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MissFortune

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oh shit its missfortune, if this is anything like the other games i played this is going to be some brainfuck.
Unless I'm being massively brainfucked myself or you come from the future, then I'm afraid you may have me mixed up for another game dev/etc. This is my first and only work, so far.

Hell dawg, this was really well written. This is going on my watchlist for sure
Thanks! That was definitely an emphasis when I started this, so it's nice to know it's coming out in the work itself. :)

What other games? I don't see any here or on their site.
He/She is mistaken, this is my only work. Though, I'm curious to see the work he may be referring to.

That game is sadly definitely not for me.
You had me hooked with bro/sis relationship and playing as a female character. But it is too dark for me. The rape scene, well just ..... no.
Yes, I read the disclamer, and I skiped that scene (so I don't know the extend of it), but I can't think I will be able to ignore that fact in the futur developpement of the game.
The writing is great, so I hope you will continue that project, even if I don't play it. Others may like it.
Maybe in the next project the female charactere will be able to offer her first time to her brother? (one can hope ^^ :p)
I understand, but at the same time, not everything is going to appeal to everyone. I, myself, am a fan of a lot of darker fetishes/kinks out there (only in the pornographic and/or fantasy sense, if we're referring to the more illegal stuff, of course.). It got fairly in-depth with said scene(s), and a point where they'll be optional branches to follow. Rape itself won't play a massive part later on (unless user walks character into the situation. Hint, hint. ;)), but there'll be coercion and blackmail, which can be construed as the same thing.

I know people hate it when rape is used as a plot device, but it effectively creates a drastic branching point for the character. I don't think my next project (which will be a ways away, for all intent and purposes) will be nearly as dark thematically, but will most definitely include incest. Thanks for giving it a try, and the kind words.

Whenever I choose to be the "hungover asshole", it goes to a black screen that you can't really do anything with. You can hit back and choose to be the beautiful girl, and that seems to work.
I completely whiffed on a couple parts of this release, so apologies for that (and a big thank you to the staff who added "Only female MC at present" on the OP.). There's already a tidbit in place for the next update. That being said, yeah, the Female MC is the only playable one at the moment.
 

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Okay, wow, that's a lot to get through lol. There's a lot of valid points in here, I'll try and get to all of them without spoiling too much of the story itself.
Puh I don`t know what to think about the game right now. I have no problem with the stuff that happens or the writing in general. In fact, I even think that the writing is very good. The stuff might not be for everyone but that is only normal. The thing I have a problem with is that my disbelief about the events started to grow with every page I read.

This is definitely more of a realism vs fantasy/fiction argument here. While the former remains true, there's a point where the latter will come into play. Though, with some of the later points you bring up, I may have to think about rewriting/adjusting some of the admittedly flimsy time/timelines. There's definitely some editing to be done and a lot to think about for the future of the story/path, especially after reading this.

I think the biggest problem I have with, at least the current path, is that I have to believe that a full week has passed. Which leads to the question why everyone is acting so stupid or unrealistic? For example:

- Her best girlfriend. I really think that she would hit the alarm bells way way way earlier. Like her best friend goes on a date with a new guy and is missing for a whole week? Police!!! This is even more stupid when she doesn`t even care that her friend calls her one week later after she went missing.

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- Her parents are supposed to be away for a week, I can only imagine that they would call from time to time, maybe even try to call her directly. It is hard to believe that they wouldn`t take notice of anything.

I'm going off personal experience with this one. Parents traveled a lot for work, usually to foreign businesses, and didn't call/text/email/etc. very often. There's obviously the lifestyle effect here, too. Upper class families and busy/latchkey households tend to lack closeness. Whether that is due to the parents parents, or another circumstance entirely changes per family.

- J is also a little bit strange, as once again as it is the same with Sam. He knows that his sister goes away on a date with a new guy and then is missing for a whole week? POLICE!

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- I also think that her thoughts after killing her rapists are just stupid. I don`t know if the city this takes place is a real place but I think that every country, except maybe Saudi Arabia would not imprison the girl after she got raped and defended herself in pure self-defense. So her thought process that she has to hide the body somehow is really strange to me, and put me out of the immersion. Like the thought of self-defense doesn`t even cross her mind at least once?

The logic here was thinking through the eyes of a young adult who just killed someone after a traumatic experience, but yes, it does slightly bend realism for the sake of the storyline. Player/Reader has time to think about it, sure, but the character doesn't. To dive further into the psychology of it, by calling the police, she would inherently have to reveal that she was raped to police and hypothetically, perhaps the media. Rape victims habitually don't want to tell anyone, and most never do. They view it as a stain on themselves that they'll never get off, then they're figuratively raped all over again by the court/law system as she relives the act(s) again while having her every word/action questioned. Would the writing in question need to go that far into it? Not at all, but a little fleshing out couldn't help either.

My advice would be to shorten the week down to maybe a day or two. And have the rapist take her phone and write SMS, WhatsApp or whatever to the persons close to her so that they don`t start to wonder where she is. As for why she is not calling the police I would suggest that she simply doesn`t think about them first, and instinctively calls her brother first. He can then "manipulate" her in thinking that she has to "sit still" and "not do anything else".

Both Sam and J are in the spoilers above, so no need to go over that again. I might change the Sam phone call part later on, I'm not quite sure yet.

Also I just read about her possible abortion and she thinks about how her parents would throw her out of the house if she decides to get the child? Wtf? What kind of parents would do that to their daughter? "Oh I see you got raped and decided to keep the child for whatever reason, I know exactly what my unstable daughter would need right now! A kick in her ass and onto the streets with her!" That sounds extremly strange and unrealistic to me.

Pregnant daughters being kicked out/sent to live with grandparents/etc are far from uncommon. I'm using the rape victim logic for the parents. If said victim isn't going to tell the police, then why tell the parents, who would just end up calling them regardless? That's not even mentioning religion or parenting styles. But even then, the fear of being treated differently by parents, close or not, is a strong one no matter what the cause is.

As to answer your question at the end of the game, I would stick with one protagonist only and try to complete his or her path first. The reason is that you will split your audience most likely anyway and for example I myself am only interested in playing as the girl, so I wouldn`t bother to check for an update every month as I would assume that the path I want to play will only get one or two scenes at max every update. So I would maybe check the game once every six months, and in return most likely not donate anything during these six months.

That definitely seems to be the way to go, for now at least. Most are seeming to lean this way.
Lastly, there's a lot here that you bring up that I do need to work on. I can see all the effort you put into writing this out, and I really appreciate taking the time to do it. :)
 

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I'm sorry, Louis? How could you misremember Lee's name like that... the only Louis I know of is a character from season 4. Also, why'd you have to go and bring up that scene? I remember not being able to stop silently crying for almost half an hour after that. I still get a little teary eyed just thinking about it.

If you liked Telltale's TWD, you really should play through the other three seasons. Some of the moments will be gut-wrenching, but goddamn if it isn't worth it.
My shame... :cry: ... In my defense though, Lee and Clementine have had a solid 8+ years to live in my totally-not-denying-reality save in that season lol
 

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I like your choice of imagery, but while the writing is good, you're a bit too wordy for my taste.
It might help if you increased the image density.
It would be great if this turned out to be more sandboxy than CYOA-y, but I understand that this is an exceptionall tall order.
 

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I was going to write a longer review here, but Socural managed to go over most of the same issues that I encountered, so I'll try to my own take.

Regarding gameplay:
Dead ends/unfinished routes need to be better flagged. Most notably, the lack of male MC route, leading to just a blank page, can make one think that the game file is broken.
There's at least one broken "Read More" tab, I can't remember if it was from a warning, Dev comment, or something similar.

Regarding story:
My main issue with the game isn't the unavoidable and very graphic depiction of rape, even though that's a huge red flag. It's not the over-reliance on "internal monologues" and "4th wall break!!" dev comments to smooth over the story either. It's that the game's story just breaks my suspension of disbelief.

Look, I can handle dark storylines. I can handle the protagonist living in a shitty world where everything is out to get them. Heck, I can accept her and her brother suddenly deciding to enter a sexual incestuous relationship. But not all of those happening in the same damn day, without any build-up, without any justification. If the world is really that bad that there are murderous rapists who will drug girls to sell them into prostitution then dump their bodies, why the fuck would the MC go out on a date with a guy she barely knows? Why the fuck did nobody look for her when she's been missing for a week, and missing classes, after she told EVERYONE, including her possessive and overprotective brother and her over-invested best friend that she was going on a date? Why the hell would MC be more worried about people thinking she's a murderer, and not the fact that she just nearly died? The entire opening sequence is just so absurd and unbelievable that I just could not connect to any of the characters.

The dev mentioned being inspired by Transfigure, and I can see the inspiration. However, the big difference between Transfigure and Playing Judas is that Transfigure manages to set up their story so you do end up accepting the fact that the protagonist turned into a girl with transformation powers and there's a conspiracy, and horny lesbians, an evil corporation, and all kinds of things out to get him/her. But most importantly, the crazy is carefully rationed out and built up in Transfigure, so by the time you run into rapist Mothman, you go "Of course she's unlucky enough to run into a rapist Mothman, LOL". Here, I kept getting whiplash at all the "twists" that kept happening to the protagonist in the INTRODUCTION.

The other issue I had is that the tone is uneven. I can't tell whether the story is supposed to be serious, funny, ironic, or what. The tone shifts too quickly, sometimes in the same scene. Again, leading to the whiplash issue I keep talking about. I don't have a problem with dark works, but this game just feels so absurdly grim I'm getting "My Immortal" by Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way vibes from it. I can't tell if the story is supposed to be funny, or if the joke is on me.
 

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Unless I'm being massively brainfucked myself or you come from the future, then I'm afraid you may have me mixed up for another game dev/etc. This is my first and only work, so far.
a number of parody games and generaly pretty dark shit involving rape and "misfortune". considering its the name of a videogame character... well, mistaken idendity i think.
 

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Since I am not a fan of Female Protag's, I am not going to play at this time. I will keep my eye on the game though, and I look forward to when the MC path is implemented.

I do enjoy the irony of the game being called "Playing Judas" when you cannot play Judas.
 
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First off, anyone who enjoys reading really dark romance novels similar to this one should look up Addison Cain. AFAIK she's only on the Amazon Kindle store, but yeah, she writes a mean dark romance. She dips into the whole Omegaverse(Alpha's/Omega's) stuff as well.

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Not to repeat myself, but I really enjoyed reading this. Good luck with the project and if you need auto insurance be sure to hit up Geico. You won't get any money back, but you'll be able to tell people you have insurance.
 
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I like your choice of imagery, but while the writing is good, you're a bit too wordy for my taste.
It might help if you increased the image density.
It would be great if this turned out to be more sandboxy than CYOA-y, but I understand that this is an exceptionall tall order.
Your first point would be the inherent problem of real porn games/CYOA's/etc. The eroticism of certain images vs the immersion of said writing. I see a lot of games use different models for the same character throughout, some are brunettes, some are blondes, and so forth. I realize that is just part of this process, but it loses that sense of immersiveness, which I'm trying to minimize as much as possible here.

The other part of this is that I'm pretty much learning as I'm going. Balancing the pacing, realism, and immersion without it being overly fantastical is trickier than I originally thought, and it's something I'm trying to fix before the next update. Then there are parts that won't appeal to everyone, like the pair of longer posts above your own. As far as being sandbox goes, I'm just simply not experienced enough with Twine and/or code to pull something like that off at this point. Maybe in the future.
 

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Holy crap, the CensorshipNerds infection is even worse than any corona virus.

To MissFortune: Just block out the noise. Keep the game as beautifully dark as it's meant to be.

I don't get how they can complain about realism, I mean if I went outside and bagged some chick and locked her up, NOONE would stop me, NOONE. THAT is as realistic as it gets. If I had a sister I could do WHATEVER I wanted, and NOONE could do anything against it, and THAT is as realistic as it gets. The authorities are busy 24/7 with quarantine, enforcing facemasks at supermarket entrances, preventing public gatherings, etc.
The one single thing that does in fact stop me is me not having a sister.


You have my thanks for giving me a What if I had a sister and could control her mind? - scenario.
Controlling her mind is way more fun, which is why I don't even care about controlling Judas'
 

MissFortune

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Holy crap, the CensorshipNerds infection is even worse than any corona virus.

To MissFortune: Just block out the noise. Keep the game as beautifully dark as it's meant to be.

I don't get how they can complain about realism, I mean if I went outside and bagged some chick and locked her up, NOONE would stop me, NOONE. THAT is as realistic as it gets. If I had a sister I could do WHATEVER I wanted, and NOONE could do anything against it, and THAT is as realistic as it gets. The authorities are busy 24/7 with quarantine, enforcing facemasks at supermarket entrances, preventing public gatherings, etc.
The one single thing that does in fact stop me is me not having a sister.


You have my thanks for giving me a What if I had a sister and could control her mind? - scenario.
Controlling her mind is way more fun, which is why I don't even care about controlling Judas'
The game will be staying dark, at least thematically, regardless of anyone's feelings on it. I'm trying to appeal to wide as possible crowd with this (hence the plans for varying paths that are lighter in theme.), but I know there's always going to be something that doesn't appeal to someone. Their points about realism were correct as they could be without knowing the full scope of the storyline itself, but fiction allows one to bend the rules some. I'm glad you enjoy. :)

Not gonna lie, I damn near spit up my coffee reading that last line. :LOL:

is the bestality in the game yet.
It isn't quite yet, but is definitely planned to come within the next few updates. Scrap that, half-asleep me wrote it. Will be coming soon, but by no means the next couple updates.

why do that pic look like real rape lmao
Are you asking why I used them, or why do they look real rape? Well, for the former, I felt like they added more than a random "rough sex" image. As for the latter, most of the rape scene images are from rape scenes in movies. One is from "I Spit on Your Grave" and I'm not sure about the other.
 
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The game will be staying dark, at least thematically, regardless of anyone's feelings on it. I'm trying to appeal to wide as possible crowd with this (hence the plans for varying paths that are lighter in theme.), but I know there's always going to be something that doesn't appeal to someone. Their points about realism were correct as they could be without knowing the full scope of the storyline itself, but fiction allows one to bend the rules some. I'm glad you enjoy. :)

Not gonna lie, I damn near spit up my coffee reading that last line. :LOL:



It isn't quite yet, but is definitely planned to come within the next few updates.



Are you asking why I used them, or why do they look real rape? Well, for the former, I felt like they added more than a random "rough sex" image. As for the latter, most of the rape scene images are from rape scenes in movies. One is from "I Spit on Your Grave" and I'm not sure about the other.
Ooooo i see i see, nice
 
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I'm surprised bestiality is planned not that i'm against it or anything but i'm curious what sort of content that would involve considering the tone of this game. Let me guess she gets raped by a pack of dogs after getting drunk in a bar, that would be quite something but a little far fetched. :unsure:
 

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I'm surprised bestiality is planned not that i'm against it or anything but i'm curious what sort of content that would involve considering the tone of this game. Let me guess she gets raped by a pack of dogs after getting drunk in a bar, that would be quite something but a little far fetched. :unsure:
Above was said when writing half-asleep after staying up all night. It is planned, just not as soon as I made it seem. Is it far-fetched? Maybe a bit. But fiction is, well, fiction. Reality can be bent some with it, just not so much that it belongs on an alien-infested space station in 2155. There are multiple ways the storyline could approach it with varying levels of realism. Blackmail, mind control, or even just a sheer willingness to try it.

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I see video folder is empty. I assume there currently are no actual videos?
 

MissFortune

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I see video folder is empty. I assume there currently are no actual videos?
Currently, yes. It's more of a "just in case I end up using a few"-type deal. GIF's and webp's are making up most of this right now.
 
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