making hentai games is a serious health hazard… or conjuring a serious illness it's the best way to get away with any kind of criticism.

Now, let’s talk numbers.

The lifetime risk of a woman developing breast cancer is about 1 in 8.

He’s probably in his 40s, so his ex-wife is likely in her late 30s or early 40s. The yearly risk of breast cancer for women aged 40-44 is about 1 in 69 (1.45%).

He said he had depression? For men, that’s about 1 in 10.

Child abduction by a parent happens in 0.1% to 0.5% of divorces. The chance of the mother being the abductor and also being abusive? Roughly 3 in 1000.

So, let’s do the math:

(1/69) \times (1/10) \times (3/1000) = 1/230,000

For comparison, the odds of being struck by lightning in your lifetime? 1 in 15,300.

Either he’s the unluckiest man on Earth…

Now for the ones that report this again. Those numbers are facts, based on epidemology which i studied back in Uni. If you get offended on science, and numbers, well...

Anyway my point is that, Abelius is clearly lying.
Sorry, but this is one of the dumbest but over-confident posts I've seen. You completely misunderstand how probabilities work. As DudePersonA said, events defying statistical probability happen all the time. Each of us has almost zero chance of ever winning a lottery, but lotteries are won by someone constantly, just about every week. Another example: when people are asked to write down a series of dice rolls that should be indistinguishable from real dice rolls, they can always be spotted by researchers as fake dice rolls because people don't put enough improbable streaks in. The individual chance of the same number coming up multiple times in a row in a dice roll is extremely low, but they happen way more frequently than the human mind thinks it would.

So you can't just multiply a bunch of probabilities together like that and conclude "this would almost never happen." Things that statistically "would almost never happen" are happening to random people around the world all the time, because there are 7 billion of us rolling the dice of fortune every moment of our lives.

I could do this same sort of analysis you've done here, stripping events from all context and calculating their raw probabilities for a random member of the population, for literally anyone's life to make it sound completely implausible.
"Oh, your dad died from a shark attack at the age of 35 when you were 7? Well the probability of being attacked by a shark for someone under 40 years old is this number, which is this much less probable than being killed in a car accident, so do you really expect me to believe this bullshit? :rolleyes:"
This sort of argument proves absolutely nothing.

And the cherry-on-top is that your citation for all these "scientific" "facts" and numbers is "epidemiology which I studied back in Uni". Like, what? That doesn't even make sense. Either you have an actual source of data for your numbers or you don't. "I studied this at school, trust me bro" is not a source...

Anyway, at the end of the day, could Abelius be lying about this? Sure, it's possible. But nothing in your post is proof of that in any way. Unless somebody has first-hand knowledge of his real-life situation, all people can do is just decide do they personally trust what he says or not. There is no way to prove he is lying with a bunch of numbers.
 

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Sorry, but this is one of the dumbest but over-confident posts I've seen. You completely misunderstand how probabilities work. As DudePersonA said, events defying statistical probability happen all the time. Each of us has almost zero chance of ever winning a lottery, but lotteries are won by someone constantly, just about every week. Another example: when people are asked to write down a series of dice rolls that should be indistinguishable from real dice rolls, they can always be spotted by researchers as fake dice rolls because people don't put enough improbable streaks in. The individual chance of the same number coming up multiple times in a row in a dice roll is extremely low, but they happen way more frequently than the human mind thinks it would.

So you can't just multiply a bunch of probabilities together like that and conclude "this would almost never happen." Things that statistically "would almost never happen" are happening to random people around the world all the time, because there are 7 billion of us rolling the dice of fortune every moment of our lives.

I could do this same sort of analysis you've done here, stripping events from all context and calculating their raw probabilities for a random member of the population, for literally anyone's life to make it sound completely implausible.

This sort of argument proves absolutely nothing.

And the cherry-on-top is that your citation for all these "scientific" "facts" and numbers is "epidemiology which I studied back in Uni". Like, what? That doesn't even make sense. Either you have an actual source of data for your numbers or you don't. "I studied this at school, trust me bro" is not a source...

Anyway, at the end of the day, could Abelius be lying about this? Sure, it's possible. But nothing in your post is proof of that in any way. Unless somebody has first-hand knowledge of his real-life situation, all people can do is just decide do they personally trust what he says or not. There is no way to prove he is lying with a bunch of numbers.
Winning the lottery is a rare event, but a single person winning the lottery five times in a row is astronomically rare. That's where epidemiology and statistics play a role. If you knew basic math, you wouldn’t be making that "argument."

Abelius constantly citing serious, low-probability personal tragedies as an excuse for delays follows the same principle. Someone might have cancer, someone else might be divorced, someone else might have depression, another maladaptive daydreaming. The probability of each single event happening in isolation is plausible, but when stacked together without a clear pattern, it becomes highly suspicious. And buddy, if you haven't seen all of the rollercoasters that have been going on in this thread, I don't know what to tell you.

You tried to generalize my argument, but you failed to account for conditional probability. Aka, the likelihood of multiple specific events occurring to the same person under suspicious circumstances.

> "Oh, your dad died from a shark attack at the age of 35 when you were 7? Well, the probability of being attacked by a shark for someone under 40 years old is this number, which is much less probable than being killed in a car accident, so do you really expect me to believe this bullshit?"

A shark attack is a random, external event with no direct incentive or motive.

In contrast, a game developer coming up with constant excuses to delay work is an intentional action with a clear pattern of behavior and motive: avoiding accountability.

A better analogy would be someone claiming to win the lottery five times in a row while refusing to provide the winning tickets. But you can't come up with a better analogy because you know...

Either you don't understand, or you’re purposefully ignoring that the discussion isn’t about isolated probability but about detecting patterns in behavior, which, everyone here detected

> "And the cherry-on-top is that your citation for all these 'scientific' 'facts' and numbers is 'epidemiology which I studied back in Uni.' Like, what? That doesn’t even make sense. Either you have an actual source of data for your numbers, or you don’t."

So, instead of addressing the numbers, you dismiss them by mocking the source?

Even if my original argument lacked a formal citation, that does not automatically invalidate the logic behind statistical analysis.

A better reply from you would have been to provide counter-evidence showing that such a series of events is more common than initially assumed. But you don't do this.

This is what pseudo-intellectualoids consider "a fallacy of argument from ignorance": I don’t see the data, so your argument must be wrong.

> "At the end of the day, could Abelius be lying about this? Sure, it’s possible. But nothing in your post is proof of that in any way."

If someone repeatedly claims highly improbable tragedies while delaying work, the burden of proof shifts to them to provide credibility. Usually, in legal and financial situations, those kinds of patterns of unlikely excuses (which, statistically, we say are suspicious) are grounds for investigation.

If someone calls in sick to work once, it’s normal. If someone calls in sick every week with different rare illnesses, and when they run out, comes up with more outlandish situations, well, buddy, that's suspicious.

You know, skepticism is justified when patterns defy normal statistical expectations. And this is the case.

You misunderstand probability, dismiss valid skepticism, and you can't even use basic logic to defend the guy.

Sources:

1. Risk of Breast Cancer in Women Aged 40–44:



2. Annual Rate of Major Depressive Episodes in Men:




3. Incidence of Parental Child Abduction by Mothers After Divorce:

 
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